Wish I was so confident about the finishing safe bit....this winless thing is going on far too long for me. We need three points on Saturday.

Agree.

we will not get out of the relegation scrap all season if we don't win on Saturday. Simple as

The current predicament isn't anywhere close to being all coopers fault but failure to win next week will put him under a lot of pressure..

I don't agree with sacking managers all the time but I just think we have the wrong person in charge at the moment. I agree with what has been said about us needing an experienced man in charge. Poor decisions at board level have seen us get rid of two better managers in Wadsworth and Hughes and now we have someone totally inexperienced in charge.

I just hope that Cooper can find something from somewhere because our football league status is on the line here.

We can't afford another start where we win 1 from 11 or whatever. This needs sorting now or he has to go. If he can get the best out of what he has we will finish outside the bottom 8 never mind 2. If he can't do this then he has to go.

On time scales I think we can afford to give CC another 5-7 games - if things do not improve significantly we need to get rid...

From the sublime to the ridiculous in the space of 4 days.

Why have you got your shirt on the wrong way round and why is it BLACK and white stripes?

I got talking to mark tinkler in the pearl bar after the game. He spoke very highly of cooper, said he worked with him at boro and is very clued up. Said we have to give him time and I agree with him. I blame cooper for yesterday but you can see what he's trying to do. If he adapts a more attacking game I believe he can be a success.

Hodcroft is at the heart of all our failures and he's the fucker who must go

Hello, I like the picture. I'm not sure why it's that colour but I wouldn't object to Hartlepool playing in black and white if it resulted in an improvement in results

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Cooper has zero managerial experience to get us out of the mess we're in.
I know its not his fault for the team he's got or the lack of players coming in. We're a league below and still the performances are the same as last season. We need a proven manager at this level. And yes, ken and his minions need a good seeing too also.[/quote]

I said this a couple of weeks ago. I sit near the dugout and all I see is Cooper with his arms folded and Hignett shouting at the lino every five minutes. NO motivation or barking out instructions. This is a job for an EXPERIENCED manager, not a manager trying to cut his teeth.[/quote]

Like wadsworth? Or Hughes?


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No, like Danny Wilson. He is still unemployed I believe.

No, like Danny Wilson. He is still unemployed I believe.[/quote]

We sacked him when we were mid table I believe. An odd decison by the muppet at the top. It all went wrong from there really (apart from letting scotty in charge)

Wilson wasn't sacked.

He left by mutual consent.

Also, never go back it doesn't work.

Anyone who thinks the solution to our problems is to sack ANOTHER manager after he's had a grand total of six league games to turn us around is plane pointing at, rusk munching, window licker in my humble opinion.

I wish Hughes were still here.

So we stick with an inexperienced manager just for the sake of not sacking another one? His tactics have not been brilliant.
How can you defend the completely idiotic decisions of playing with NO STRIKERS at the start of the season. Taking off both wide players and putting a big immobile lump up front who never shoots at goal.
I want cooper to do well, really I do. I hope I'm proved to be the wanker most of you think I am, but his decisions and tactics are not up to scratch.

He has had 6 games with a squad that isn't good enough.

How dense do you have to be to keep saying getting rid is the answer?

For 4 seasons we've been on a steady downward spiral, with far too much interference in playing matters/signings from the owner/chairman/chief exec, we now haven't a pot to piss in, a chairman who is a petulant child and our highest earners are the players most see as failures.

So run along, compile a list of experienced managers who are interested, available and present it to the club at a fans forum. Otherwise open your eyes and stop making yourself look thick.

In my opinion the squad is good enough, that was proven last Tuesday evening.

1 game doesn't prove that the squad is good enough hence why we failed to win the previous 6 games prior to Tuesday

No, the squad is good enough on a good day and has some good players in it. But the players and squad can't produce anything approaching consistency and our best 11 is still a mystery (and relies on loan players) therefore based on league position and last season the squad isn't good enough.

Is the squad really that bad? I don't think it is. I don't remember many people saying that we would go down again at the start of the season. Yes we need a striker and hopefully something will be sorted. How many players do people think we need to sign?

Good managers have been sacked or allowed to leave but that doesn't mean that the wrong manager should be given an extended run to stop the door from swinging. I think another 5-7 games is more than reasonable to give CC a chance to improve things.

Cooper needed a good start but he shot himself in the foot in the first game by making stupid selections. He will hopefully be able to turn things round but he needs to turn it round now ....

Just because my opinion is different to yours doesnt make me thick.
I know there isnt a queue of experienced available managers. I'm just saying why stick with someone who's not up to the job. Ok so maybe getting rid this early is a big mistake, I started this post after being pissed off with another defeat, but if it continues we'll be in the same position as when neale cooper left, too late to do anything about it. And this time it won't mean dropping back to where we've been most of our history, it'll mean non league football which is a bit more serious than dropping from league 1.
A relegated club cannot afford inexperience at the helm.

