I am not sure I said everyone who votes Tory is incredibly stupid.

Anyone does on the basis of this ‘Get Brexit Done’ baloney undoubtedly is. It’s a simplistic term deliberately to target idiots. They are using a single issue to distract people from the absolute carnage they have caused.

Or maybe they are doing it because 17.4 million voted for them to do it.

Voted for them to do what?

Have a guess.

Bloody hell John, you have been busy.
You have eloquently confirmed why I haven't ever, won't and never will vote tory. Not that I needed confirmation but thanks for the effort.

If you've got the time can you be as eloquent and advise me who to vote for.
I'm still favouring abstention but I'll listen to your advice on who to vote for and why. You are a reasonable sort of chap and I used to enjoy our chats at away games and you always talk sense.
I have never shirked voting, since my first vote in the sixties, and I really want to cast it this time.

Ta in advance.

Vote Green, save the world.

Personally I wouldn't bet on it ever getting done. Mr Johnson is putting great store on getting it done. Mr Corbyn is neutral. Ms Swinson would revoke it. Mr Farage wants out, deal or no deal. Ms Sturgeon would sell her Grannie to get another independence referendum and I would like Pools to get back into the Football League.
I wonder if any of us will get any joy. I wouldn't bet on that either. But I hope it's me!!!!

has anyone had their door knocked yet by any candidate. seems to have gone out of fashion in my area. seems the elections have turned into some sort of television programme nowadays.

All I've had is three leaflets, labour, tory and lib dem.
No one in person, as yet.
Probably too cold for the soft buggers.

Had over 20 leaflets from the racist party. Spending some coin that lot.

Its beyond me how a town like Hartlepool has more gullible people than probably anywhere in the world. I am just hoping enough see the light before or on polling day.

Had one in my letterbox today from North East Party. In theory no bad thing but in reality probably a bunch of thick gullible racist fascists

Aye you keep her right John.

I can just hear her now................ I love our john to bits but he's still a bit petulant at times.

Without doubt John. I'd give anything to be able to fuss over my Mam.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50679252

Take that you bottleless lying little weasel.

The BBC think they rule the country. If they were to be made accountable they would run a mile. When we are presented with BBC "experts", lo and behold they are ordinary, run of the mill journalists, described as "experts".
Andrew Neil is an arsehole, a bad mannered arsehole. I've often wondered why people allow themselves to be bullied by this arrogant arsehole.
He treat Jeremy Corbyn with contempt and was allowed to get away with it. He has the arrogance to challenge the latest Prime minister with the sole intent of making him a point scoring exercise. I am not a fan of Johnson but he has my admiration to stand up to a man who hasn't done an honest days work in his life. I'm not a fan of Corbyn either but there is absolutely no need for a twat like Neil to be allowed to behave as he did to the leader of the opposition. I wish Johnson and Corbyn would go head to head with him with no holds barred. Boris would bury him, as would Corbyn and any of the leaders but for some reason they hold back. Show some guts and tell these journos what day it is.

“I am not a fan of Johnson but he has my admiration to stand up to a man who hasn't done an honest days work in his life.”

Stand up to him? He fucking shit himself when Neil was mentioned. An absolute coward but as loads of his blind supporters say “a lovable coward”

I hope if the next time he goes to see the queen and she says kneel he says sorry ma’am, must dash to the loo

Utter nonsense. Johnson hasnt stood up to anyone. He has been told to keep away for the good of his campaign. He is so scared he would rather be ridiculed than stand up to scrutiny. Did you not see how easy Andrew Marr made him stutter and pretend to be comedic just to avoid answering a question? And you admire him. Johnson couldnt bury anyone in a debate as a debate would not allow him to see the words lets get brexit done over and over and over and over and over and over again.

I really don't like Andrew Neil but saying he's never done an honest days work in his life is unfair Mr Derwent. He came up through the ranks at The Economist to edit the UK section, edited the Sunday Times for more than a decade, was a successful columnist and then built a successful career on TV.

You're right about him being an arsehole though and he is a Tory as well. Probably reasonable to say he is a very hard working Tory arsehole.

talking about doing honest days work. something many politicians can never be accused of as the word Honest comes up in it.

Unfairness seems to be the theme of this election, so let's all join in.

