born toulouse wrote:Virtually all your 'jokes' that mention homosexuality are homophobic, you even manged to include the ancient 'don't turn your back' trope that suggests gay men are a threat to straight men's arses. I can't see how anybody would see these attempts at humour any other way. Of course, some people do laugh at this sort of shite but that doesn't make it less homophobic.
And I'll be impressed if you can explain how a 'joke' based on how Chinese people speak English isn't racist. You could use that to help to explain racist jokes to somebody who wasn't familiar with the idea.
Truth is that you're just wilfully pretending you don't understand what you're doing because you do understand that saying, "Yes I'm racist and homophobic" would have repercussions.
I'm told you are a decent bloke in person but it is hard to believe give the stuff you post on here.
kevin pooles gloves wrote:Lighten up its just banter/crack.
Watch a few episodes of Love Thy Neighbour and you will realise that.
Spin it anutha way and u could say its cyber bullying against MButt. Quite a few on here seem to have an agenda against him.
Its nothing more than a message board to exchange banter n opinions.
Peace to all men.
Amen
born toulouse wrote:I accept that you get a lot of differences of opinion on a Forum and I've got no problem with arguing my point with anybody. Saying that offensive stuff is just crack or banter is complete bollocks though. People go on a joke thread expecting humour but Monkeybutt's threads regularly stray into mocking people with eating disorders and other mental illnesses, xenophobic steretyping and homophobia. The misogyny is almost constant. If somebody deliberately and persistently posts this way they can't really whine about other people having agendas.
If he was just a reactionary knobhead drivelling on to annoy people I'd ignore him, but he isn't. He's a board member of HUST and what he posts on here reflects on how serious they are about welcoming all Pools fans regardless of gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation etc. I'm not prepared to leave the trust because of this but I completely understand Yloop's decision and if they don't tell him to pack it in I'll probably have to reconsider.
born toulouse wrote:Still said he was on the website yesterday but maybe they've had a look at the stuff he posts on here and asked him to stop being a liability?
PJPoolie wrote:Maybe he’s making some fair points that you might consider taking on board, telling someone to ‘fuck off’ on a message board is a bit embarrassing to be honest and out of order I remember when this was the ‘no rarfs arms’ and people could disagree whilst having a bit of respect for each other.
You have said on numerous occasions that you have managed supermarkets and been in management positions in catering if you were still in those positions now in the real World some of the stuff you are willing to put online on a daily basis could easily see you sacked. Like it or not that is where the World has progressed to in 2019. Although the Trust is voluntary it’s still important it presents itself in a professional manner and is inclusive of everyone.
So are you no longer membership secretary and are no longer involved in the Trust? They need to update the website if not.
PJPoolie wrote:Maybe he’s making some fair points that you might consider taking on board, telling someone to ‘fuck off’ on a message board is a bit embarrassing to be honest and out of order I remember when this was the ‘no rarfs arms’ and people could disagree whilst having a bit of respect for each other.
You have said on numerous occasions that you have managed supermarkets and been in management positions in catering if you were still in those positions now in the real World some of the stuff you are willing to put online on a daily basis could easily see you sacked. Like it or not that is where the World has progressed to in 2019. Although the Trust is voluntary it’s still important it presents itself in a professional manner and is inclusive of everyone.
So are you no longer membership secretary and are no longer involved in the Trust? They need to update the website if not.
Monkeybutt wrote:
You're not even a trust member, just a bored house husband with a wooden spoon and an elevated opinion of yourself.
I like that you are part of the joke thread, like it's where you belong!
born toulouse wrote:Just got an email explaining that you've 'stepped down' thanks. Given the timing I take it you were asked to stop with the homophobia or resign from the board.
Good that your bigotry won't reflect on HUST anymore but a shame that you'll probably continue to parade it on here.
kevin pooles gloves wrote:Lighten up its just banter/crack.
Watch a few episodes of Love Thy Neighbour and you will realise that.
born toulouse wrote:I'm sure you were given a choice whether to stop with the offensive shite or step down. If it makes you feel better to pretend you suddenly decided to step down and nobody from HUST spoke to you about this feel free. Sad thing is that you could cut and paste shit jokes from around the internet without mocking anybody if you were just a bit more selective.
born toulouse wrote:I'm sure you were given a choice whether to stop with the offensive shite or step down. If it makes you feel better to pretend you suddenly decided to step down and nobody from HUST spoke to you about this feel free. Sad thing is that you could cut and paste shit jokes from around the internet without mocking anybody if you were just a bit more selective.
born toulouse wrote:It isn't self-righteous to point out that some of your 'jokes' aren't so much dodgy as nasty and based on horrible, outdated attitudes. Plenty of people have argued with you about this and you just reply with fuck off, if you don't like it don't look. You never apologise or say you can see somebody's point when it must pretty obvious that people have gay friends and relatives, or maybe know and love people who have been afflicted with mental illnesses, learning difficulties or eating disorders. Some people on the board might even be gay themselves but you never ease up.
