haha so it does, I'd never seen that one, just the bus!!

The comedy show continues. Daniel Hannan pulled up on newsnight and states we cannot control immigration and movement of labour.

Today Boris states he wants free movement of labour and access to the single market, otherwise known as membership of the European Union. Best not bother invoking Article 50 lads especially just to piss off Francoise Hollande who says our referendum decision is irreversible. Guess he doesn't understand our constitution about referendum either.

It's so much of a mess it's like The Thick of It on acid

Why don`t people quietly disappear into the night, people disagree on politics and religion, wars start with it, it`s a message board ffs, either read or don`t and you will read it still, you know you will, but sign in as private so we don`t know

Whats being completely lost here are the social issues and environmental issues.

Does anyone actually believe these will be protected under a bunch of raboid tories with a free reign to do whatever they like?

I think Boris has had a major shock to his plans. And unless he unites three quarters of the disaffected tories he will be a dead man walking.

Whats funniest of all though is that Farage actually has an opinion? Who the fuck is he? He has no power, very few supporters and wields no strength whatsoever in government.

My issue is that Chip has made his point over and over again and anybody who remotely disagrees with, either his views or the repetitive nature of them, gets attacked. His reply to me accused me of being a racist. Now I genuinely haven't a clue what post on facebook he is referring too and would love him to raise it. What I find funny though is that Chip Fireball read a racist remark by me, allegedly, and didn't respond to it and yet he states that he can't just sit back and ignore racist remarks. He could have contacted me privately to confirm or otherwise as to whether my facebook post was racist. I don't know what the word racist means anymore as it is used too easily and readily. On Friday I overheard one guy say to another "if you voted out you are a racist" and I've seen people on facebook saying the same thing. Crazy.
The funny thing is that if the general knee jerk reaction to the vote is overturned and we do well out of the EU, Chip will be taking the credit, bless him. LOL.
As to you, Mr Colonel....if anything I've said has offended you then I apologise, as I didn't intend any offence. I am surprised however that you didn't say anything at the time, or have I missed that?

Sorry John but have to disagree. That slogan is a suggestion not a commitment in my opinion.
A commitment would be something like "If we are successful in getting out of the EU we will give the money we previously gave to the EU directly to the NHS"
I never once took "Lets" as a commitment and was surprised that people did. Susannah Reid, for example, ranted and raved at silly bugger Farage ( who I personally can't abide). Farage isn't a member of parliament, isn't in government and hopefully never will be. So anything he appears to promise can't be taken seriously. The present Conservative Government is in power and therefore it is up to them to decide where the money goes.
There were lies, spinning and multi skulduggery from both sides as there always is where politicians are involved.
Opinions eh!!!!

I don't think voting leave makes you a racist but I do think a lot of the out voters are undeniably racist, especially and sadly in this part of the country. I think a lot of people have also voted out knowing hardly anything about or basing very little on our membership of the EU which makes a mockery of the entire referendum.

For 70% if voters to vote leave in Hartlepool largely based on immigration is cringeworthy and embarrassing. We have a very small immigrant population in the Town it isn't an issue at all here so it leads you to believe that some of these people are a bit thick and at best a bit blinkered. It's frightening that our children's futures have been allowed to be shaped by people like this.

Mr Derwent I wasnt offended, and actually took your point on board as I agreed it was unnecessary.

What irked me though was that it seemed you saw myself and Poolie mad as doing the same, when infact it was just him picking me up on any and every post. And half the time I didnt respond. I ignored him, which is the best way.

As for Chip, I think he was right and entitled to pick this fella up on what he was saying, as it was clearly personal, and needed addressing. He even started calling him by his real name.

I hate this sort of thing, and the bloke clearly dislikes Chip, and thinks posting on a message board like that gets his pecker up.

My favourite soup is........ NO soup

Can I just add that if I haven't said anything to insult Mr Colonel then I too apologise.

What is absolutely sickening is that someone like Peter Owens gets exactly the same voting rights as you or I.

