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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 5:47 pm 
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To be fair both sides could have nicked a goal and the 3 points.
We were dominant 1st half and Mancini had the RB beaten hands down with his pace a d trickery. We didn't give him enough of the ball to make more of it, or exploit the spaces made when they doubled up on him.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 6:26 pm 
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bobby lemonade wrote:
Must be frustrating for Mani, when the wingers came on it would have been playing to his strengths. Saying that I didn't think we played that badly, we had chances to win. I know I'll get shot down for saying that lol but hey ho


Don,t think you should get shot down, After all what did Smith have to do.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 1:39 am 
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bobby lemonade wrote:
Must be frustrating for Mani, when the wingers came on it would have been playing to his strengths. Saying that I didn't think we played that badly, we had chances to win. I know I'll get shot down for saying that lol but hey ho


All depends on how you define chances.
Easy.
Piss Easy
Difficult.
Very difficult.
Sitters.
Quality wing crosses :lol:

Id say the majority are in between difficult n very difficult.
We got a very unhappy front line being fedon basically nothing and most of the time they have to create their own chances.
2 bits of magic from Grey at Woking.

I cudent even bring me self to listen to Sarlys after match interview this time.

The talk talk needs converting into wins sharpish.
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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 6:41 am 
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At one time our managers were always being criticised for not making subs, Sarl made 5, did it change the game, did Pools create more chances, if we had won Sarl would have been called a tactical genius.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 7:09 am 
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Jamie1952 wrote:
At one time our managers were always being criticised for not making subs, Sarl made 5, did it change the game, did Pools create more chances, if we had won Sarl would have been called a tactical genius.


We didn't win n the subs had zero effect.
It's the tactics /system that is the problem.
Not the personnel on the pitch.

In the dressing room probably arguments galore.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:49 am 
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
At one time our managers were always being criticised for not making subs, Sarl made 5, did it change the game, did Pools create more chances, if we had won Sarl would have been called a tactical genius.


We didn't win n the subs had zero effect.
It's the tactics /system that is the problem.
Not the personnel on the pitch.

In the dressing room probably arguments galore.

we did look a bit more likely to score with the subs out wide who came on. taking our two goalscorers off put us back where we started. unless players have changed i,d imagine there will be a lot of talk out of sarlls ear amongst them and some piss taking about the bloke and any odd things he says or does. plus the club might have a dressing room mimic.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:28 am 
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I appreciate the grumbling of our present performances but our regular posters have been critisising the club regarding the number of managers and not giving them time. Yet here we are a new manager who most agree has assembled the strongest squad for some time has only lost one game out of the first seven and they are talking of him getting the sack.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:08 am 
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I appreciate the grumbling of our present performances but our regular posters have been critisising the club regarding the number of managers and not giving them time. Yet here we are a new manager who most agree has assembled the strongest squad for some time has only lost one game out of the first seven and they are talking of him getting the sack.

there has only been one manager in recent years i have wanted to see the back of was murray. however i feel sarll is at the moment not helping himself or us with the tactics being used. talk about sacking the bloke is really OTT but part of todays football where its always the manager or owners who get the stick first and the players second. really who was the last manager who changed things around with a squad they inherited plus a few signings apart from challinor.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:20 am 
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Assembling a squad is one thing, making it as effective as possible is another.
Sure they have only lost one but four home games with no wins and one goal scored is bound to ring alarm bells.
Then there is the disciplinary record.
The answer is in the manager's hands.
He has to do something before it comes out of his hands and into the owner's hands.
He keeps spouting meritocracy in relation to his players. It also applies to him and his performance.
It's the name of the game I'm afraid.
We'll see.

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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 11:16 am 
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accrington fan wrote:
Johnjo1 wrote:
I appreciate the grumbling of our present performances but our regular posters have been critisising the club regarding the number of managers and not giving them time. Yet here we are a new manager who most agree has assembled the strongest squad for some time has only lost one game out of the first seven and they are talking of him getting the sack.

there has only been one manager in recent years i have wanted to see the back of was murray. however i feel sarll is at the moment not helping himself or us with the tactics being used. talk about sacking the bloke is really OTT but part of todays football where its always the manager or owners who get the stick first and the players second. really who was the last manager who changed things around with a squad they inherited plus a few signings apart from challinor.


