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grabec · **Posted:** Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:05 pm

alleztfc wrote:

grabec wrote:

The whole country feels totally hopeless and grim these days. If you've got a job, it might go any minute and, for many people, their working wage isn't high enough to comfortable cover necessities never mind the odd pleasure.

Then, to cap it all, if you become unemployed, you have to attend regular meetings at your Job Centre to be humiliated by bonkers exercises which you have to take part in, to 'help' you find a job. Of course there are no jobs. If there were,you would just apply for one and get it without needing the bonkers exercises. God, I wouldn't like to be young these days.

And in two phrases, we have captured exactly what is wrong in this once-proud nation.
Real people with real families and real committments are being thrown to the dogs.

Recovery my ringpiece rakxe

It occurred to me to ask why it feels so much worse now than it did in previous slumps, and I think the reason is that now we feel we can't do anything about it.

Then we had Unions and a proper Labour party. I don't want to get into a debate about where the unions went wrong, just mentioning the fact that they were there, and working people thought they were represented. Now there seems no way out.

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

also now the haves have so much more and there are more of them.

And to be honest, they will try very very hard to keep it that way.

parmo · **Posted:** Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:14 pm

of course they will. I'm alright Jack, pull the ladder up

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

fook you big six I'd rather get my hands dirty with this lovely lump of metal.. And they said we'd seen the last of solid fuel jeating

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Spender · **Posted:** Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:21 pm

grabec wrote:

It occurred to me to ask why it feels so much worse now than it did in previous slumps, and I think the reason is that now we feel we can't do anything about it.

Then we had Unions and a proper Labour party. I don't want to get into a debate about where the unions went wrong, just mentioning the fact that they were there, and working people thought they were represented. Now there seems no way out.

Blair sold the Unions out. They ruined Kinnock so he had to. Now Labour and the Unions are fighting each other for seats, a la Falkirk.

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