Staggering comments. The moral compass even on here appears to be very low amongst some.

Could never understand this. Surely you should have to live in the constituency you are standing in?
Here is the full list of candidates who live outside the North East and how far they live away from their constituencies. Not sure if it includes Teesside, guessing it doesn't, so could be even worse.
No surprise that many of them are from the parties that lack values and principles.

Where does Richard Tice live in Hartlepool ?


Newcastle Central - Emily Victoria Payne (Conservative) - address in Westminster North (275 miles)
Newcastle East - Robin Gwynn (Conservative) - address in East Surrey (294 miles)
Newcastle North - Mark Guy Lehain (Conservative) - address in Bedford (230 miles)
North Tyneside - Dean Spencer Carroll (Conservative) - address in the Shrewsbury and Atcham constituency (232 miles)
Tynemouth - Ed Punchard (Brexit Party) - Australia (9,000 miles)
South Shields - Oni Boghene Oviri (Conservative) - address in the Croydon South constituency (310 miles)
Jarrow - Richard Leslie Monaghan (Brexit Party) - address in Winchester (310 miles)
Blaydon - Adrian Norman Spencer Pepper (Conservative) - address in Cities of London and Westminster constituency (278 miles)
Gateshead - Jane Emma Macbean (Conservative) - address in the Chesham and Amersham constituency (266 miles)
Bishop Auckland - Ray Georgeson (Liberal Democrat) - address in the Leeds North West constituency (69 miles)
Easington - Clare Ambrosino (Conservative) - address in the Hammersmith & Fulham constituency (278 miles)
North Durham - Ed Parson (Conservative) - address in the Sevenoaks constituency (285 miles)
North Durham - Peter Telford (Brexit Party) - address in the South West Devon constituency (389 miles)
North West Durham - Richard John Holden (Conservative) - 1 Meadowside,Grindleton, Clitheroe, Lancashire, BB7 4RR (100 miles)
Sedgefield - David Richard Bull (Brexit Party) - address in the Central Suffolk and North Ipswich constituency (257 miles)
Houghton and Sunderland South - Christopher John Charles Howarth (Conservative) - address in the Kensington constituency (274 miles)
Sunderland Central - Tom D'Silva (Conservative) - address in the Kingston and Surbiton constituency (298 miles)
Washington and Sunderland West - Valerie Margaret Allen (Conservative) - address in the Warrington North constituency (162 miles)

Utter fucking nonsense.

He said that people should have used their common sense to get out of a burning building. Thats a perfectly reasonably point of view, he didn't say 'it doesn't matter as they're all thick foreigners and darkies', he said people should get out of burning buildings no matter what someone says to them because its common friggin sense. Disabled people have a challenge with that of course but even then, if it is possible to get out then do so.

Of course we get the lovie lefties like yourself saying that he should be castrated for saying such a terrible, atrocious thing but the faux anger for no other reason than he's conservative and not a raving corbynite is getting very tedious.

The day Rees Mogg said it a bloke posted a video from inside the Tower he couldn’t have got out and said the comments were offensive. The corridors where pitch black and absolutely engulfed in this toxic smoke.

The people who died had no chance to imply they might have survived if they applied more common sense is horrific.

Utter fucking nonsense my arse.

Some of them would have survived. As it was all those who stayed put perished.

If there were not so many corners cut when this and other similar buildings were refurbished by a Tory controlled council and others restricted by government council budget cuts and non existent design reviews of the architectural changes to these buildings then maybe, just maybe there should have been fire doors and the correct cladding installed during the refurbishments then undoubtably the instructions to remain would have prevented so many deaths. The instructions from the fire service would have been the same standard instructions for other high rise buildings which would have complied with building regulations

I don't disagree with that but it's wrong to suggest that it's only Tory councils. This type of cladding was throughout the country and in areas of all sorts of councils. It's likely that it wasn't a priority because no one considered that something like this would happen. Straight away you have the likes of Diane Abacus on tv blaming Theresa May personally. A disgraceful attempt to use this for political capital.

I'd have thought that by now you'd have realised why you have so little empathy and would, therefore, at least have the intelligence to think, 'should I really be saying this'?

It seems it’s wrong to give an opinion these days without the appropriate level of hand wringing.

No, more of an observation that some have the capacity for empathy while others don’t.

I have empathy Stuart, how can you not have when so many people perished in that inferno. I’ve carried people in the past who were very badly burned after coming off a burning ship so I know first hand what it looks and smells like.

On a more pragmatic level I see no value in tearing JRM to pieces for what was a perfectly sensible statement - you are safer out of fire than in it. However you have people making political statements and capital out of it which is far more disgusting than anything Jacob RM said.

