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 Post subject: Re: Brackley v Pools pridicto for Tuesday
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:52 pm 
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We were well beaten by a part time team who played with passion and motivation.


And organisation. Pools currently look passionate and motivated in brief bursts but organised? Never.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:15 pm 
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Events since the defeat at bottom club Ebbsfleet prove that the Ebbsfleet result was not a fluke. We are heading for a bottom four spot and I cannot see a new manager doing any more than KP did last season. In retrospect, not retaining KP was a huge blunder.

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 Post subject: Re: Brackley v Pools pridicto for Tuesday
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 12:37 am 
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His post match is one of the most deluded ever even by his standards…


Fans expectations are surreal
Hasn’t got the players who can take 1 chance and finish or have mentality to get ball first
Coached at premier league level (kids don’t count Darren)
Pools fans been through worse than this
It’s just the sort of run you get in any season
Players are behind him
Fighter from a council estate etc
Only been 14 games

I switch between being angry and sorry for him, way way out of his depth and repeating self affirmations to try and make himself feel better is painful to listen to

He has to be gone before the next home games or it will make the Sutton reception feel like a round of ‘happy birthday’


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 Post subject: Re: Brackley v Pools pridicto for Tuesday
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:10 am 
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loyal_fan wrote:

I switch between being angry and sorry for him, way way out of his depth and repeating self affirmations to try and make himself feel better is painful to listen to


I’ll keep it brief, I have no sympathy for him at all, so just FUCK RIGHT OFF! and ride out of town pronto on the horse you rode in on.

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 Post subject: Re: Brackley v Pools pridicto for Tuesday
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:16 am 
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Snowy wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:

I switch between being angry and sorry for him, way way out of his depth and repeating self affirmations to try and make himself feel better is painful to listen to


I’ll keep it brief, I have no sympathy for him at all, so just FUCK RIGHT OFF! and ride out of town pronto on the horse you rode in on.


Can we get away from its all Sarlys fault.
Who employed him,,!!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:42 am 
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Snowy wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:

I switch between being angry and sorry for him, way way out of his depth and repeating self affirmations to try and make himself feel better is painful to listen to


I’ll keep it brief, I have no sympathy for him at all, so just FUCK RIGHT OFF! and ride out of town pronto on the horse you rode in on.


Can we get away from its all Sarlys fault.
Who employed him,,!!

:angry-tappingfoot:

FFS get the priorities sorted, yes the clubs rotten but start by getting rid of Sarl first…or there won’t be even a shit club to complain about.

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 Post subject: Re: Brackley v Pools pridicto for Tuesday
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:59 am 
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Snowy wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:

I switch between being angry and sorry for him, way way out of his depth and repeating self affirmations to try and make himself feel better is painful to listen to


I’ll keep it brief, I have no sympathy for him at all, so just FUCK RIGHT OFF! and ride out of town pronto on the horse you rode in on.


Can we get away from its all Sarlys fault.
Who employed him,,!!

:angry-tappingfoot:


More so who recommended him !


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 Post subject: Re: Brackley v Pools pridicto for Tuesday
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:53 am 
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But it is 100% Sarlls fault isn't it? He picks the team, dictates tactics and substitutions, etc.
The priority and it's urgent is to change the manager.
Talk of restarting as a phoenix club is ridiculous, the claim that our fanbase will get us back to efl level quickly is fantasy, what club has actually ever achieved that?


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 Post subject: Re: Brackley v Pools pridicto for Tuesday
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:27 am 
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PTID wrote:
But it is 100% Sarlls fault isn't it? He picks the team, dictates tactics and substitutions, etc.
The priority and it's urgent is to change the manager.
Talk of restarting as a phoenix club is ridiculous, the claim that our fanbase will get us back to efl level quickly is fantasy, what club has actually ever achieved that?


We currently are probobly around darlos standard that is some sort of joke really, considering they have to plead for money off fans. I dont think starting again is a great idea but i tell you what its getting to the point where it cant get much worse. Lets face it we dont even know what this chairman wants back yet. That will probobly cripple the club too.


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 Post subject: Re: Brackley v Pools pridicto for Tuesday
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:25 am 
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Flying Hogans wrote:
Double Figures wrote:
We were well beaten by a part time team who played with passion and motivation.


