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 Post subject: Re: Alexander McQueen
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:19 pm 
I've got nothing at all against Queers....but in my eyes it is not normal....sorry!!!! confised

BTW....I've got a cousin who's Queer and he's far from normal....but a great bloke!!!! :laugh: :grin:

BBTW....a little difference but along the same lines....Who on here thinks Lawrence is 'Normal'????
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Is Lawrence a Homosexual :shock: :shock: :shock:

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its not the language that is used, it is the intent behind it.


What is it with you people wanting to defend the rights of gays with you all claiming to be mind readers? First Compo, now you. sctatchinghead :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Alexander McQueen
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:24 pm 
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Is Lawrence a Homosexual :shock: :shock: :shock:


Hence I put the question like this....

"BBTW....a little difference but along the same lines...."

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 Post subject: Re: Alexander McQueen
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:30 pm 
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kev, you make a very good point, and i fully agree with your sentiment.

the problem with the very first post by ripper is that there was no humour in it whatsoever. theres a world of difference between jokingly calling one of your gay mates " a big puff or a fairy " to his face as a term of endearment, and calling gay people genericaly in a hate filled outpouring " gat bastards, not normal, bummers, etc "

its not the language that is used, it is the intent behind it.


If it was hate filled yes, but knowing the chap as I do, he takes life and the people in it as seriously as I do, and I know he wouldn't waste his time hating people that he doesn't know. He's too busy enjoying his life. :wink:


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its not the language that is used, it is the intent behind it.


What is it with you people wanting to defend the rights of gays with you all claiming to be mind readers? First Compo, now you. sctatchinghead :roll:


Well, OK, you keep saying what wasn't the intent behind it, so what was the intent behind it? Why mention homosexuality in a post about celebrity news? It's incomprehensible to lots of us, that's why we're trying to read your mind


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I fail to see how an internal attraction someone has can be deemed un-natural.

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Anti-homosexual and now he's brought the Bible up as an instruction book for life.

On Sundays you will find Mr Ripper at Westboro Baptist Church.

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Anti-homosexual and now he's brought the Bible up as an instruction book for life.

On Sundays you will find Mr Ripper at Westboro Baptist Church.


Is there a bar and a big screen in there?? Or maybe strippers on a Sunday??

Male or female strippers of course, it matters not.... bbolt


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I'd rather read the Guardian, written by recognised people, yesterday, in the light of a great deal or social and technological advancement.

Than the bible, written by god-knows-who, thousands of years ago, in the days when no-one knew f***-all about anything


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its not the language that is used, it is the intent behind it.


What is it with you people wanting to defend the rights of gays with you all claiming to be mind readers? First Compo, now you. sctatchinghead :roll:


Well, OK, you keep saying what wasn't the intent behind it, so what was the intent behind it? Why mention homosexuality in a post about celebrity news? It's incomprehensible to lots of us, that's why we're trying to read your mind


As I've said in another post elsewhere, it was relevant to the topic in that the media seem to revel in promoting homsexuality as normal and bumping gays up to the top of the news schedule, appearing at times to even celebrate the fact that whoever is a gay.

In fact it is generally the media who advertise the sexuality of the "celebrity" that they're covering which makes the posts outraged about bringing the guy's sexuality into the discussion even more difficult to fathom unless those people were merely looking to appear outraged at the mere thought that not everybody thinks being gay is normal.

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There's something weird about defending your right to make jokes about groups you say you wouldn't have dreamed of making jokes about, but for the 'PC Brigade'. confised

I've long said that one of the worst things the PC movement has done (indirectly) is create an excuse for people to spout the kind of outdated dull-witted cak such as the post that started this whole argument. Such outbursts can then be defended as being "anti-PC", whereas in the old days we'd have just called it what it is: bigoted shite. confised


In full agreement. With human rights comes human responsibilities - the later rather gets forgotten.

I'm still at a loss to understand how the BBC 'promoted' gay rights by having the suicide of a fashion designer as it's lead story. Fashion is a huge industry and helps the UK economy, and when a big name in that industry commits suicide - of course it's news.

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 Post subject: Re: Alexander McQueen
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:13 pm 
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As I've said in another post elsewhere, it was relevant to the topic in that the media seem to revel in promoting homsexuality as normal and bumping gays up to the top of the news schedule, appearing at times to even celebrate the fact that whoever is a gay.

In fact it is generally the media who advertise the sexuality of the "celebrity" that they're covering


Well, I'll take your word for it that that is what the media do, in the papers you read. The ones I read are generally well-balanced, and somehow get by without relying at all on news about homosexuality.

And as I've said in another post what I resent is the way in which civilised posters have departed because (if I may be permitted to mind-read) they've been bored silly by posters who constantly spout the views of....the Daily Mail, was it?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:15 pm 
Dibble, I'm not sure so many people were offended as were bored silly.. Of course, many were both


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we all like a laugh but there was no humour intended tho was there - he was being subjective and childish, he needs to live and let live and as for trying to tell people the bible is real, well that's the tiniest last morsel of respect out of the window. FFS - the bible.....sigh

mad john summed full palaver up in two words - bigoted shite

just should have been a blank thread re that as title and nowt else posted for five days or so.