And before you ask me again to name a manager or make a list I DONT FUCKING KNOW!

Its not a simple situation we're in and I don't know how we'll get out of it, I'm just saying what I feel needs to be done. How its achieved I don't know.

I'm just responding to comments made, isnt that what normally happens on a forum?!
If you unsubscribe from the post and fuck off then I won't get on your nerves will I ???

I didn't say you were thick, I said you made yourself look thick. Which you seem to find so enjoyable you can't stop.

We also haven't been in a downward spiral for 4 seasons. Thats a very lazy analysis. Mick Wad had Pools finishing comfortably in league one not long ago... 2 and a bit years I think... Didn't we finish 13 th or 14 th ?

Mick was also sacked or left when we were comfortably in mid table about 21 months ago. That was possibly the start when we were struggling to score at home.

John Hughes had a similar squad going 7 games unbeaten earlier this year in league one. We also ended last season 4 games unbeaten in league one.

I think Cooper with the signings he has made has a bit to work with. He should and needs to be getting more from the team as we are playing poorer teams.

Whatever

It was a bit lazy, but we were about as entertaining as watching paint dry under Wadsworth.

MW got results in league one. We beat some quality teams under him like Brighton and Peterborough.

We all want to see good football but 25 minutes of decent football when we don't get a goal from it isn't going to keep us in the football league. At the moment I think all most of want is for results to improve quickly ......

The problems start from the top. There is no investment in the club and IOR n KH don't give a fcuk.They have taken sky out to save a few quid even though sky sponsor the league (albeit signer). They ran out of tea bags on Tuesday night in the executive boxes. If we can't afford tea bags how will blew fund a player. Is say players wages won't be paid soon then we will be royally fucked

I made my mind up about cooper before we played a game. Inexperienced.
Seems to be panning out the way I thought.

I know of no team in the history of football that sacks it's manager every six games and succeeds. I also have trouble remembering the last time we won 5-0.

I know I'm a 'happy clapper,' but a team that scores six times in two games surely isn't that bad.

Particularly when the six goals are scored by six different players.

Anyway Kretschmar was a right 'lovely lovely person' in Smileys People as well.

My new avatar is dedicated to this thread.

I made my mind up that him being inexperienced would be no good for us.
What's the point in being a twat about it and trying to be a smart arse you knew what I meant.

How many times do you have to say something before its true?

I have a big cock, I have a big cock, I have a big cock, I have a big cock, I have a big cock, ...,

I'm sat here crying from the name calling, its really getting to me. Other peoples opinions of me matter more than anything in the world....

Sack cooper all we like n give it to an experienced manager but hell still be stuck with the same failures n the outcome will still be the same.

The problems at this club are way higher up than cooper.

Well run club my arse.


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As previously said...I didnt think he was right from the start. I didnt give him 3 games and then changed my opinion of him.
Call me whatever you want its not going to change my opinion.

So you give him no chance before a ball was kicked?

Seems fair


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I think the abuse here is two way and not just coming from me.

I'm off anyway, I cant be doing with childish people who cant tollerate other people's thoughts for being vastly different to their own.

So nobody in the history of football has ever not liked a managerial appointment?

See ya.

So nobody in the history of football has ever not liked a managerial appointment?

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I've not said that. Who else do you think we should have got? I didn't hear many moan at the time n seemed pleased we'd went for a young coach from the area.

It doesn't matter whose manager anyway I think we'd still be in the same pos


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Your a bit dim aint you?

Ba bye


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The avatar is excellent and made me LOL

I find it interesting that Colin Cooper is classed as inexperienced.

True he's not had a mangers job but he's only ever been involved in football as a player he played at the top level for a long time, was capped by England and since he retired has never been out of work.

Yet some goon decides before he's even managed a game that he's too inexperienced to manage Pools

Don`t let the bastards get you down, you stick to your opinion, the sheep follow the sheep in front because they have small brains!

Doesn`t really make him an ideal candidate though does it, that analogy could be used for a lot of ex players, some just don`t make good managers, not saying he won`t though!

But he decided when he got the job!?

He's not even decided after six league games without a win.

That is unquestionably, beyond moronic especially when you consider what has happened at Pools in the last few years.

Richard and Lina Kretschmar sound like utter not nice people too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerhard_Kretschmar

Nah let him leave


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Clearly a bit subtle for its target though.

It's as moronic to keep a man in charge that isn't getting anywhere near the potential or results from the squad that he should be as it was to get shot of hughes / wadsworth.

Just because managers who were picking up points weren't given time it doesn't mean that one who isn't should be...

No one knows how good a coach cooper is as most of boro's success stories came before he was coaching.

Loads of players have played for England but it doesn't make them good managers... John Barnes, Stuart Pearce, Peter Shilton etc;

Hopefully things will improve and we will start to pick up points, if things don't pick up then there should be no pissing about....