Ultimately you've decided you'd rather step down from your role at the Trust than rein in the bigotry and mocking of the vulnerable. Your choice, but I'm tempted to ask: "Jesus what is wrong with you and the bigotry bollocks, you never stopped to think it might piss people off because it is hurtful and unnecessary?"
kevin pooles gloves wrote:The long distance Bunkerites r right chewy twats.
They must miss England Hartlepool big style.
But. We will. Never miss them.
PJ Poolie what a.wanker only comes on to stir the shit and pretend he's a Poolie. At heart.
Anyway gunna giv this a rest. till August if I'm allowed to log back in cos I'm not a backscrathing cocksucker.
born toulouse wrote:It isn't self-righteous to point out that some of your 'jokes' aren't so much dodgy as nasty and based on horrible, outdated attitudes. Plenty of people have argued with you about this and you just reply with fuck off, if you don't like it don't look. You never apologise or say you can see somebody's point when it must pretty obvious that people have gay friends and relatives, or maybe know and love people who have been afflicted with mental illnesses, learning difficulties or eating disorders. Some people on the board might even be gay themselves but you never ease up.
Ultimately you've decided you'd rather step down from your role at the Trust than rein in the bigotry and mocking of the vulnerable. Your choice, but I'm tempted to ask: "Jesus what is wrong with you and the bigotry bollocks, you never stopped to think it might piss people off because it is hurtful and unnecessary?"
born toulouse wrote:I'd say exactly what I've said on here to his face. On your other point, if he gives the shite a rest I'll stop pointing out that it is shite.
PJPoolie wrote:I don’t doubt that Mr Snowy, I have only seen a couple of clips to be fair one which from what must be the pilot where you see a removal van and the white bloke goes to introduce himself to the (white) bloke near the van to welcome him to the street and the bloke says ‘I’m not moving in mate I’m just a removal man they are’ as the camera pans to the black family then back to his face as he says with horror ‘awww my gawwwd’
Certainly ‘of its time’ which to be fair was nearly 50 years ago but can you imagine pitching that idea to a TV executive now![]()
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:The long distance Bunkerites r right chewy twats.
They must miss England Hartlepool big style.
But. We will. Never miss them.
PJ Poolie what a.wanker only comes on to stir the shit and pretend he's a Poolie. At heart.
Anyway gunna giv this a rest. till August if I'm allowed to log back in cos I'm not a backscrathing cocksucker.
tREE_wiTH_hAMStER wrote:Must admit I hadn't looked into this thread for a week or so.
nearly got the popcorn out.
Will be back.
Snowy wrote:It wasn’t that funny, but what people fail to notice about ‘Love the Neighbour’, is that the ‘racist’ white bloke always ended up looking a prick. The audience laughed at the racist bloke getting his comeuppance, they did laugh with him.
PJPoolie wrote:As as kid I enjoyed Alf Garnett I am not a prude or particularly PC I just take people as I find them generally. However I am not in favour of oaf like, ignorant bellend behavior though and reckon by 2019 it’s not too much to ask to not project yourself as a racist homophobic prick online, or a massive arsehole on most levels.
born toulouse wrote:It isn't self-righteous to point out that some of your 'jokes' aren't so much dodgy as nasty and based on horrible, outdated attitudes. Plenty of people have argued with you about this and you just reply with fuck off, if you don't like it don't look. You never apologise or say you can see somebody's point when it must pretty obvious that people have gay friends and relatives, or maybe know and love people who have been afflicted with mental illnesses, learning difficulties or eating disorders. Some people on the board might even be gay themselves but you never ease up.
Ultimately you've decided you'd rather step down from your role at the Trust than rein in the bigotry and mocking of the vulnerable. Your choice, but I'm tempted to ask: "Jesus what is wrong with you and the bigotry bollocks, you never stopped to think it might piss people off because it is hurtful and unnecessary?"
Monkeybutt wrote:My mother in law came round to my house in the middle of a storm at 3am, banging on the door. So I opened the door and she said "I've left your father, I need to stay here for a few days" I said " fine, no problem at all, stay there" and shut the door.
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