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 Post subject: Re: September 30, 1955
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:33 pm 
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I'll take that as you not being able to put together a reasonable argument with any point.

Or, you could tell me what in that you believe is wrong and why.


You could do.

Or you could take it as being that not only was every point you made socialist claptrap so beloved of the working man who has never done a day's work in their life, the fact that the subject has been done to death over the years on The Bunker and you leftie types still get some kind of sexual kick from describing The Iron Lady as the antichrist and the fact that while I'm at work I have neither the time nor the inclination to get into a long drawn out argument to try and enlighten a blinkered man to the facts of the matter.

Nobody's perfect but Thatcher did more good than bad. FACT.

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 Post subject: Re: September 30, 1955
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:44 pm 
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The Blair/Brown government that would offer not one penny of support to save jobs at Rover or Woolworths but can release unlimited billions (£170,000,000,000 so far) for their friends in the city so they can keep their bonuses



Rover made poo cars and Woolworths was poo

Infact the amount of cash both Labour & the Tories pumped into the British car industry beggars belief

No one in their right mind would of bought a Rover made in the last 30 years


Ere! Anyone can make a mistake. :uhoh:

(Rover 200, What a pile of steaming cack.)

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 Post subject: Re: September 30, 1955
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:48 pm 
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Mr Ripper wrote:
pde147 wrote:
I'll take that as you not being able to put together a reasonable argument with any point.

Or, you could tell me what in that you believe is wrong and why.


You could do.

Or you could take it as being that not only was every point you made socialist claptrap so beloved of the working man who has never done a day's work in their life, the fact that the subject has been done to death over the years on The Bunker and you leftie types still get some kind of sexual kick from describing The Iron Lady as the antichrist and the fact that while I'm at work I have neither the time nor the inclination to get into a long drawn out argument to try and enlighten a blinkered man to the facts of the matter.

Nobody's perfect but Thatcher did more good than bad. FACT.


Aw go on, enrich us with your non blinkered viewpoint.
Personally I think claptrap comes in all forms and from all directions, left or right.

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 Post subject: Re: September 30, 1955
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:51 pm 
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The Blair/Brown government that would offer not one penny of support to save jobs at Rover or Woolworths but can release unlimited billions (£170,000,000,000 so far) for their friends in the city so they can keep their bonuses.


You sir are blinded by the facts of looking into something to much. The British car industry was dying on its arse and shouldnt have been saved, (lets save a couple of Brummies jobs just for the sake of it when they are not pulling their weight) as this only affects the small minority of people who work there maybe 2000+ (i dont know exactly).

Try 14,000 jobs plus the 50,000 in the supply chain, plus the knock-ons in local trade/shops not directly linked. That the behaviour of the four criminals who looted the company and then discarded a broken shell went unpunished is another example of the laissez-faire economic management of the country in the last 30 years.

Far from being on their back the last generation of Rover and MG cars were the first good ones in 20 years. Why do you think so little of British people. How do you justify your belief that Nissan with Japanese management can successfully make cars in Britain with a British workforce but British people can't?


However the reason the banks were saved is because if they cannot trade with each other the whole economic world will collapse and would lead to a longer recession and everyone loosing their jobs


Precisely what the bankers would have you believe. Lehman Brother's closed and the world did not collapse. Here's an idea that would have saved every man/woman and child in the UK £30,000 each so far: to lend more money than you have is fraud whether a bank does it or an individual does it.


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 Post subject: Re: September 30, 1955
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:09 pm 
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Far from being on their back the last generation of Rover and MG cars were the first good ones in 20 years. Why do you think so little of British people. How do you justify your belief that Nissan with Japanese management can successfully make cars in Britain with a British workforce but British people can't?


They assemble the cars here they dont run the company here. The work force of the world and all the growing business is in asian now, why my company deals most with buying products from asia. Look at TVR, morgan etc they are all going to the dogs that industry isnt economically viable anymore in the UK.

Why do you want to spend your and our money on an industry thats making none. If I dont do my job at work and we dont sell anything I loose my job, end of.

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 Post subject: Re: September 30, 1955
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:23 pm 
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Well the banks need to explain why they are avoiding paying tax back to me... robbing bastads.. should've let ALL weak banks collapse. a la Northern Rock then we'd own the fookin lot now apart from HSBC rather than them laughing at us and fleecing us all with their "bonuses" again..(On a more selfish point the weaker the £ is the better for me so carry on Mr Brown ..a 10% pay rise due to exchange rate movement has been most welcome...) :laugh: :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: September 30, 1955
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[quote="Pierrepoint"]Well the banks need to explain why they are avoiding paying tax back to me... robbing bastads.. should've let ALL weak banks collapse. a la Northern Rock then we'd own the fookin lot now apart from HSBC rather than them laughing at us and fleecing us all with their "bonuses" again..(On a more selfish point the weaker the £ is the better for me so carry on Mr Brown ..a 10% pay rise due to exchange rate movement has been most welcome...) :laugh: :laugh:[/quote]

20% for me.

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 Post subject: Re: September 30, 1955
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Well mine's the same but I didn't want to appear too greedy... :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: September 30, 1955
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You sir are blinded by the facts of looking into something to much. The British car industry was dying on its arse and shouldnt have been saved, (lets save a couple of Brummies jobs just for the sake of it when they are not pulling their weight) as this only affects the small minority of people who work there maybe 2000+ (i dont know exactly).