Of course all of the people voting leave are not racist, but its fair to say a lot of them must be incredibly gullible.

Whether the NHS CASH was a pledge or not, it was taken as a pledge by a lot of people, as were the fake promoses on immigration.

There is a lot more to this decision than financial or immigration reasons. The world is a lot smaller now than it was when the over 65s were young. The younger generation are generally inclusive, and see other countries as their neighbours and want to feel like they are friends.

The vote has closed a lot offreedom off for the young, and the next generations. Its created ill feeling abroad that was not needed, and just makes the UK all tarred with the little englander brush.

Being inclusive should be a decision for good, not based on stupid fears of being overrun by muslims, turks, and Poles.

Its a very sad week for all of us that see the world for what it is, and not something that makes us want to hang out the Union jack, and pull up the draw bridge. Not unless we ship out the Peter Owens of this world first.

Can I add, if I have said anything that hasn`t insulted you, I will try harder in future!

Is it another 13 pages of debate on the same points? This has become a seriously repetitive thread.

I believe the EU referendum was flawed, the result not clear enough, and dangerous to the future of the UK.

I give you the following reasons for this:

1. It wasnt a general election where a protest vote might be needed, yet strangely is rarley used.

2. It wasnt a simple decision about turning left or turning right.

3. It was a vote to do nothing or do something very very radical. This was never properly explained to more simple amongst the population.

4. It was used, many people have admitted to it, as a protest vote against the political class, to the government, even though the governement had more people backing Brexit than any other party, it was a case of sticking it to the man.

5. Brexit isnt a politcal party. There is no politcal party that agrees with it. Not a serious one anyway.

6. The two reasons most voted leave were the NHS and immigration, based on promises given, now already back tracked on.

7. Without political will there will never be a solution to the exit, not for a very long time.

8. Who is going to make it happen? Force it to happen? I havent heard a leave voter actually explain this to me. So we have a referendum that has voted leave, but who in power really believes it? I suspect Boris doesnt.

9. The vote has split generations like no other election ever has. This makes the decision extremely dangerous. The young are absolutely furious with their grand parents and their generation. All respct for the older peoplehas gone. I suspect the young will never forgive them.

10. Scotland may well leave the UK, as might Northern Ireland. Without them, Englands so called psoitive econmoy will be devastated. This is very likely to happen.

11. Northern Ireland is a scary situation. A lrage chunk of NI now wants a united Ireland, and reamin in the EU. This will cause massive friction, and this will lead to one thing and one thing only. A retrun to the troubles, and that trouble will return to our shores. Its something the leave campaign will have to liev with, as their will be blood on their hands.

12. If there was a second vote now, the leave decision would lose masisvely. That is very telling, and shows that having one vote at one time, based on lies and false promises, when people dont really understand the situation, is very dangerous.

13. The country is in political meltdown. Farage must be pissing himself laughing.

14. Chris Grailling, this morning, a leave campaigner, said on the news, the governemnt will now get together to decide its strategy for going to the EU to negotiate its withdrawel. Thus proving there was never a strategy in place to start with. Yet millions voted for it. So what did they vote for?

I would like someone who voted leave to give a comprehensive list of facts that prove it was a good choice.

No it hasn't

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Maybe if someone could post something logical about why leaving is a great result then it wouldnt be so repetitive.

There hasnt been one person that has doen that yet. Care to take up the reins?

The electorate has spoken. You lost the vote, deal with it.

Yes but as we all know a lot of people have suddenly regretted that.

The electorate spoke a year ago too, and only around 40% voted tory, yet they got around 60% of the seats.

So when the electoate speaks it doesnt mean anything if the politicians dont want to listen.

And who is going to make them listen?

Just so I know, can you tell me who won?

The leave campaign? Who are they then?

They arent the tories. They arent Labour. Nor the Lib Dems. They arent Scotland, or Northern Ireland.

They arent UKIP, as they dont represent anyone.

So who has won?