Rees mogg is a grade A idiot and your ridiculous defence of him is even worse. Try to think how you would have viewed his statement had it been made by dianne Abbott. She wouldnt have been allowed to just disappear during the general election campaign. And he has disappeared. Made to by more sensible tories that can see the damage done.

Mogg was making a political statement man he was deflecting blame. It was the people’s fault for not using common sense it was the fire service for giving poor instructions. It wasn’t our fault on any level.

The tory election pitch

" Yes, the prison service has collapsed. And the probation service. And the courts. And the NHS. And social care. And schools. And libraries. So vote for us , the people who did that " - Johnson

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politi ... -interview

Maybe this is reason the polls are starting to close. This fella is an absolute tool.

As car crash interviews go, that will take some beating. The whole world must be laughing at us.

Polls closing? A sample of 1600!! Do me a favour.

It was one of four reported in the independent. Who knows eh? But there's hope for all decent human beings after all.

You Gov was six figure and showed a huge Boris majority. A small sample in Islington doesn’t give the same clarity.

Look I fear you are right ok. I just hope enough people see sense and any poll that shows the gap closing is music to my ears.

I was expecting you defend that johnson interview with andrew marr. Maybe even you cant then?

How did I call it wrong? I seem to remember that Theresa May continued as PM despite not turning up to campaign.

As for this morning’s interview with Lefty Marr, I thought Boris did ok. What some of you simply cannot grasp is that mud does not stick to Boris and most of the country cannot support a Corbyn Commie government.

Oh I get it. Johnson has two target audiences . People with money and the thickets too dumb to see through him. Loveable bumbling boris the housewives choice. He can lie deflect duck hide and just evade questions and still they love him.

Imagine spending more than 10 seconds even beginning to think about voting for a chancer who holds you and people from your background with this much contempt;

https://amp.businessinsider.com/boris-j ... ssion=true

Nothing about the mans character or past makes him fit for any form of public office. Yet frighteningly he’s our Prime Minister.

Lefty Marr ! Really ?

Commie government Is that what constitutes wanting to make peoples lives better these days?

With those ridiculous views, anyone would think you had served in the Armed Forces

An utterly horrible man but like I have said above it makes no difference. He is the housewives choice. He could rape children across the UK and still they would vote for him. Thick as mince people I could just about understand but there are more than a few on here defending him and almost hero worshiping him.

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An utterly horrible man but like I have said above it makes no difference. He is the housewives choice.
i have no facts to back it up but i have always felt that the tories seem to appeal to female votors more than male ones especially in the north.

Seems to be working on the same principle as Aston 'Family Man' Barrett, bass player for The Wailers. Got his nickname when the others said he must be keen on families because he had so many of them.

I see Momentum have organised another railway strike. Is that what they mean by reducing fares?

What they will achieve is the destruction of this year's Christmas for hundreds, maybe thousands of families and, most notably, their children. The biggest railway strike in railway history, unless they can identify a bigger one they have caused.

Momentum actively bragging about their takeover of the labour party and the fact that they're getting rid of the moderates within it, calling them closet tories, neo liberals amongst other things.
Maybe these moderates will take the stance that if they are going to be continually accused of being tories they might as well join the real thing.

There are two things that I am constantly hearing from moderate, previous labour voters.
1 They will never vote for Corbyn.
2. If it means voting tory to get rid of him then so be it.

Personally I haven't gone as far as the second one but much more of being called tory and you never know. These constant jibes are definitely turning people. It's as if momentum want the labour moderates to vote tory. Any more of it and they will definitely get their wish.

If they want to brag about taking over the party and brag about getting rid of us then carry on but don't be surprised if we bite back.

After all we could always refer to it as tactical voting.

We get it you are threatening to vote Conservative. Thats your choice so why are you trying to hide it? You can go into as much detail as you like about Corbyn and Momentum but a point you seem to completely ignore is that none of us on here are responsible for either. And from what I have read very few of us are members of the labour party. Lets face it your so-called Labour MP has been doing a mightily good job for the tories recently.

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Momentum actively bragging about their takeover of the labour party and the fact that they're getting rid of the moderates within it,

There are two things that I am constantly hearing from moderate, previous labour voters.
1 They will never vote for Corbyn.
2. If it means voting tory to get rid of him then so be it.

this shows the problems the labour party have across the country. might be the type of labour party a lot want but the majority of the present day country do not want. was a supporter of michael foot back in the day but that worked our well didn,t it.

I'm not hiding it. I've just told you I am now considering it. I've told you the reason. What's hiding in that?
You've just put me a little closer to it and I've suggested before that you are a tory recruiting sergeant and now you're proving it.
Keep it going, you're doing a grand job.