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And to be honest I am more offended by Ripper mentioning that godawful novel.....the Bible. :roll:


Concurring wholeheartedly.


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I can't be arsed to trawl through all this fu-cking lot - I have no idea who said what and I don't even care!!!!!

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I can't be arsed to trawl through all this fu-cking lot - I have no idea who said what and I don't even care!!!!!


I'll tell you then seen as I've read it all....

They were all calling you a fat puff Mr.Parmo!!!! sadx sadx

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we all like a laugh but there was no humour intended tho was there - he was being subjective and childish, he needs to live and let live and as for trying to tell people the bible is real, well that's the tiniest last morsel of respect out of the window. FFS - the bible.....sigh


You see I could be offended by that if I wanted to get on my high horse about what you should and shouldn't say. You may not believe in religion but some people do, yet it seems on here that a lot of people are happy to ridicule religion and religious beliefs but woe betide anybody who dares to think that homosexuality isn't normal. :roll:

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I fail to see how an internal attraction someone has can be deemed un-natural.

pedophiles have an attraction towards kids.... Are you saying thats not unnatural? :wink:

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I fail to see how an internal attraction someone has can be deemed un-natural.

pedophiles have an attraction towards kids.... Are you saying thats not unnatural? :wink:


would you choose to be a paedo though?

if it's something that just happens, then it's natural. it's what god intended. people have been messing about with kids since before recorded history, sometimes it was socially acceptable, other times it wasn't.


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I fail to see how an internal attraction someone has can be deemed un-natural.

pedophiles have an attraction towards kids.... Are you saying thats not unnatural? :wink:


would you choose to be a paedo though?

if it's something that just happens, then it's natural. it's what god intended. people have been messing about with kids since before recorded history, sometimes it was socially acceptable, other times it wasn't.
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but try telling that to the Daily Mail!!


Try telling what to The Daily Mail?

That kiddy diddling should be acceptable behaviour? sctatchinghead

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Well it might be a controversial view but I think the current attitude towards paedophilia, as peddled by the Daily Mail, is one which drives paedos underground and ultimately makes the world more dangerous for kids.

There should be a paedo amnesty so more of them could come forward and be cured.


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wouldnt have thought you could cure paedophilia like. sctatchinghead sctatchinghead


didnt louis theroux do a documentary on this were they have volentary castration or take medication to prevent their feelings.

Also i dont know were i read this but a bloke who started getting these urges in later life and ended up abusing kids got convicted and was found to have a brain tumour placing pressure on the frontal lobe of his brain (i think part deals with primative behaviour) when this was treated his urges stopped. Towards the end of his sentance he reported to the prison manager that he was feeling them again, when check the tumour had returned.

Now this is no excuse for shocking crime and in my opinion all paedophiles should be castrated but it makes you think.

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I can't be arsed to trawl through all this fu-cking lot - I have no idea who said what and I don't even care!!!!!


I'll tell you then seen as I've read it all....

They were all calling you a fat puff Mr.Parmo!!!! sadx sadx

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I can't be arsed to trawl through all this fu-cking lot - I have no idea who said what and I don't even care!!!!!


I'll tell you then seen as I've read it all....

They were all calling you a fat puff Mr.Parmo!!!! sadx sadx

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couldn't care less!!!!


Arnt fat puffs called Bear's

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think theres a difference between severe mental illnesses and homosexuality like.

theres a fair few psychopaths in broadmoor and other such institutons who can never be released as they are a danger to other members of society. they have incurable conditions.

clearly when someone wants to rape 3 and 4 year old bairns there is something seriously wrong upstairs.


I want to rape supermodels but I've got the decency to know it'll be frowned upon and unpleasant for the victim, so I don't do it.

Who's to say there aren't many paedophiles who are in the same position? i.e. fancy kids, but know it's wrong to do anything about it, and never would?

I reckon a fair proportion of paedophiles must be in that boat. They should be applauded for their self-control in such harsh circumstances.
Yet still, if you say "i'm a paedophile" at a dinner party, you'll end up hung from the nearest lamp post.
More openess would allow proper treatment, therapy, whatever, for those that genuinely are a danger to kids.

what I am saying is that a paedophile is natural (if unpalatable), and is not the same thing as a child abuser.


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ooooooooooooooooookkkkkkkkkkkk.... This debate just went to a whole new level.


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we all like a laugh but there was no humour intended tho was there - he was being subjective and childish, he needs to live and let live and as for trying to tell people the bible is real, well that's the tiniest last morsel of respect out of the window. FFS - the bible.....sigh


You see I could be offended by that if I wanted to get on my high horse about what you should and shouldn't say. You may not believe in religion but some people do, yet it seems on here that a lot of people are happy to ridicule religion and religious beliefs but woe betide anybody who dares to think that homosexuality isn't normal. :roll:


As soon as evidence is produced that shows the beliefs of a religion are true, I'll accept it. Until then, I'll view religious folk the same way as I do people who say Elvis Presley patronises their local chippy.

