Hartlepool United V Halifax Town

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3688

We can’t overstate how shite the opposition has been so far either, another couple of turkeys coming up as well

Halifax are bang average , with an excuse they have a small budget and are probably the best team we have played so far

Play like that at home to likes of Gateshead York, rochdale and Barnet etc and it will turn nasty for Sarll very quickly

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4374

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

I think Mutleys called it a correct.
A Fraud n gone in mid Autumn.
Feel for Raj big style n everyone knows I'm not his biggest fan.
Can see Fevs being next manager.
UTP.

The chairman got his finger out finally and gave us and is giving us half decent players and he has had to witness this turgid shit. Jesus Gateshead top of the league, a team fans said no one would go too. We have never had an easier set of fixtures ever at the start of a season and we have completely wasted them. We should be sat top of this league with the players we have not pissing about drawing with the braintrees and weldstones, then making excuses up as to why we didnt beat them.

No excuses this week i wanna see us win twice and win well at that. Becoming a joke how we are ruining a 25 goal striker from last year, making mancini look bang average and campbell who was promoted look poor. Sort it out sarl the honeymoon is over.

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3688

Exactly our best players are not being used, the same with Grey
There has to be a way to play that tightens up
The defence without this anti football shite he’s resorting too

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4374

Whats the point in hoofball if your forwrds have no one running onto it. Utterly pointless.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8901

Leggie43 wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

harrogatepoolie wrote:

thebigdog wrote:

Ugly ugly style of football. Non-existent midfields with Sheron, Slogget and Hunter virtually invisible but bypassed by long channel balls from defence and keeper. Hoof ball & wasteful passage after passage of play when in decent positions to play a simple pass. Sarll tells us he loves how ‘dynamic’ his midfielders are but what is ‘dynamic’ about a narrow hoofed ball in to your forward, played from your centre back or full back?

You’ve got some of the best players we’ve had in years going 20 mins in games without touching the football. There’s no attacking rhythm to how we play. Remember DC… high press, balls into the midfield, balls out wide and fizzed in for the forwards to attack. We are playing home games like we are away from home. Mancini was on fire yet got hooked. Sarll needs to find a way to get the best out of his flair players, otherwise what’s the point is signing a south London trained tricky footballer from Crystal Palace. So few moments where wingers isolate full backs and get a yard to whip a ball in. It’s all central long balls to

Madine or Mani where we hope and will for something to come off. That’s not attacking patterns of play, that’s just crap.

Sapping the living soul out of the ground and making good players look average, crowds dropping as the entertainment barely covers half the entry cost. There is a lot of work to be done or he’s going to be put on the Poolie managerial scrap heap and I genuinely believed (and still hope and actually think he will!) he is the man to carry us forward. I’m sure Sarll will have some media spin to put on it in relation to the clean sheets but I’m sorry the last 3 home games have been turgid watches and Raj has not financed this team to finish mid table. Given the strength of the team - of which there is genuine quality this year - there needs to be a lot more from us and that starts by being braver in both halves of the pitch. Defensively sound but who genuinely wants to watch a home game where your talismanic striker doesn’t have a single shot in vain.

Frustration from the main man Mani D said it all. SORT IT OUT!

Well done big dog it had to be said. I will give him till the end of Sep but just can’t see it. No way can we make the playoffs playing like this. I want to be entertained.

Excellent assessment of how it is.
Our eyes ain't pickled onions.
But not to many now have pickled brains.

Are we still Gunna win the league.
bbolt

Only s o c c e r!

I am genuinely confused as to why we don't play football at home by playing the ball on the floor with quick passing and good movement. Despite my belief in D.S. I have to admit he has all the tools to destroy teams at the Vic but keeps on shying away from playing proper attacking football. It would have worked out better to have won 2 and lost 2 ( 6 points ) at home by playing attacking football. I also seen the understandable reaction from Mani D when he came off. We all know he isn't like that so he is pissed off big style. He is mega popular in the dressing room and on the terraces, it will be interesting to hear what D.S. says but that alone could be the final nail in the coffin for D.S. Raj will not want ManiD losing his goals because that could drop his value by a lot in January. Away from home this system being used is perfect for me because we should be 3 wins from the 3 games so no problem being boring away. My heart says give D.S. until end of September to change results because it is still extremely early. But my head says the ManiD thing plus lack of football points to the sack if we don't win next two games. Pressure is here and building and I cannot keep defending D.S. he needs to show he is versatile with his tactics and switched on to manage this great club.

Anutha fair assessment.
We ain't mugs.
I think he's gone Wednesday.
Boston on a good run lately.

We need an FA Cup run for Raj to get some investment back.
He didn't back Sarly for these crowds.
Makes you wonder if binning KP comes back to haunt him.
Hindsight hey!

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3688

Binning Askey was the mistake in hindsight, imo

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6651

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

harrogatepoolie wrote:

thebigdog wrote:

Ugly ugly style of football. Non-existent midfields with Sheron, Slogget and Hunter virtually invisible but bypassed by long channel balls from defence and keeper. Hoof ball & wasteful passage after passage of play when in decent positions to play a simple pass. Sarll tells us he loves how ‘dynamic’ his midfielders are but what is ‘dynamic’ about a narrow hoofed ball in to your forward, played from your centre back or full back?