And organisation. Pools currently look passionate and motivated in brief bursts but organised? Never.

and turning back the clock where we conceeded goals from corners and a long throw in. cannot get his favourite goaless draws anymore.


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 Post subject: Re: Brackley v Pools pridicto for Tuesday
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:46 am 
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Football is such an unpredictable game & one that proves very few of us have any clue about it. Heading in to the Hartley L2 season it was so obviously clear it was going to be a shocker, given the recruitment policy of Scottish players and the fact pre season had been a shambles (no recognised striker, not enough players to fill training etc). Even then, we nearly salvaged it with the likes of Kemp & Jennings being smart acquisitions alongside Askey who had made a decent fist of it. But it was grossly apparent that that season was going to start poorly.

Heading in to this season, there was universal clamour for the way that Darren Sarll spoke & his appointment. FINALLY, we had a manager who was going to make Pools horrible & nasty & all about picking up points. We even spoke about him in the same breath as Mr Challinor. Everybody was happy with the recruitment. We rejoiced at the opening few games where we won or drew ugly - 'points win prizes etc'. We flew to the top of the poor discipline charts. All in, nobody seemed to have any complaints. In fact, people were happy despite the fact performances were poor.

Unfortunately, playing shite & scraping points will only carry you so far. What's unfolded is beyond belief really, last night being the pinnacle of that. Players were going through the motions, arguing, not responding to direction from the sidelines. Based on some of the defending last night, where the likes of Sass-Davies & Parkes got turned inside out, there will be no quick fix. Feaths started the season as a back-up & a newly appointed coach, but yet again, finds himself the ever present feature of our midfield. I rate him, some of his passing is superb, but we've recruited a series of new centre mids and it is still a case of which one we pair with Feaths!

I thought we had a strong squad for this season but I'm second guessing that now, we look so poor. But yet, it feels sort of self inflicted. Sarll is clearly stuck between two ways of playing, where he talks about 'letting go' and allowing the likes of Dodds to get in behind, or tightening up and keeping a retreated back line & long balls. He talks of consistency, but we're 14 games in and we've not seen a single bit of it in performance, line up or tactic. There has been the comedic value of Lennie L joining him in the dugout too. Seriously. What other football club (or self-respecting manager!) but Pools would have an 80+ year old advisor ready and waiting to be subbed on to the bench to assist the manager. It is farcical. Throw in a non-existent board and a Ronnie Moore shaped ghost - and the whole thing royally stinks. This isn't new though, Pools have been providing hilarious football anecdotes & stories since DC left - i'm including the hire / fire of Kevin Phillips in that too. The standards are on the floor.

Pools need to find a way to stop the managerial merry go round but Sarll has been the most toxic appointment since Scotty & it really is time for him to go. It's not just the poor performances & points total, but the attitudes towards the fans & press that means he doesn't have the beauty of being able to buy more time with the paying fans. It's not just a dislike of the football, it's a dislike of the full regime & how the bloke is carrying himself, which feels like an irretrievable place to be. Time to sack him, but as ever, time to seriously look a little deeper at the mess that is Pools at the moment.


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 Post subject: Re: Brackley v Pools pridicto for Tuesday
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:58 am 
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normally you have to reach rock bottom before you see improvements. thing his pools have done all that before or have they. might have to do a york, scunthorpe or stockport before the penny really drops with everyone concerned with the club.


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 Post subject: Re: Brackley v Pools pridicto for Tuesday
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:10 am 
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thebigdog wrote:
. There has been the comedic value of Lennie L joining him in the dugout too. Seriously. What other football club (or self-respecting manager!) but Pools would have an 80+ year old advisor ready and waiting to be subbed on to the bench to assist the manager. It is farcical.


It's obvious that LL was personally invested in the appointment of Sarll and desperate for him not to fail. If his "interim" role in charge of "managerial duties" lasts more than a week that will be another indictment of the way our club is being run. He should be out the door himself as soon as a proper manager is appointed.


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 Post subject: Re: Brackley v Pools pridicto for Tuesday
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:15 am 
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Flying Hogans wrote:
thebigdog wrote:
. There has been the comedic value of Lennie L joining him in the dugout too. Seriously. What other football club (or self-respecting manager!) but Pools would have an 80+ year old advisor ready and waiting to be subbed on to the bench to assist the manager. It is farcical.