Religious belief is a source of homophobia, so to compare one with the other is more than a little silly.

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we all like a laugh but there was no humour intended tho was there - he was being subjective and childish, he needs to live and let live and as for trying to tell people the bible is real, well that's the tiniest last morsel of respect out of the window. FFS - the bible.....sigh


You see I could be offended by that if I wanted to get on my high horse about what you should and shouldn't say. You may not believe in religion but some people do, yet it seems on here that a lot of people are happy to ridicule religion and religious beliefs but woe betide anybody who dares to think that homosexuality isn't normal. :roll:


As soon as evidence is produced that shows the beliefs of a religion are true, I'll accept it. Until then, I'll view religious folk the same way as I do people who say Elvis Presley patronises their local chippy.

Religious belief is a source of homophobia, so to compare one with the other is more than a little silly.


A little silly?

Is that the best that you can come up with? :roll:

So you don't believe in relgion. That's your prerogative and I accept that you're entitled to your beliefs yet you can't seem to accept that other people are entitled to theirs. Smacks of hypocrisy and ignorance to me.

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Smacks of hypocrisy and ignorance to me.


And thinking homosexuals arn't normal isnt ignorant?

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A little silly?

Is that the best that you can come up with? :roll:

So you don't believe in relgion. That's your prerogative and I accept that you're entitled to your beliefs yet you can't seem to accept that other people are entitled to theirs. Smacks of hypocrisy and ignorance to me.

No, I believe in religion. It definitely exists. I’ve seen churches, mosques, synagogues, etc. and even some people go inside them. I utterly believe in the existence of religion.

What I don’t believe in is the existence of a deity or celestial being (all powerful or otherwise) who expects to be worshipped. The reason I don’t believe in this is because there is absolutely no evidence for such a being whatsoever.

Homosexuality, on the otherhand, does exist.

So, to compare the belief in something for which there is no evidence to something for which there is a lots of evidence for, is a bit, well, silly.

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Smacks of hypocrisy and ignorance to me.


And thinking homosexuals arn't normal isnt ignorant?


Quite the contrary my little chuckle bunny, as I believe your posting of the dictionary definition proves that they are not normal.

Can you confirm that you agree with Mr Pepper's stance on people only being allowed to hold beliefs if you agree with them, as it appears that way.

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I dont wanna post, i just enjoy reading it and dont see any need to locking it. Waldo should be a politician!

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Smacks of hypocrisy and ignorance to me.


And thinking homosexuals arn't normal isnt ignorant?


Quite the contrary my little chuckle bunny, as I believe your posting of the dictionary definition proves that they are not normal.

Can you confirm that you agree with Mr Pepper's stance on people only being allowed to hold beliefs if you agree with them, as it appears that way.


So are all people who are homophobic then not normal by the definition in the dictionary. Or is it the other way around I am not sure if the biggots out number the others

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I dont wanna post, i just enjoy reading it and dont see any need to locking it. Waldo should be a politician!



I avoid answering questions? :shock:

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I dont wanna post, i just enjoy reading it and dont see any need to locking it. Waldo should be a politician!



I avoid answering questions? :shock:

I think he means you like the sound of your own voice, or you talk a lot of shite perhaps.................you choose!!!!!!!!!! :wink:

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I dont wanna post, i just enjoy reading it and dont see any need to locking it. Waldo should be a politician!



I think he means you like the sound of your own voice, or you talk a lot of shite perhaps.................you choose!!!!!!!!!! :wink:


Neither.

If I was only bothered about what I had to say, I'd comment on lots of threads but I don't do that. Nor am I likely to after that comment.

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There's progress as they say. :grin: :grin:

I'm not sure we can lump religion, homosexuality and paedophilia into the same jam jar, shake 'em up and put the world to rights in one fell swoop but it's entertaining watching you try. clappp clappp clappp


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There's progress as they say. :grin: :grin:

I'm not sure we can lump religion, homosexuality and paedophilia into the same jam jar, shake 'em up and put the world to rights in one fell swoop but it's entertaining watching you try. clappp clappp clappp


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 Post subject: Re: Alexander McQueen
PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:58 pm 
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WestParkPoolie wrote:
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There's progress as they say. :grin: :grin:

I'm not sure we can lump religion, homosexuality and paedophilia into the same jam jar, shake 'em up and put the world to rights in one fell swoop but it's entertaining watching you try. clappp clappp clappp


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 Post subject: Re: Alexander McQueen
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 Post subject: Re: Alexander McQueen
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WestParkPoolie wrote:
Spender wrote:
There's progress as they say. :grin: :grin:

I'm not sure we can lump religion, homosexuality and paedophilia into the same jam jar, shake 'em up and put the world to rights in one fell swoop but it's entertaining watching you try. clappp clappp clappp


That's Catholicism, isn't it? sctatchinghead bbolt


Genius, Mr West Park!! clappp clappp :laugh: :coool:


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