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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:39 am 
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So does anyone believe this claim from Russ they are still putting in a million a season ?

Year on year we seem to be cutting the number of players, to the point where we now only have about 14 or 15, so how can they still be putting in the money they were 3 or 4 year ago ?

And if they are sticking in a million a year how do the fans run clubs in our division manage with no subsidy from an owner ? Its not like they could have any less players than us is it ?

The million a year was Howard's wages.

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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
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if they are putting in a million a year we are not complying with FFP.

So either they are lying about the million

or Hodcroft is lying about FFP.

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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
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So their still putting in a million a year, plus the saving from howards wages, plus the 600k we got from Hartley n Baldwin....

We should expect a decent summer of new signings then right?

or maybe we'll just pull out all the stops for monkhouse n Collins to stay another year.

and parade them from a bus around town.

The saviours.

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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
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they are "the masterstroke kids"

Its gonna be the new Game of Thrones.

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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:55 am 
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(1) the bloke is an employee of the club, he doesn't own it. He is therefore tied by any business restrictions and caveats that the chairman dictates.

(2) he is not a fat fool. He may not be a model but what difference does that make. With the daily challenges he faces he is a friggin miracle worker to keep the club operating at as minimal a loss as possible, to retain so many employees in the town, and to enable the club to have the size of the squad we have. He does not play on the pitch.

(3) the masterstroke for this season was the retention of Collins and Monkhouse. Ridiculed by countless at the start of the season. Monkhouse absence from the team shows you at time what is missed - missed first five games of six match losing run - says a lot. Collins - blokes a real pro shown by the fact he was hardly played and slots into back spot like and playing like he five year younger. Both players could have left in the summer. They never. Next year should see cooper build his own team.

(4) I spoke to him before, during and after the game. He was as nervous and as tense as the very wound up players before hand, confessed to having just two hours sleep. Other stuff spoke about makes you know he's committed. The range of emotions he showed through the game was the same as every other true pools fan. And after, well he was riding the crest of a wave like everyone else.

I am not his mate , I am not a club man ( yeah I write for the programme etc, but I am well and regularly edited) , not an arselicker - just giving the view as I see it with just spending some time with him. If you think it's hard being a poolie try walking a mile in his shoes. (Talking of which he's also doing 3 peaks challenge with cooper and co for his charity, 26 miles of walking)

Good job he is there if you ask me. There my be better people to do the job, but would they be as committed? Doubt it.



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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:01 am 
Chip Fireball wrote:
So does anyone believe this claim from Russ they are still putting in a million a season ?

Year on year we seem to be cutting the number of players, to the point where we now only have about 14 or 15, so how can they still be putting in the money they were 3 or 4 year ago ?

And if they are sticking in a million a year how do the fans run clubs in our division manage with no subsidy from an owner ? Its not like they could have any less players than us is it ?


As a shareholder I get copies of the accounts, even though AGM's have been stopped as a cost cutting exercise ( not good in my opinion). However these clearly indicate how much IOR pump in every year and the figures speak for themselves.

Whether they need to put more in, to pay for more/better players, facilities etc is a different matter.

I'm sure if you ask he would be able to tell you where the money goes.


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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
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Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:
if they are putting in a million a year we are not complying with FFP.

So either they are lying about the million

or Hodcroft is lying about FFP.


Why can't they be putting a £1Million in, and complying with FFP Correct me if I'm wrong but FFP only covers revenue the club brings in. Then a club can spend 60% of that on players wages etc.

It doesn't cover the office staff wages, it doesn't cover spending on the ground/pitch etc. Utility bills.Can they still not be subsidizing them ?

I wish it went on players wages etc alone. Now I may be wrong like I say but the million (if thats what is put in) wouldn't necessarily be available to spend under FFP. The two don't get put together. I'm sure those who know will put me right. But thats my way of seeing it.

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they dig the pitch up every year, that must cost a packet

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Yubep - am dismayed at your opinion re Collins and Monkhouse.

But I can't even be arsed to argue with you as I know I am right. ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
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do you mind if I pinch these fabulous words for my signature?

sychophantic arselicking filibustering wankers :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
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but why should Pools be different to any other aspect of my existence!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
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The only fools on here (fat or otherwise) are those who believe that Russ Green is anything less than 100% (albeit adopted) Poolie. He is certainly at least 50% more so than our less-than-glorious barcode-loving Chairman or the current first team manager/coach complete with his dubious tactics, substitutions and inspirational (sic) motivational skills - not to mention a penchant to defect to his beloved Borer given the mere whiff of an opportunity to do so.


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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:51 pm 
And then claim it was due to illness as to why he went away from Pools!!!! confised


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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:05 pm 
Chip Fireball wrote:
Interesting that Smokin Joe is now singing the praises of Russ Green and talking bout loyalty. Which Bunker member do you think said this a year ago ?

" I would certainly support a boycott but I had already had enough of IOR Hodcroft, Green anyway even before today's fiasco "

I will give you a clue he's a big fan of Sunderland, hates Newcastle and the Boro, and his user name rhymes with Stoking Moe.


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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
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Steve Gibson puts in £14 000 000 I into Boro .. Sort of puts our benefactors in perspective
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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
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Amazing that someone with a mental illness has a spare £14mill kicking around every year.