Vast majority of the squad is his own.
And that includes Fergy n Fevs who he offered new deals.
Add in the backing from Raj.
Previous managers would of worshipped the position Sarly is in now.

Still a no excuse season in my book where anywhere below 7th is Failure.

Results business not talk talk n hope.

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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 12:17 pm 
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What are the Heed doing that we are not - i dare say we have the much better team on paper. Counts for feck all like but see where i am coming from ? are the players all singing off the same hym sheet ? has DS lost the plot ? Still time and i think we need to be patient with the team as it will come together (needs to be soon like). Playing to Mani D and Mancini / Campbell strengths have to be our number 1 priority. Hes solved the midfield battle - hes solved the clean sheet and defence - sure with time hes now working on the front bit. Hes still new to the job and new to this team which hes assembled - sacking him his absolute bonkers talk, give your head a wobble if you think that man.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 1:03 pm 
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Depends how much catch up ya wanna play.
And when if the goals flow.
No guarantee the midfield n defence stays OK.

It's about results.
Wobbled me head and its still the same.
Highly interlectual. :lol:
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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 1:11 pm 
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accrington fan wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
At one time our managers were always being criticised for not making subs, Sarl made 5, did it change the game, did Pools create more chances, if we had won Sarl would have been called a tactical genius.


We didn't win n the subs had zero effect.
It's the tactics /system that is the problem.
Not the personnel on the pitch.

In the dressing room probably arguments galore.

we did look a bit more likely to score with the subs out wide who came on. taking our two goalscorers off put us back where we started. unless players have changed i,d imagine there will be a lot of talk out of sarlls ear amongst them and some piss taking about the bloke and any odd things he says or does. plus the club might have a dressing room mimic.


Sarl is rotating the squad like you would do in pre session friendless, some one needs to tell him we are playing for real now.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
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I think that comment is more than a little unfair. We have played virtually 9 of the same players every game. The changes have come about due to suspensions & injuries and new signings or players returning from injuries. Surely you do understand the basic rules about players returning from injuries and two very very serious injuries at that. Players need time to get up to fitness and need to build up game time and patience from everyone including the supporters. He then needs to gel the team and try to find the correct formula for succes. I am a little confused that a supporter of 65 yrs following the club would post such a strange message after only 7 games into a new season with a bundle of new players. The manager is still unable to choose from a fully fit squad. sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 4:16 pm 
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Leggie43 wrote:
I think that comment is more than a little unfair. We have played virtually 9 of the same players every game. The changes have come about due to suspensions & injuries and new signings or players returning from injuries. Surely you do understand the basic rules about players returning from injuries and two very very serious injuries at that. Players need time to get up to fitness and need to build up game time and patience from everyone including the supporters. He then needs to gel the team and try to find the correct formula for succes. I am a little confused that a supporter of 65 yrs following the club would post such a strange message after only 7 games into a new season with a bundle of new players. The manager is still unable to choose from a fully fit squad. sctatchinghead



Sarl subbed, Mani D, Grey and Featherstone at the W.E. none of whom were coming back from injuries and were all fit when subbed ?


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
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Apart from Maxine I thought the subs did ok especially the two wingers. The lad on loan looks a good signing although we have seen him for only half an hour and I hope he gets a start tomorrow. If so that’s when we get to thinking on formation and who to drop in which we will no doubt have different views.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
I think that comment is more than a little unfair. We have played virtually 9 of the same players every game. The changes have come about due to suspensions & injuries and new signings or players returning from injuries. Surely you do understand the basic rules about players returning from injuries and two very very serious injuries at that. Players need time to get up to fitness and need to build up game time and patience from everyone including the supporters. He then needs to gel the team and try to find the correct formula for succes. I am a little confused that a supporter of 65 yrs following the club would post such a strange message after only 7 games into a new season with a bundle of new players. The manager is still unable to choose from a fully fit squad. sctatchinghead



Sarl subbed, Mani D, Grey and Featherstone at the W.E. none of whom were coming back from injuries and were all fit when subbed ?