It's obvious that LL was personally invested in the appointment of Sarll and desperate for him not to fail. If his "interim" role in charge of "managerial duties" lasts more than a week that will be another indictment of the way our club is being run. He should be out the door himself as soon as a proper manager is appointed.

we were just the same though. no single fan wanted him to fail and nobody moaned when he was appointed. if sarll had of succeeded LL would have been seen in a much different light as a club saviour.


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 Post subject: Re: Brackley v Pools pridicto for Tuesday
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Flying Hogans wrote:
thebigdog wrote:
. There has been the comedic value of Lennie L joining him in the dugout too. Seriously. What other football club (or self-respecting manager!) but Pools would have an 80+ year old advisor ready and waiting to be subbed on to the bench to assist the manager. It is farcical.


It's obvious that LL was personally invested in the appointment of Sarll and desperate for him not to fail. If his "interim" role in charge of "managerial duties" lasts more than a week that will be another indictment of the way our club is being run. He should be out the door himself as soon as a proper manager is appointed.


Totally agree. What a mess, ey.


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 Post subject: Re: Brackley v Pools pridicto for Tuesday
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we were just the same though. no single fan wanted him to fail and nobody moaned when he was appointed. if sarll had of succeeded LL would have been seen in a much different light as a club saviour.


Of course some of us moaned when he was appointed! banghead banghead The treatment of Kevin Philips was a disgrace and it was obvious that someone was responsible for a major swerve behind the scenes. At the time people guessed that it was that Perason bloke but it has become obvious that it was Lenny Lawrence's call.

Come pre-season the only option for any genuine Pools fan not prepared to boycott the club was to get behind the new gaffer and hope for the best. That's what I did and I said as much on here at the time.


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 Post subject: Re: Brackley v Pools pridicto for Tuesday
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Flying Hogans wrote:
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we were just the same though. no single fan wanted him to fail and nobody moaned when he was appointed. if sarll had of succeeded LL would have been seen in a much different light as a club saviour.


Of course some of us moaned when he was appointed! banghead banghead The treatment of Kevin Philips was a disgrace and it was obvious that someone was responsible for a major swerve behind the scenes. At the time people guessed that it was that Perason bloke but it has become obvious that it was Lenny Lawrence's call.

Come pre-season the only option for any genuine Pools fan not prepared to boycott the club was to get behind the new gaffer and hope for the best. That's what I did and I said as much on here at the time.

phillips contract was up and not renued. could argue both ways whether that was a correct decision. must admit it was a bit of a shock for me when he wasn,t retained and again we,d have been no worse off giving him the job for this season.


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 Post subject: Re: Brackley v Pools pridicto for Tuesday
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:58 am 
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Flying Hogans wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
we were just the same though. no single fan wanted him to fail and nobody moaned when he was appointed. if sarll had of succeeded LL would have been seen in a much different light as a club saviour.


Of course some of us moaned when he was appointed! banghead banghead The treatment of Kevin Philips was a disgrace and it was obvious that someone was responsible for a major swerve behind the scenes. At the time people guessed that it was that Perason bloke but it has become obvious that it was Lenny Lawrence's call.

Come pre-season the only option for any genuine Pools fan not prepared to boycott the club was to get behind the new gaffer and hope for the best. That's what I did and I said as much on here at the time.

Rumours at the time were that Phillip's relied a lot on Lawrence and he didn't like that. Issue was, he was his assistant manager what else are they there for?
We've done this twice now, where we have a manager who has done pretty well with other manager's players (Lee and Phillips), binned them at the end of the season and royally fucked up the next appointment. Luckily it seems with 1 or 2 additions this squad could still get into the playoffs if we get this next appointment right.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:17 am 
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Krampesh wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
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we were just the same though. no single fan wanted him to fail and nobody moaned when he was appointed. if sarll had of succeeded LL would have been seen in a much different light as a club saviour.


Of course some of us moaned when he was appointed! banghead banghead The treatment of Kevin Philips was a disgrace and it was obvious that someone was responsible for a major swerve behind the scenes. At the time people guessed that it was that Perason bloke but it has become obvious that it was Lenny Lawrence's call.