Standing up to Andrew Neil can take a lot of forms. Courage to stand up to him in a one to one situation isn't the only way to show courage.
It takes courage to tell the BBC and Andrew Neil that you are not going to play their game.
Day after day we see politicians (of all persuasions) being interviewed without any respect shown to them and not just during an election. It's no wonder we have the crop that we've got. Which right minded person would want to put themselves through that on a regular basis. If all the leaders, nay all politicians, said no a little bit more, maybe a bit more decorum would enter the proceedings. Andrew Neil is the epitomy of a bully so denying him the opportunity is a step in the right direction,
If Corbyn is on, all the anti Corbynistas scream abuse at the Telly, baying for his blood and vice versa with Johnson. It happens in the live debates as well. No matter what is said it is clapped or jeered in accordance with which side each person is on. It even happens on here. It is a farce. Nobody is right all the time and nobody is wrong all the time.
It is like the Roman coliseum where you put your thumbs up for live and thumbs down for die
I'll tell you an absolute irrefutable prediction. If Andrew Neil treat me like he treat Corbyn or would like to treat Johnson, he'd be nursing a bloody nose and I suspect one or two bunkerites would be of the same leaning.
I don't see the pleasure in watching one man bullying another. Maybe that is why bullying is rife......we all just sit and watch it and call people cowards who refuse to take part.

we are not talking about bullying towards a normal person, its towards a pathalogical liar that needs outing. And one so clearly avoiding scrutiny its embarrassing.

And you are really starting to sound like the tory partys wet dream.

Your boy is racist. Its loud and clear here.

Racist tory boy.

https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/12 ... 0729576450

I haven't got a boy, would have liked one but never mind.

Leave no stone upturned with the scumbags..



https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/elec ... -h390f5n5x

You can't call the labour party racist, the hypocrites on here will have a hissy fit.
There isn't any evidence you know.
Looks like a proper nest of racist vipers is currently being uncovered in the labour party.
You are allowed to be racist against jews cos they don't count.
Jews are capitalist you know. Capitalists are nasty bastards ergo Jews are nasty bastards.
The Marxists on here like burying their heads in the sand, some of them literally.

They're all grassing mr derwent...them gullible yoghurt throwing idiots are being taken for a ride alright..

It's not as if we haven't told them.
As we speak they are planning the biggest squirming demonstration known to man.
Maybe they'll all go neutral, like their leader..........Mr Nice guy.

Politics and religion are a crock of shit, I overheard 2 blokes in Greggs yesterday, first guy said "How`s your sex life"?
2nd guy said "I`m having Universal credit sex", "Universal credit sex"?, "Yeah, I get a little each month but not enough to live on"

Lest we forget

https://www.businessinsider.com/boris-j ... 019-6?IR=T

A senior British diplomat in the US has quit with a blast at the UK government over Brexit, saying she could no longer "peddle half-truths" on behalf of political leaders she did not "trust."
In a searing resignation letter delivered just over a week before the UK general election, Alexandra Hall Hall, the lead envoy for Brexit in the British Embassy in Washington, said that she had become increasingly dismayed by the demands placed on the British civil service to deliver messages on Brexit which were not "fully honest."

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/06/uk/t ... index.html

Only a few days left and then no more talk of Brexit, mostly because you will know you're wasting your breath. Boris with his large majority can just get on with it, get his bills through effortlessly and not even turn up to listen to spoiling motions by whats left of the opposition.

I can't wait!

No more talk of Brexit!!!?

I had you down as a lot more intelligent than that.

I don’t know what polls or voting intentions you are following to be quite that confident....

This is incredible ;

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ssion=true

Brilliant article

Well I expect a tory landslide so it wont shock me. If we do get one mind I just hope the idiots that voted for it dont start whining shortly after as they have no body but themselves to blame.

Keep quoting the left wing shite boys. It's all you've got to cling on to.
When Corbyn gets into bed with Sturgeon, I have bagsied the pick of the litter.

Your posts are getting increasingly more pathetic.

So highlighting a couple of articles that call out exactly what Boris Johnson is, is now ‘left wing shite’.