Try 14,000 jobs plus the 50,000 in the supply chain, plus the knock-ons in local trade/shops not directly linked. That the behaviour of the four criminals who looted the company and then discarded a broken shell went unpunished is another example of the laissez-faire economic management of the country in the last 30 years.

Far from being on their back the last generation of Rover and MG cars were the first good ones in 20 years. Why do you think so little of British people. How do you justify your belief that Nissan with Japanese management can successfully make cars in Britain with a British workforce but British people can't?


However the reason the banks were saved is because if they cannot trade with each other the whole economic world will collapse and would lead to a longer recession and everyone loosing their jobs[/quote]

Precisely what the bankers would have you believe. Lehman Brother's closed and the world did not collapse. Here's an idea that would have saved every man/woman and child in the UK £30,000 each so far: to lend more money than you have is fraud whether a bank does it or an individual does it.[/quote]

First good ones for TWENTY years! That's some argument!

I had one of later ones and it was the worst car I've had.

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 Post subject: Re: September 30, 1955
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:15 pm 
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Well mine's the same but I didn't want to appear too greedy... :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: September 30, 1955
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Well i think your all wrong, so there! :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz:

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 Post subject: Re: September 30, 1955
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you just care about kit-kats and buckets

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 Post subject: Re: September 30, 1955
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:09 pm 
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Compo wrote:

They assemble the cars here they dont run the company here. The work force of the world and all the growing business is in asian now, why my company deals most with buying products from asia. Look at TVR, morgan etc they are all going to the dogs that industry isnt economically viable anymore in the UK.

Why do you want to spend your and our money on an industry thats making none. If I dont do my job at work and we dont sell anything I loose my job, end of.


I think that you will find the Nissan Sunderland plant is one of a few Nissan plants that is making profit, that is why they shut down about 4 factories in Japan only in the last 24 months


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 Post subject: Re: September 30, 1955
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:25 pm 
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You sir are blinded by the facts of looking into something to much. The British car industry was dying on its arse and shouldnt have been saved, (lets save a couple of Brummies jobs just for the sake of it when they are not pulling their weight) as this only affects the small minority of people who work there maybe 2000+ (i dont know exactly).

Try 14,000 jobs plus the 50,000 in the supply chain, plus the knock-ons in local trade/shops not directly linked. That the behaviour of the four criminals who looted the company and then discarded a broken shell went unpunished is another example of the laissez-faire economic management of the country in the last 30 years.

Far from being on their back the last generation of Rover and MG cars were the first good ones in 20 years. Why do you think so little of British people. How do you justify your belief that Nissan with Japanese management can successfully make cars in Britain with a British workforce but British people can't?


However the reason the banks were saved is because if they cannot trade with each other the whole economic world will collapse and would lead to a longer recession and everyone loosing their jobs


Precisely what the bankers would have you believe. Lehman Brother's closed and the world did not collapse. Here's an idea that would have saved every man/woman and child in the UK £30,000 each so far: to lend more money than you have is fraud whether a bank does it or an individual does it.[/quote]

First good ones for TWENTY years! That's some argument!

I had one of later ones and it was the worst car I've had.[/quote]

The Rover 75 was superb for its target market of wealthy pensioners who wanted a Jag but couldn't afford one.

To describe the 45 as an improvement on the abysmal cars of the 90s like 416 and 416 that were a laughing stock is a massive understatement.

The MG ZR is a genuinely excellent boy racer's car.

The first decent crop of Rovers since Bill Maynard's on 'The Gaffer'


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 Post subject: Re: September 30, 1955
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:54 pm 
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norgepoolie wrote:
You sir are blinded by the facts of looking into something to much. The British car industry was dying on its arse and shouldnt have been saved, (lets save a couple of Brummies jobs just for the sake of it when they are not pulling their weight) as this only affects the small minority of people who work there maybe 2000+ (i dont know exactly).

Try 14,000 jobs plus the 50,000 in the supply chain, plus the knock-ons in local trade/shops not directly linked. That the behaviour of the four criminals who looted the company and then discarded a broken shell went unpunished is another example of the laissez-faire economic management of the country in the last 30 years.

Far from being on their back the last generation of Rover and MG cars were the first good ones in 20 years. Why do you think so little of British people. How do you justify your belief that Nissan with Japanese management can successfully make cars in Britain with a British workforce but British people can't?


However the reason the banks were saved is because if they cannot trade with each other the whole economic world will collapse and would lead to a longer recession and everyone loosing their jobs


Precisely what the bankers would have you believe. Lehman Brother's closed and the world did not collapse. Here's an idea that would have saved every man/woman and child in the UK £30,000 each so far: to lend more money than you have is fraud whether a bank does it or an individual does it.


First good ones for TWENTY years! That's some argument!

I had one of later ones and it was the worst car I've had.[/quote]

The Rover 75 was superb for its target market of wealthy pensioners who wanted a Jag but couldn't afford one.

To describe the 45 as an improvement on the abysmal cars of the 90s like 416 and 416 that were a laughing stock is a massive understatement.

The MG ZR is a genuinely excellent boy racer's car.

The first decent crop of Rovers since Bill Maynard's on 'The Gaffer'[/quote]



All Rovers, be it the 25, 45 or 75 were cack, worth fook all divided by four


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you just care about kit-kats and buckets


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