Thank god we dont have PR just now. I would feel more guilty about my role in you becoming a tory whipping boy if we did.

Infact I think you should vote tory. It might help Labour get rid of the tory lite MP you have.

and now the IFS has warned that Boris Johnson's plans for local government are likely to mean further cuts to social care services. He is a card this fella isnt he?

Spot on Mr Accrington. Foot was a liability for the party, just like corbyn is now. But now the lunatics have been allowed to take over the asylum it is much more serious.

Ah Johnson's plans are only likely to cause further cuts, whereas labour's plans are going to destroy social care and the NHS and the railways and people's jobs and the utilities and royal mail etc etc etc. After labour have bankrupted the country there won't be any money left to spend on public services, including social care. Not to mention the massive queues of trade unionists lining up for more money from their mates. After all they'll need a bit more to spend on this extra day off after mr nice guy gives it to them.


You're still pushing the tory case aren't you.

Got any more strikes planned????

Do you get your copy of The Daily Mail delivered or do you have a walk to the paper shop to pick it up!?

Grotesque;

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ssion=true

Its all Labours fault as usual. Of course the tories had 9 years to change what had been decided before that, so it is fair to assume they had no issue with it, until there was an attack.

I don't read the Daily Mail and I certainly wouldn't buy it, just in case you can't work it out that means it doesn't get delivered and I certainly wouldn't waste my shoe leather or time on walking for it. It is about half a mile into the centre of our village. so if you are after borrowing it, sorry I can't help you. you will have to ask someone else.
Your question has got me thinking. When was the last time I bought a newspaper from our paper shop in person and when was the last time I had one delivered and which paper was it.??????????
The last paper I bought in person was The Green 'UN and that was after the last time we played Donny Rovers on a Saturday. That was when we nearly avoided the drop.
The last paper to be delivered was a copy of The Football Mail from Hartlepool. I came down here in !978 and immediately put an order in to the Mail Office to have it sent to me every week. That continued until it's demise, you'll have to look that up cos I can't be arsed.
I don't buy newspapers.
Funnily enough ( I think I have told you this before), every Tuesday I visit an elderly couple, both of whom are coming up ninety. They have a fairly large garden and used to be very keen gardeners but about five years ago, whilst they where having a Christmas drink round at ours, they mentioned how much of a struggle it had become and could I recommend anybody who would look after it for them.
I said I would do it until someone became available. I have been doing it ever since. They wanted to pay me but I refused to take anything and take great pleasure to be of help. I also take the lady to the supermarket because both their licenses have been withdrawn.
Anyway they take the Daily Mail and have done for as long as I have known them. It is there every Tuesday and I never pick it up unless he shows me something about Pools that's in it, which isn't very often.
Both of them vote labour and obviously have the same MP as me. So the Daily Mail doesn't influence their thinking.
Now then a question for you...............Do you also eat Camel Shite as well as talk it????

A simple neither would have saved you some time.

Derwent again there who doesn’t swear or insult people on here

You not trying to be smart arse would have saved time as well.
Do you think your head will ever come out of that burning sand????????
Are you coming home for Christmas or is Santa delivering you???
Some poor bastard is going to get a shock with you as a present.

I'm learning from you................but not very much

Being a smart arse have a read back at some of the stuff you say if you have 12 spare hours!

Obviously this is a very emotive subject but you seem far more sensitive to some posters than others. If I had just said half the stuff you had then about me I dread to think the way you’d react. Don’t preach what you can’t deliver.

Re arrange...............pot the black calling kettle the.

Find one example of me insulting you.

Every post is available to view. Go and find it.

Please don’t think it bothers I am just pointing out what you can’t obviously see and I find it really amusing.

Since June 2009 I have posted 6552 times
Since March 2013 PJ has posted 14751 times.
If you are keen on researching posts PJ, have a look at your own posts and count the number of times you have had a go at someone and, while you're at it count the number of posters who have stopped posting since March 2013.

Of course it doesn't bother you.



OH ME RIBS

I might as get one observation in while we’re at it.

Some of the stuff you have posted on here in recent weeks wouldn’t be out of place scrawled on the walls of solitary confinement cell in your own faeces. The ramblings of an absolute mad man.

Anyway let the thread continue that’s my last interaction with you.

There is the insulting post you were looking for but I have absolutely no doubt you will wriggle out of it.
You just don't know you're doing it. Get some help man, especially with anger management.
My faeces come out of my rectum whilst yours come out of your mouth.
You are the World's greatest example of someone who likes to dish it out but can't take it.
Now go and play the drama queen if you wish.