Subbed yes but isn't that why you have a bench to change things ? Fit when subbed I would say almost out of energy especially Feaths ? So what you are saying is don't make changes during games sctatchinghead Even Pep uses subs to change direction of games regardless wether they are fit or returning after injuries. It's a football thing :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 4:54 pm 
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We need to start winning.
That way the aftermatch opinions excuses should thin out a bit.

So far about 100% of bunkerites are short on the points predictions for this part of the season.

Now there's something we should all be agreeing that we underachieving or maybe not

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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:05 pm 
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
I think that comment is more than a little unfair. We have played virtually 9 of the same players every game. The changes have come about due to suspensions & injuries and new signings or players returning from injuries. Surely you do understand the basic rules about players returning from injuries and two very very serious injuries at that. Players need time to get up to fitness and need to build up game time and patience from everyone including the supporters. He then needs to gel the team and try to find the correct formula for succes. I am a little confused that a supporter of 65 yrs following the club would post such a strange message after only 7 games into a new season with a bundle of new players. The manager is still unable to choose from a fully fit squad. sctatchinghead



Sarl subbed, Mani D, Grey and Featherstone at the W.E. none of whom were coming back from injuries and were all fit when subbed ?


To be fair both Grey and ManiD have played just about every minute including 3 games with 10 men. Fev has also had more game time than most expected by now, so taking them off, not exactly a crime. Plus the strength of our bench on Saturday meant that they weren't exactly been swapped for kids.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
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Eiphos_3 wrote:
What are the Heed doing that we are not - i dare say we have the much better team on paper. Counts for feck all like but see where i am coming from ? are the players all singing off the same hym sheet ? has DS lost the plot ? Still time and i think we need to be patient with the team as it will come together (needs to be soon like). Playing to Mani D and Mancini / Campbell strengths have to be our number 1 priority. Hes solved the midfield battle - hes solved the clean sheet and defence - sure with time hes now working on the front bit. Hes still new to the job and new to this team which hes assembled - sacking him his absolute bonkers talk, give your head a wobble if you think that man.


Big week for him this week, i think he should be given time, but if we lose a couple of away games this week he might struggle to be in a job for much longer.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
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Here we go again criticising the club for sacking managers and talking about sacking one after a couple of months into the season.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
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Johnjo1 wrote:
Here we go again criticising the club for sacking managers and talking about sacking one after a couple of months into the season.


It's actually only 1 month tomorrow since we played the first game at Yeovil. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
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Johnjo1 wrote:
Here we go again criticising the club for sacking managers and talking about sacking one after a couple of months into the season.


Well if we go anutha 2 games without a win may be 1 then it will be the Chairman sacking the manager not people on here.

1 defeat sounds good.
2 wins only with this quality squad is very poor.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
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Think he's here for the longer term, yes we're underachieving and with a bit more discipline, luck, adventure we could quite easily have another 6 points or so. Let's face it if we had those points, regardless of the lack of quality football most would be happy.
We're not in a bad place at the moment and a 2 or 3 game winning run will put is in a decent position but if we lose 3 or 4 in a row then Raj will doubtless be sharpening the axe.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool United V Halifax Town
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Johnjo1 wrote:
Here we go again criticising the club for sacking managers and talking about sacking one after a couple of months into the season.


The club cant afford to lose 500 to 600 fans though, so if results dont pick up quickly raj will get shot, its not just results though the entertainment is non existent. Any manager with a forward line of manni d madine mancini campbell and joel grey who can only manage 1 goal at home is bound to come under pressure quickly and rightly so, we need to win the league. Not mess about thinking the lottery of play offs will be ok again.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Johnjo1 wrote:
Here we go again criticising the club for sacking managers and talking about sacking one after a couple of months into the season.


The club cant afford to lose 500 to 600 fans though, so if results dont pick up quickly raj will get shot, its not just results though the entertainment is non existent. Any manager with a forward line of manni d madine mancini campbell and joel grey who can only manage 1 goal at home is bound to come under pressure quickly and rightly so, we need to win the league. Not mess about thinking the lottery of play offs will be ok again.

might help more though if we managed to get some of those players playing together instead of substituting them for others. along with the new lad it surely would have been better to go for 3 points a game and risk losing only 1. remember if we are attacking and playing the game in the oppositions half their chances will be limited also. the saying of the best form of defence is attack has changed to the best form of attack is defence.


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