What will FIFA do

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

PJ_Poolie wrote:

misterb2001 wrote:

looking at the ref's position it was almost impossible for him to spot it.

Should the game be replayed? No.

Should there be video technology introduced? maybe

Should Fifa come down hard on cheats and re-introduce honour back into the game? in my opinion yes

Will anything happen? Will it shite, Fifa will just bury their head in the sand yet again.

What Henry did was no more than a bookable offfence, people have been doing sly handballs to gain an advantage since the game began. Some of the stuff people have been saying about Henry today is total bollocks, he's not a cheat he did something in the spare of the moment which the officials failed to spot, part of the game get over it!!

I remember the first England game I ever went to, England V Brazil at Wembley in 1990, the Brazilian forward went round Chris Woods and shot only for Stuart Pearce to make a diving save. The ref gave a corner England won 1-0!!

So gaining an unfair advantage is not cheating and is part of the game. Can you point me to where it officially states that.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

misterb2001 wrote:

fifa's excuse with that scenario though is any changes should be available throughout the game, top to bottom. How are Northern league or even Blue Square North teams going to be able to do the same thing?

there will need to be at least 2 cameras for each box, and someone with the technology available to view it instantaneously at every match in every professional and semi professional league in the world. I can't see it happening!

Can you show me where FIFA state their excuse or are you guessing/ making this up.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

i dont watch rugby but i presume it's not implemented top to bottom in that game?

or cricket?

or basketball?

So why should football be so special.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

Yubep wrote:

i dont watch rugby but i presume it's not implemented top to bottom in that game?

or cricket?

or basketball?

So why should football be so special.

Exactly.

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

I'm anti technology and always will be. I like human error in the game and the debate that continues after a game. These things even themselves out over time and you have to take the rough with the smooth, France should have had a penalty shouldn't they? If there'd been technology at the game, it'd have probably finished 1-1 anyway.

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:29 pm

derwent wrote:

PJ_Poolie wrote:

misterb2001 wrote:

looking at the ref's position it was almost impossible for him to spot it.

Should the game be replayed? No.

Should there be video technology introduced? maybe

Should Fifa come down hard on cheats and re-introduce honour back into the game? in my opinion yes

Will anything happen? Will it shite, Fifa will just bury their head in the sand yet again.

What Henry did was no more than a bookable offfence, people have been doing sly handballs to gain an advantage since the game began. Some of the stuff people have been saying about Henry today is total bollocks, he's not a cheat he did something in the spare of the moment which the officials failed to spot, part of the game get over it!!

I remember the first England game I ever went to, England V Brazil at Wembley in 1990, the Brazilian forward went round Chris Woods and shot only for Stuart Pearce to make a diving save. The ref gave a corner England won 1-0!!

So gaining an unfair advantage is not cheating and is part of the game. Can you point me to where it officially states that.

Handball is in an infringement no different to a shirt pull, late tackle, or blocking someone off in the box. Part of the game.

Are they all cheating? How many times does a defender pull a strikers shirt out of view of the ref?? Where do you draw the line? Ultimately it's up the officials to make the correct decision, the reason that goal stood isn't because Henry is a cheat it's because the officials failed to identify what had happened.

I think handball is very different to a dive as well like Anelka had done five minutes before that is trying to deceive the ref, Henry didn't disguise the fact the ball had struck his hand he couldn't it was there for everyone to see. What was Henry then meant to do?? Stop the game and award a free kick to Ireland? Is that his job?

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:47 pm

derwent wrote:

misterb2001 wrote:

fifa's excuse with that scenario though is any changes should be available throughout the game, top to bottom. How are Northern league or even Blue Square North teams going to be able to do the same thing?

there will need to be at least 2 cameras for each box, and someone with the technology available to view it instantaneously at every match in every professional and semi professional league in the world. I can't see it happening!

Can you show me where FIFA state their excuse or are you guessing/ making this up.

There is no specific comment on this incident, but i'm positive i have read several times before that Fifa believe that any rule changes have to be able to be rolled out of ALL levels of the game, from Amateur leagues to the very top.

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:49 pm

Compo wrote:

Why do people have a second team in a world cup, its like having a second team in the league, unless you are from there or like my ex's mam was from (china/south africa) a dad was from Japan, whats the point.

