the genuine ones ... have every right to expect support ... The dodgepots should be booted out unceremoniously.

Are these labels stuck on their foreheads, Mr I? Now you are making your 'dodgepots' into the Untermenschen. You might like to jump to conclusions but the legal system is rightly designed to give everyone a hearing of sorts. That's because they are our equals as human beings.

Anyhow a Happy ASBOmas from me and my pals

TA, I shouldn't worry too much about gullible immigration tribunals but I should worry about whether you can spot a 'dodgepot' by looking at them. Consider the following statistics:

In 2006, the Home Office refused 88% of applications from Iraqis at initial decision-making stage. There was a 91.6% rejection rate in 2006 for initial decisions on Zimbabwean applications; the Home Office decision was overturned on appeal in 41% of the Zimbabwean cases dealt with in 2006.

(Source: Home Office, asylum statistics: 4th quarter 2006, 2007)

23% of all asylum appeals decided in 2006 resulted in Home Office decisions being overturned.

(Source: Home Office, Asylum statistics: 4th quarter 2006, 2007)

we should put them all on a plane to america

it's thier fault

What's the difference between a Rolls Royce Trent 700 and a Poolie Bunker reactionary?
The Rolls Royce Trent 700 *stops* whining as soon as it has no work to do.

An Indian in Calcutta once taught me a great lesson in humility. I'd got a taxi to Howrah station and on the way it stopped to pick up a man accompanied by three children. Not being used to having my taxis stopped by others I started to complain to the driver. The man who had just got in turned round and asked "are you comfortable in the back?" Since he and all three kids were sharing a single seat in the front there wasn't very much I could say was there, so I shut up.

So, tell me, are you the complainers comfortable compared with people like the asylum seekers? If so then why do yous spend all your fookin time whinging about immigrants/muslims/wheelie bins/homosexuals/kate nash/speed fines...

Chill out folks!

you dont write national front leaflets by any chance do you big al ?

no I dont write leaflets for the bnp or national front, but have worked with refugee's for years and have listened to them, complaining about how england , usa and the rest of western europe owe them for destroying their land, they never looked at our armed forces as peace keepers.... by the way I'm one of the many who had to leave england to get on in life and I respect the rules of the land where I live and their customs.....and I am not a racist....but have seen both sides believe me

why???

are you having a laugh ??

hey Richard dont know if you have bairns but if you do and they want a house from the council, your daughter wil have to get knocked up to get one and your son will to do time to get a roof over his head, a refugee gets privalages your kids wont and most genuine refugee's go to a safe place in their own land. And when they come they still want to live their old lives instead of living by the rules of the land

Fookin hell do you really believe all that? 35 years ago when I wanted a council house i couldn't get one for love or money. Was that the refugees' fault?
And what if a refugee does get privileges? So what? They're not the only friggin' social group to get privileges are they. It's just sheer fooking jealousy. But refugees are an easy, emotive target aren't they so let's pick on them.
As for integrating yeah, sure, everyone should just forget about their old lifestlye and customs when they move shouldn't they. I mean if they were any good they wouldn't have left them behind. You want to go and spend a week in Dordogne and see how well Britons integrate.

Honestly, all this stands out as nothing more than plain fookin' whinging. Whinge whinge whinge. Britons whinging abroad, Britons whinging at home, never happy unless they have something to whinge about. Is there a place in the world where we (the collective we) don't whinge? It's depressing. You could be enjoying yourselves but the nasty refugees are spoiling it all for you.

Fookin hell do you really believe all that? 35 years ago when I wanted a council house i couldn't get one for love or money. Was that the refugees' fault?
And what if a refugee does get privileges? So what? They're not the only friggin' social group to get privileges are they. It's just sheer fooking jealousy. But refugees are an easy, emotive target aren't they so let's pick on them.
As for integrating yeah, sure, everyone should just forget about their old lifestlye and customs when they move shouldn't they. I mean if they were any good they wouldn't have left them behind. You want to go and spend a week in Dordogne and see how well Britons integrate.

Honestly, all this stands out as nothing more than plain fookin' whinging. Whinge whinge whinge. Britons whinging abroad, Britons whinging at home, never happy unless they have something to whinge about. Is there a place in the world where we (the collective we) don't whinge? It's depressing. You could be enjoying yourselves but the nasty refugees are spoiling it all for you.