Come pre-season the only option for any genuine Pools fan not prepared to boycott the club was to get behind the new gaffer and hope for the best. That's what I did and I said as much on here at the time.

Rumours at the time were that Phillip's relied a lot on Lawrence and he didn't like that. Issue was, he was his assistant manager what else are they there for?
We've done this twice now, where we have a manager who has done pretty well with other manager's players (Lee and Phillips), binned them at the end of the season and royally fucked up the next appointment. Luckily it seems with 1 or 2 additions this squad could still get into the playoffs if we get this next appointment right.


I don't hold with rumours as there's very little verifiable evidence that they're ever right.

The KP episode is history now - it didn't take him long to get back into NL management and I wish him all the best, except when his side is playing Pools. Same goes for Spike.

Sarll's ability to bullshit about his record and take in the gullible is shot to pieces. All it ever amounted to was being eliminated from the NL play-offs twice in the first knock out round. Next stop the Isthmian League - if he's very lucky :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:36 am 
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Flying Hogans wrote:
Krampesh wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
we were just the same though. no single fan wanted him to fail and nobody moaned when he was appointed. if sarll had of succeeded LL would have been seen in a much different light as a club saviour.


Of course some of us moaned when he was appointed! banghead banghead The treatment of Kevin Philips was a disgrace and it was obvious that someone was responsible for a major swerve behind the scenes. At the time people guessed that it was that Perason bloke but it has become obvious that it was Lenny Lawrence's call.

Come pre-season the only option for any genuine Pools fan not prepared to boycott the club was to get behind the new gaffer and hope for the best. That's what I did and I said as much on here at the time.

Rumours at the time were that Phillip's relied a lot on Lawrence and he didn't like that. Issue was, he was his assistant manager what else are they there for?
We've done this twice now, where we have a manager who has done pretty well with other manager's players (Lee and Phillips), binned them at the end of the season and royally fucked up the next appointment. Luckily it seems with 1 or 2 additions this squad could still get into the playoffs if we get this next appointment right.


I don't hold with rumours as there's very little verifiable evidence that they're ever right.

The KP episode is history now - it didn't take him long to get back into NL management and I wish him all the best, except when his side is playing Pools. Same goes for Spike.

Sarll's ability to bullshit about his record and take in the gullible is shot to pieces. All it ever amounted to was being eliminated from the NL play-offs twice in the first knock out round. Next stop the Isthmian League - if he's very lucky :wink:



Next stop Asda shelf stacking. :laugh:


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Leggie43 wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
Krampesh wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
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we were just the same though. no single fan wanted him to fail and nobody moaned when he was appointed. if sarll had of succeeded LL would have been seen in a much different light as a club saviour.


Of course some of us moaned when he was appointed! banghead banghead The treatment of Kevin Philips was a disgrace and it was obvious that someone was responsible for a major swerve behind the scenes. At the time people guessed that it was that Perason bloke but it has become obvious that it was Lenny Lawrence's call.

Come pre-season the only option for any genuine Pools fan not prepared to boycott the club was to get behind the new gaffer and hope for the best. That's what I did and I said as much on here at the time.

Rumours at the time were that Phillip's relied a lot on Lawrence and he didn't like that. Issue was, he was his assistant manager what else are they there for?
We've done this twice now, where we have a manager who has done pretty well with other manager's players (Lee and Phillips), binned them at the end of the season and royally fucked up the next appointment. Luckily it seems with 1 or 2 additions this squad could still get into the playoffs if we get this next appointment right.


I don't hold with rumours as there's very little verifiable evidence that they're ever right.

The KP episode is history now - it didn't take him long to get back into NL management and I wish him all the best, except when his side is playing Pools. Same goes for Spike.

Sarll's ability to bullshit about his record and take in the gullible is shot to pieces. All it ever amounted to was being eliminated from the NL play-offs twice in the first knock out round. Next stop the Isthmian League - if he's very lucky :wink:



Next stop Asda shelf stacking. :laugh:

no chance. he,d put all the tins at the back of the shelf and put the others in the wrong place but tell em he is right and not them. you,d think he would be impossible for him to get any job but he certainly will even if its lower down in the game. once you are in football you have a job for life in some capacity if you want it.


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