Just a bit of fun really - something to cushion the blow of England's inevitable knockout. :roll:

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

misterb2001 wrote:

derwent wrote:

misterb2001 wrote:

fifa's excuse with that scenario though is any changes should be available throughout the game, top to bottom. How are Northern league or even Blue Square North teams going to be able to do the same thing?

there will need to be at least 2 cameras for each box, and someone with the technology available to view it instantaneously at every match in every professional and semi professional league in the world. I can't see it happening!

Can you show me where FIFA state their excuse or are you guessing/ making this up.

There is no specific comment on this incident, but i'm positive i have read several times before that Fifa believe that any rule changes have to be able to be rolled out of ALL levels of the game, from Amateur leagues to the very top.

So why do Conference teams and below only have 5 teams but everyone else has 7?

Warwick Hunt · **Posted:** Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:02 pm

I wonder if Platini would kick up a stink if it happened the other way round last night and RoI had scored in that situation to go through to the World Cup.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:05 pm

Tax Paying Poolie wrote:

So why do Conference teams and below only have 5 teams but everyone else has 7?

i'm assuming you mean subs? And the answer is i don't know, i don't work for Fifa!! I'm only commenting on what i have read in the past.

GroovyCrimes · **Posted:** Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:05 pm

Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thierry_Henry&oldid=326715091

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

PJPOOLIE, I asked you a specific question. I've heard all the waffle before. If you can't answer the question then please spare me the waffle.
Ta.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

misterb2001 wrote:

derwent wrote:

misterb2001 wrote:

fifa's excuse with that scenario though is any changes should be available throughout the game, top to bottom. How are Northern league or even Blue Square North teams going to be able to do the same thing?

there will need to be at least 2 cameras for each box, and someone with the technology available to view it instantaneously at every match in every professional and semi professional league in the world. I can't see it happening!

Can you show me where FIFA state their excuse or are you guessing/ making this up.

There is no specific comment on this incident, but i'm positive i have read several times before that Fifa believe that any rule changes have to be able to be rolled out of ALL levels of the game, from Amateur leagues to the very top.

More waffle.
There is no evidence that this is FIFA's stance.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:47 pm

derwent wrote:

More waffle.
There is no evidence that this is FIFA's stance.

coming from the person waffling about extra investment from outside parties for Pools? :laugh:

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

all this talk of waffles has got me hungry

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37732

Stick me two in while you're there. :laugh:

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:24 am

Tax Paying Poolie wrote:

I'm anti technology and always will be. I like human error in the game and the debate that continues after a game. These things even themselves out over time and you have to take the rough with the smooth, France should have had a penalty shouldn't they? If there'd been technology at the game, it'd have probably finished 1-1 anyway.

Concurring here with Mr Tax.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Snowy wrote:

Stick me two in while you're there. :laugh:

Christ i was up late last night wasnt i!!

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

misterb2001 wrote:

derwent wrote:

More waffle.
There is no evidence that this is FIFA's stance.

coming from the person waffling about extra investment from outside parties for Pools? :laugh:

Shock horror...........I pass as much info as I dare to fellow Poolies, without getting anybody into trouble ( I hope ) and you compare it to making up FIFA'S stance on the use of technology. :roll:

I hope you didn't spend too much time thinking of that stirring reply. I must have hit a nerve. :grin:

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:13 am

nope i just think you are an arrogant prick for saying i have made it up!

Warwick Hunt · **Posted:** Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:21 am

Snowy wrote:

Stick me two in while you're there. :laugh:

Are we still talking about waffles? rolfl

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

Warwick Hunt wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Stick me two in while you're there. :laugh:

Are we still talking about waffles? rolfl

I've had two...and I stuck two in for Mr Snowy..but he hasn't been round yet. Do you want a couple?? :grin:

Compo · **Posted:** Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:35 am

derwent wrote:

Warwick Hunt wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Stick me two in while you're there. :laugh:

Are we still talking about waffles? rolfl

I've had two...and I stuck two in for Mr Snowy..but he hasn't been round yet. Do you want a couple?? :grin:

do you have a waffle iron or do you cheat and buy the premade ones from asda

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

misterb2001 wrote:

nope i just think you are an arrogant prick for saying i have made it up!

Ah...the name calling.
It never takes very long with you does it??

I suppose I must take some of the blame...........I probably go too fast for you. :wink:

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:49 am

name calling or telling the truth? I tell it how it is!

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

misterb2001 wrote:

name calling or telling the truth? I tell it how it is!

Good lad.

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:05 pm

misterb2001 wrote:

name calling or telling the truth? I tell it how it is!

Yeah man, you rock!

Don't let the law keep you down, maaaaann

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