I'm digging out of concern for you my friend. I'm actually digging in sand looking for your head. You continue to support an obvious racist party while at the same time call me racist.
I think you need to inject a bit more balance in your arguments. Supporting Corbyn is supporting anti semitism. Supporting Johnson is supporting Islamophobia. Both parties have it, both parties are allegedly against it but ( just for you) are pissing about when it comes to sorting it. All sorts of excuses are being put forward to justify support for an anti seminist group whilst condemning the other side. It really is fucking pathetic. If we are going to attack racism then let's do it on ALL fronts.
You seem to be favouring a party with proven racism within it's ranks. A party who's prospective home secretary wants to abandon MI5, a prospective Chancellor who wants to destroy capitalism, who wants to bankrupt the country, who wants to put momentum in the boardrooms, who wants to nationalise everything that moves and a leader who has a known record of supporting terrorists.
McDonnell actually accused the tories this very morning of bailing out the banks. Gordon Brown did that.
Don't even begin to criticise me whilst you support that shower.

Don't twist the truth. Strange how you managed to spot the Mcdonnell mistake on bailing out the banks, but not the bit when he said Labour wanted to transform Capitalism not destroy it. Labour has anti semitics within its ranks but not a large scale and they are dealing with it. Like any large group there will always be bad apples. How many people who post on here are anti semitics. racists , wife beaters or sex offenders, I bet there are one or two?. I bet come Friday morning you wont hear another thing about Anti Semitism.

Why does every Tory solution to poverty, low wages, homelessness, increasing reliance on food banks and poor health outcomes involve giving very rich people more money? Trickle down economics doesn’t work except for the few. Tory policies of giving tax cuts to large corporations and billionaires while allowing them to use overseas tax havens to avoid paying tax contrasts with Labour’s alternative of applying resources to end austerity and addressing the under funding of our public services and investment in vital infrastructure including free super fast broadband, creating new skilled jobs through its Green New Deal and regional investment bank and giving families a boost to their incomes by ending the benefit freeze and increasing real wages and in the process rebuild Britain

The bank bailing out was an out and out mistake was it, if Johnson had said it, it would have been called a lie.
So was McDonnell lying or did he not know what he was talking about Given the nonsense he spouts on a regular basis, you can call it a mistake and I'll call it a lie, a deliberate lie to deceive the electorate.
On capitalism all he did was change his wording. Transforming a human being into a corpse is the same as destroying a human life. Another misleading comment which, if Johnson had done it, would be called a lie.
McDonnell himself gave you the answer to the anti semitism and it's scale when he said one is one too many. Or did you miss that.
There is one notable aspect about the labour party......they talk a good game. Fortunately the great British people won't fall for it.
In their 2017 manifesto they backed brexit amongst other promises but fortunately they were rejected by the electorate. They have systematically failed to back their manifesto on the only promise that they could have delivered. So why should any of their current manifesto promises be any different? Why should the lying bastards be trusted with any responsibility now? Not one Labour leader in modern history has entrusted corbyn with responsibility. The Parliamentary party overwhelmingly voted him down in a vote of no confidence. He was only saved by momentum, by marxists, by communists of the hard left. You want those commissars to infiltrate board rooms and "supervise" activities. Is that what you mean by transforming capitalism.
On Brexit, Mr silly arse is going to negotiate a new deal. This is going to be some deal when his brexit secretary is going to vote against it before he knows what the bloody deal is, whilst mr Silly Arse is going to remain neutral on his own deal. Just imagine it when Mr silly arse comes back with his deal, presents his deal to Parliament and instead of concluding with the famous words " I recommend this deal to the house" he says " I can't recommend this deal to the house because I am neutral on it, and my brexit secretary and my home secretary are voting against it".
AND YOU WANT THESE IDIOTS TO BE LET LOOSE ON OUR ECONOMY????????????????

John I would give you credibility if you remotely show a balanced opinion. Both major parties have racist problems. Both major parties mislead the electorate, call it lies if you want.
Nothing new in politics
Whereas I have criticised both parties the mood that comes across is one of the tories are the ogres and labour are the cavalry.
I have criticised both of them and have told you and others time and time again where I stand.
I do criticise labour more than the tories because momentum et al have taken over the party and it is a party I can no longer support because of their hard left policies and, whether you like it or not, their failure to crack racism within the party and their leader's insistence on supporting terrorism. You and others on this forum taught me one is one too many, so if you want to criticise that you to have a look elsewhere for the answer. Every time I hear you and others try to water down racism in the labour party I think Ha, bloody hypocrite. It is not my fault that you come across like that. I don't give any credence to the excuses of it's not very much etc etc. You are either for it or against it but if it gives you comfort to spout such excuses, then carry on but leave me out of it.

It is my opinion that you consider me to be a racist. When we next meet you will get the opportunity to convince me one way or the other because I do have respect for you.