The thing is though you cant have done too bad under Labour the last 10 years or so
Low interest rates. I guess your job is pretty secure.
Schooling has improved significantly, I guess you did attend school under a labour government and did pretty well

[ ] Derwent has ever been worth taking notice of even in his previous guises.

My job isn't secure, unless you count month to month as secure.

As for schooling, I know that I look young but I was just finishing Uni when the current bastads got into power and starting screwing everything around!

So how the feck can you give it all Charlie Big Bollox about how great it is with the Tories in power when you weren't even paying tax the last time they were in power?

So how the feck can you give it all Charlie Big Bollox about how great it is with the Tories in power when you weren't even paying tax the last time they were in power?

I thought that as well, but it is a waste of time. It's like taking sweets off a bairn.
He'll learn as he grows up.

(Go on, edit that one as well....)

Or are you incorrectly inferring that I edit people's posts?

Well, someone with moderating / admin powers appears to have altered the word filter. Looks like the word "cons- is- tent" now defaults to "silly boy".

I've never met you but people who know who you are have told me that you look like the type who tries to offer sweets to bairns and ask them if they'd like to see some non-existent puppies, although I'm not sure if that's true or not.

Your last sentence merely reinforces the opinion that you're a patronising old half wit with too much free time on his hands.

Don't bother trotting out your usual retort regarding insults until you've re-read your own posts, as to stoop to your level, you started it.

so derwent was right.

Are you being homophobic?

Not really bothered about all this but found this about economy:

"The OECD is predicting it will expand at an annual rate of 3.1%, in line with the government's own Budget forecast.

Such a rate would put the UK ahead of the US, Japan, Germany, France and Italy - but not Canada, the G7's most raw material-rich country."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8606499.stm

so derwent was right.

All I want to see is criminals punished, jobs protected, interest rates kept low, pubs shutting at 2pm like they used to, smoking allowed back in pubs and workshy bounders having their dole cut.

.Their record on jobs is far better than any Tory government in my lifetime....

I have to say i dont mind who works in this country as long as they work irrespective of their nationality. If you lived in a god-forsaken hell hole and could do the job you had trained for in another country for double the amount you would to support your family.

I mean how many people winge about ex pats going abroad to work in Spain, Australia or America.

Does anybody think that the unemployment figures published by this Government are comparable like for like with those in the 1980s when everybody not working was included- the figures that some of you are harking back to and saying haven't been repeated under this Government? If you include everybody whose been moved onto incapacity or other similar benefits in today's figures there's no difference in the total. Spin eh, don't you just love it.

I hate to keep correcting you Mr Ripper, but it was the Tories who started moving people onto incapacity benefit to reduce the unemployment figures. They were also the instigators of spin through the likes of Saatchi and Saatchi. Mrs Thatcher's press secretary Bernard Whatshisface was a master of spin. Labour copied the idea. Spin is the weapon of two faced people, which is why it is much loved by politicians. The big problem is that the buggers ( politicians ) are getting better at it. To get rid of spin would mean getting rid of politicians and that ain't gonna happen.
Since the war unemployment, regardless of what parameters were or are used, has traditionally been higher under the Tories than Labour. You can research the figures if you can be arsed.
It was a tool used to combat Union strength and curb spiralling wage demands. Both parties have dabbled in price/wage freezes until that method became unfashionable.

spender the invasion of iraq was a national disgrace.

at the time the only main party that opposed it was the lib-dems. i voted for them accordingly.

did you ?

Just for the record, because the two joined at the hip i.e. Spender and Ripper

How utterly ridiculous, he's a Tory and I'm a Commie!!!

Superb demonstration of your understanding of politics there.

Let's have a mass debate!!

'So Mr Derwent, when did you decide to completely ignore political history and factuality in the first instance...... '

Wait, wait, he's going to call me a traitor......

I didn't say who started moving them, I simply stated that if you compared the figures of people not working in the two periods which are being mentioned then there's nowt in it.

Spin comes from all sides, the trick is seeing through it to the facts and you seem to conveniently believe whatever the red half come out with.

For the record I'm not a big fan of Cameron, nor am I or would I ever be affiliated to any political party. It's just that I think that the current rabble are making such a mess of things and have become so complacent and arrogant that they need to be ousted for the good of the country. The same could be said of 1997 when the Tories had been in power for too long.

Diatribe??

It just gets better. Politically, how do you define Mr Ripper??

Politically how do you define me??

Politically, how can a Commie and a Tory be joined at the hip?? Dawn French's hips maybe??

'Straps in....'

as far as crime goes i can only speak for my area.

when i move here about 9 years ago my estate was like beiruit. there were burgalries pretty much daily ( they would kick your door in and take your stuff in broad daylight ) cars being set of fire weekly, and people openly dealing drugs.

the houses were falling apart and nobody wanted to live here.

since then we have had new doors, double glazing, full central heating installed, complete rewiring, fitted kitchens and bathrooms put in etc.

you would think that would generate more crime, but the opposite is true. i havent been burgled for 7 year and i dont know anyone who has.

first 2 year i was here i never seen a copper, now they are everywhere, admittedly most of em are them plastic ones.

And this is the Labour government which set up the decent standards programmes so that all councils and arms length organisations could provide a better standard of living for those living in council properties.

They also allowed authorities to set up stock transfer programmes in order for companies such as Housing Hartlepool to form their own company and invest millions of pounds into council properties.

As chip has said, the improvement to council housing in Hartlepool has been fantastic.
The tories having their way would have sold off most of the council properties by now for pennies which would have created streets full of dodgy private landlords and crime totally out of control.

Where did I say that you and Mr Ripper have the same political views???????
I said you are joined at the hip. The reason being that you continually back each other up.
Of course you are a Commie. Anybody living in china has got to say that, have they not?????????????
Were not Joe Stalin ( commie ) and Winston Churchill ( Tory) big allies, partners, joined at the hip etc etc.
You see your understanding of political history isn't as good either.
It is possible that commies and tories can be allies.
Try again my friend.
You haven't called me superwatty yet...................congrats for that.

haway muttley you sound like summat off the bnp website.

there was a documentary on the telly a couple of month back where they went to an area of high unemployment and sacked off all the imported labour and gave the jobs to doleite brits. HALF of them rang in sick on their first day !!! and apart from a chippy and his mate, the rest either sat around moaning all day and causing chew, or walked out.

ive just come in from work tonight and theres lasses at half four walking about in their pyjamas carrying bairns. they get knocked up by some lad as soon as they are 15/16/17 so they can get a council house and all the benefits going.

new labour brought in sure start and working taxcredits but the bone idle fookers dont want to know.

theres parts of this town when on any summers afternoon you can go and see 2 generations of the doleite white british population sat on the doorsetps drinking cans and smoking tabs. the young lasses are all knocked up, and the young lads are all doing petty crimes. none of them wants a job, a hard days work would kill em. you offer them a job doing basic manual work for the minimum wage and they will laugh in your face. ask them about benefits tho and they know the system inside out.

That was just a Tongue in cheek reference to the fact that the nightlife in the town has disappeared since pubs were given permission to open all night.
In my day all were shut by 2!!!

Have our "twins " given up or are they sleeping on it.
This board needs to rid itself of people like this who, when they are challenged, have no answer than to insult or attempt to ridicule fellow Poolies.
The daft thing is that Spender and Mr Ripper are moderators.
The bullying that has been prevailent on this board is now over.
Sensible debate and respect will rule.