You know the election rules and if all your remainers can't be bothered to get off their arse and vote then tough titty. As for the 'thick racists' who voted to leave; we have the same right to a vote as you.

Oh, and don't go trying to muddy the waters with only x% of the population voted out. The rules of democracy work like this:

Everyone of age and qualification can vote, to do or not to do is the individuals choice.
Those who do cast their vote for the preferred candidate / decision.
The highest percentage of the cast votes in that constituency wins the seat / the vote goes towards the total in a referendum.
The highest number of seats in a general election or votes in a referendum wins.
If people didn't bother to vote then they have no justification to whinge about the result.

do your own friggin research. When did I become your joey?

You werent told?

An Englishman, Irishman and a Scotsman walk into a bar.

The Englishman wanted to leave so they all had to go.

You forgot the Welshman.

Wonder why?

Surely there was a welshman there showing way more passion than the rest?

But the reason they all had to go was that the Englishman always bought all the drinks and they couldn't afford a round without him.

Its beginning to look like that englishman will be running out of money very quickly.

Especially if he banked with Barclays.

It seems like we are well on the way back to the glorious 70's.

Will it be OK to buy records while we're there?

You make my teeth itch

Just talking to one of the Nurses caring for my Son . She is a Latvian and one of the most caring conscientious people looking after my Son.

She's obviously upset over the result of the referendum but the thing that concerned me the most is that she is actually SCARED about what's going to happen next.

These stories about idiots walking around telling people to get home "cos we won the referendum " are astounding and shameful in a Civilised Country.


I can't believe that some of you lot have the audacity to mention what happened during the war ..have we learned nothing from history?

I have a marvellously warm glow about our people just now.

I have never been more proud of the vest and gold chain wearing fat balding middle aged blokes going on tele telling us we have got our country back.

Its given me such a warm glow. Especially as the vote wasnt at all about immigration.

I don't have a race element in the referendum but I sure as hell do have a security worry. I'm over the moon that we're not going to be overwhelmed by the 'vermin' currently camped at Calais. I have no problem with decent hard working Polacks and Lithuanians but I sure as hell don't trust the Syrian, Iraqi, Afghanistan and Albanian hoards who have been invading Europe for the past year or so.

I just saw a bloke in a canoe off Seaton Beach............

Being in Europe actually stopped the hordes in Calais. If we leave The nice Mayor of Calais wants relocate the Jungle to Kent as a leaving present!

Why shouldnt he? I would if I were him.

Because he can't. We would stop ferries to France and reroute to Belgium.

Also he's a regional politician who has been told to wind his neck I. By Hollonde.

This is a great speech and Q & A by David Owen about Brexit (filmed prior to the referendum, which includes Chris Ship getting well and truly slapped down!).
I believe he would be a tremendous asset in our negotiations with the EU and I hope that they take advantage of someone with such vast experience of government and diplomacy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[yt]SWVO2d9Spks[/yt]

It's 'Lord Owen Gives Speech on Brexit' on YouTube

Let us know if u need help with YouTube links.

Evidently I need help

I went out with my brother in law on Saturday. A few frames of snooker, a curry, watching the games over a few pints. It's the kind of thing we do regularly. He is an experienced and highly qualified engineer (has a masters from Nottingham University). He was looking to start teacher training soon with the view to working in a secondary school in a deprived part of the city. Teaching physics and maths, which is really hard to recruit for.

He happens to be Spanish, and he is having 2nd thoughts about becoming a teacher now. Although he has lived in the UK about 10 years and has never been started on, he is expecting it now. We didn't get any shit when we were out but there's loads
of people who aren't 'British enough' who have. Even if the country doesn't actually leave, there's thousands of skilled workers like my brother in law who will. That's the saddest thing about the whole shambles. Fooked ourselves up the arse for the vanity and ambition of a handful of privileged MPs.

I was referring to politics hunky chunks.

Yet I bet you defend the Trade Union Bill that demands a sizeable turnout before a strike can be called?