If you were gonna spend that much money you'd want a load of Fanny not a bunch of fannies.

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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
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Steve Gibson puts in £14 000 000 I into Boro .. Sort of puts our benefactors in perspective
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Contextual awareness is weak here...


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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:51 am 
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Chip Fireball wrote:
Seriously, Russ gave this magnificent powerpoint assisted speech. There were people down the front so excited I thought they were going to faint. The only thing I've seen comparable was pilgrims under the balcony at the Vatican.

Then this gadge from Robinsons got up and spoke well, and it all looked great till he said " And by the way, theres a £5 million pound hole in the finances we cant fill, so while the artists impressions look marvellous, nobody has the money to pay for it , right any questions ? "

Obviously at that point point there was one bleeding obvious question needed asking, but nobody could because the tickled belly elite took it in turns to stand up and make speeches for hours on end like they do in the Houses of Parliament when they want to stop a bill getting through.

One old gadge down the front spoke for about 25 minutes regarding the charity work Russ does. All very impressive I have to say. Someone on the panel even had the fucking gall to say at the end of it " Was that a question ? " to which the gadge replied " no, I just think IOR should get the ground. "

I dont mind Russ, he probably is an alright sort of bloke, and I appreciate to a certain extent his hands are tied by whoever is above him, but just once it would be nice to be treated like adults and told whats actually going on as opposed to what they would like you to think is going on.


Are we back to this hilarious opinion that fans have a divine right to all knowledge?

Get real.


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Here we go again idiots on fishing trips .. How do you not understand a statement of fact.. Mr Close..

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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
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Bearded Beast wrote:
Chip Fireball wrote:

Are we back to this hilarious opinion that fans have a divine right to all knowledge?

Get real.


Fans may not have a divine right to all knowledge, but they have every fucking right in the world to ask for it.

I live in a democracy, I can ask what the fuck I like.

By the way, its not hilarious. Its not even remotely funny. Doesnt even reach amusing. Not even a smile. :roll:

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PS we also have the right to know what the fook is going on if they expect US to give them OUR ground..

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and if they want our money. And they DO want our money.

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If the club expects people to turn up n pay then yes maybe they do ought to show fans a bit more respect.

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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
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Which team you support isnt really a choice is it. The clubs know this and exploit it.

then there are fans that buy into this process.

Of course, there are those that have said "no more", and have just stopped going regularly.

I am one of them, and I dont intend to change that, until I see changes at the club that stop the "jobs for the boys" mentality that has recently been allowed to surge.

I am not giving money to an employer that employs some of the people it does, and then those give jobs to other equally unqualified people. Cant do it. Sorry.

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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
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Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:
Which team you support isnt really a choice is it. The clubs know this and exploit it.

then there are fans that buy into this process.

Of course, there are those that have said "no more", and have just stopped going regularly.

I am one of them, and I dont intend to change that, until I see changes at the club that stop the "jobs for the boys" mentality that has recently been allowed to surge.

I am not giving money to an employer that employs some of the people it does, and then those give jobs to other equally unqualified people. Cant do it. Sorry.


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 Post subject: Re: Russ Green
PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:40 pm 
I don't get the jobs for the boys bit. It's not a piss take or owt but I don't get it. Help me out. sctatchinghead


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Totally agree with Dibble here, Russ is only passionate about Pools because of the fear of being relegated 2 seasons on the trot. I'm not buying into it. The man is full of hotair, I've had a business relationship with him since he took over from John Breward yes he maybe be the puppet for Hodcroft, but the man is spineless.

Regardless of who you support the way our chief exec handles himself by calling the NUFC " thick fucking Geordies " Sunderland " sad Mackem Bastards and Man Utd " Munichs " is shameful.

Sack every fucking member of the board and start again, I'm that sick of these clowns running our club


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Munichs really?

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"Which team you support isn't really a choice is it? The clubs know this and exploit it.

Then there are fans that buy into this process.

Of course, there are those (1500 or so) that have said "no more", and have just stopped going regularly.

I am one of them, and I don't intend to change that, until I see positive changes at the club"

^ This, I'm with Dibbs

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well it's come to something when even some died in the wool lifelong fans have stated the club are making the same mistakes over and over again

and there's a lot of truth in what a few people have said on here

ultimately Hodcroft and Green should be replaced by the Norwegian. Somebody else should be held given the roles - assuming of course they aren't acting on the orders of the Norwegian himself, in which case nothing will change until he fucks off

the thing is,we will never know one way or another

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Yubep wrote:
Munichs really?


Yes.

It's not even like he disguises it. You tell him you have a soft spot for Man Utd or anything to do with them and all he'll say to you is " you're never a Munich ". Typical Man City fan.


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We three are not renewing our season tickets. We have simply lost the will to make the journey. I suppose if we lived in the town it might be different but we don't go to away matches anymore either, even when they are nearby.
Wouldn't support any other league club but could get interested in local league stuff. I haven't seen a live game of footy, of any description, since last September.
Like most fans I have threatened "never again" but always turned up for more punishment. Been doing that for 62 years.
Sad really but there you are.

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Frank man that's terrible. I too support the team and I could only stay away if a situation like Gibson came up again. It's a proper shame.

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