Fookin hell do you really believe all that? 35 years ago when I wanted a council house i couldn't get one for love or money. Was that the refugees' fault?
And what if a refugee does get privileges? So what? They're not the only friggin' social group to get privileges are they. It's just sheer fooking jealousy. But refugees are an easy, emotive target aren't they so let's pick on them.
As for integrating yeah, sure, everyone should just forget about their old lifestlye and customs when they move shouldn't they. I mean if they were any good they wouldn't have left them behind. You want to go and spend a week in Dordogne and see how well Britons integrate.

Honestly, all this stands out as nothing more than plain fookin' whinging. Whinge whinge whinge. Britons whinging abroad, Britons whinging at home, never happy unless they have something to whinge about. Is there a place in the world where we (the collective we) don't whinge? It's depressing. You could be enjoying yourselves but the nasty refugees are spoiling it all for you.

You're whinging about whinging...it's a double...

wasn't it about 35 years ago the boat people or was it koreans got given houses, and I was a bairn then, mind you my memory might not be as good now

are our refugee,s still in these countries or did they return home in 1946 when it was safe

bosnia,,croatia serbia,kosovo

do you believe the official figuers.,,,i believe the ex yugo,s that i know who tell me how many of there friends and relative,s moved to the uk and are still there but its better that we believethe goverment ststistcs they are allway,s right

if you are going to call me a namby pamby liberal is it okay if i refer to you as a right wing bigot ?

it seems only fair.

How many Bosnian refugees came to the UK, thousands, I don't think so

They didn't all get houses, they didn't all knock chav named, big foreheaded kids out, did they, or DO YOU know different from your armchair in the Nertherlands?

i have read the whole thread and nobody has accused anyone of being a racist, though 3 people have alleged that they have been called that ??????

bizarre.

well i think almost everyone who has contributed to the thread has agreed, at the very least, that by offering financial rewards to failed asylum seekers to leave the uk, you run the risk of inducing more people to enter the country.

but nobody from either side of the fence has come up with an answer to the question how do you seal the borders.

the fact is that this is never going to happen because there will always be a need for people to move relatively freely into and out of the country.

if you cannot stop people entering the country then you have to find ways to stop people wanting to enter the country and then find the most cost effective way to return those with no legal recourse to remain here back to their own country.

while i have read a lot of rhetoric on this thread from people who have no sympathy whatsoever with the plight of the asylum seeker i have read nothing from any of them that provides a solution to the problem.

its all well and good whingeing about the government, and tree hugging namby pamby liberals but where are your answers to the problem you perceive to be so important ?

Snowy, the step back was taken a while ago. This isn't what I'd a call a heated argument.
Nonetheless as a parting note can I say I never cease to be amazed at people who think the "rid the world of the wogs and my life will be a hundred times better" argument has even the slightest merit.

If we start a national policy of mass deportation tomorrow it won't change anybody's life on this board in any degree whatsoever. Do the people who advocate such measures really have nothing better to whinge about? OK, tell you what, let's get mean with the bastards and send them all to guantamo bay; there, job done. Now what's next big whinge???

But you can bet your bottom dollar they won't let the matter drop because they are so fuelled up with xenophobia that they can't sleep at night as long as there's a single foreigner on these shores - or even thinking about coming to them. I defy anyone to explain to me in what way asylum seekers have degraded their quality of life.

Do it!

heres an idea dugout, read the thread before talking shite.

thats if your attention span is up to it.

These posts . Mutley has a very special talent for farting, getting out of the way sharpish and leaving you lot to fight over who dropped it....

well i think almost everyone who has contributed to the thread has agreed, at the very least, that by offering financial rewards to failed asylum seekers to leave the uk, you run the risk of inducing more people to enter the country.

but nobody from either side of the fence has come up with an answer to the question how do you seal the borders.

if you cannot stop people entering the country then you have to find ways to stop people wanting to enter the country illegally and then find the most cost effective way to return those with no legal recourse to remain here back to their own country.

while i have read a lot of rhetoric on this thread from people who have no sympathy whatsoever with the plight of the asylum seeker i have read nothing from any of them that provides a solution to the problem.

its all well and good whingeing about the government, and tree hugging namby pamby liberals but where are your answers to the problem you perceive to be so important ?