You’ve got some of the best players we’ve had in years going 20 mins in games without touching the football. There’s no attacking rhythm to how we play. Remember DC… high press, balls into the midfield, balls out wide and fizzed in for the forwards to attack. We are playing home games like we are away from home. Mancini was on fire yet got hooked. Sarll needs to find a way to get the best out of his flair players, otherwise what’s the point is signing a south London trained tricky footballer from Crystal Palace. So few moments where wingers isolate full backs and get a yard to whip a ball in. It’s all central long balls to

Madine or Mani where we hope and will for something to come off. That’s not attacking patterns of play, that’s just crap.

Sapping the living soul out of the ground and making good players look average, crowds dropping as the entertainment barely covers half the entry cost. There is a lot of work to be done or he’s going to be put on the Poolie managerial scrap heap and I genuinely believed (and still hope and actually think he will!) he is the man to carry us forward. I’m sure Sarll will have some media spin to put on it in relation to the clean sheets but I’m sorry the last 3 home games have been turgid watches and Raj has not financed this team to finish mid table. Given the strength of the team - of which there is genuine quality this year - there needs to be a lot more from us and that starts by being braver in both halves of the pitch. Defensively sound but who genuinely wants to watch a home game where your talismanic striker doesn’t have a single shot in vain.

Frustration from the main man Mani D said it all. SORT IT OUT!

Well done big dog it had to be said. I will give him till the end of Sep but just can’t see it. No way can we make the playoffs playing like this. I want to be entertained.

Excellent assessment of how it is.
Our eyes ain't pickled onions.
But not to many now have pickled brains.

Are we still Gunna win the league.
bbolt

Only s o c c e r!

Belive we do have time to win the league,But not under Snarll.
Its not hoof ball, It was known at school as "Kick and Rush"

When we get the ball down and play, We can play.
Said it before, This squad is capable, The tactics are not, And are designed not to lose.

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5364

Well here's the thing. In the Millhouse very few people left before the end and most stayed on to clap the players. There were no boos - none at half time either. Considering that's four home games without a win that's pretty bloody amazing.

These players put a proper shift in every time they're on the pitch and just hate to lose. That counts for a lot when you've stood or sat through umpteen spineless home defeats in the very recent past. For that alone, the fan who are going are still cutting Sarll a lot of slack. As for today not being entertaining - well the least you could say for it is it was the best 0-0 so far

... the 8 minutes of highlights will look great.

Sure, things have got to change. The midfield creates very little when it's not being bypassed altogether. But there's nowt wrong with the defence - well there wouldn't be if we had an upgrade for Fergie - and Pools have now got some great attacking options. Maybe it'll all click after we give some team a right good hammering? Could happen on Tuesday night, or next Saturday.

Taxi for Sarll? Not before November I'd say. He's still got time to start turning the draws into wins.

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

Flying Hogans wrote:

Well here's the thing. In the Millhouse very few people left before the end and most stayed on to clap the players. There were no boos - none at half time either. Considering that's four home games without a win that's pretty bloody amazing.

These players put a proper shift in every time they're on the pitch and just hate to lose. That counts for a lot when you've stood or sat through umpteen spineless home defeats in the very recent past. For that alone, the fan who are going are still cutting Sarll a lot of slack. As for today not being entertaining - well the least you could say for it is it was the best 0-0 so far

... the 8 minutes of highlights will look great.

Sure, things have got to change. The midfield creates very little when it's not being bypassed altogether. But there's nowt wrong with the defence - well there wouldn't be if we had an upgrade for Fergie - and Pools have now got some great attacking options. Maybe it'll all click after we give some team a right good hammering? Could happen on Tuesday night, or next Saturday.

Taxi for Sarll? Not before November I'd say. He's still got time to start turning the draws into wins.

Good assessment Mr. Hogans

If Raj keeps the guillotine in the basement for at least another 7 days the whole situation could change dramatically in that time with 2 wins. Boston are a team full of confidence away from home at the moment after winning two in a row including beat York 0-2 and today beat Sutton 0-3 after playing good attacking confident football. We need to concentrate 100% mainly in this game because any sign of blood and they will go for the jugular. If we don't defend away like we all know we can this cud be a banana skin and a big test. Ebbsfleet ( I predicted after their first game would finish bottom ) really piss poor side and not in a million years should they have any chance if we are fully focused. So for me we will get the 3 points from Ebbsfleet and should honestly do the same against Boston if we are being serious this season. The manager and players are now going to start feeling the pressure and it can go either way because confidence is everything in football. If we win both its and onwards and upwards but otherwise even 4 points would not be good enough due to the disappointing home form. Going to be two massive games now.

ZNB12 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:50 pm **Posts:** 1120

Even DC in his first 7 games got 2 wins 3 draws and 2 lose and look how that he turned out.

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6651

Flying Hogans wrote:

Well here's the thing. In the Millhouse very few people left before the end and most stayed on to clap the players. There were no boos - none at half time either. Considering that's four home games without a win that's pretty bloody amazing.

These players put a proper shift in every time they're on the pitch and just hate to lose. That counts for a lot when you've stood or sat through umpteen spineless home defeats in the very recent past. For that alone, the fan who are going are still cutting Sarll a lot of slack. As for today not being entertaining - well the least you could say for it is it was the best 0-0 so far

... the 8 minutes of highlights will look great.

Sure, things have got to change. The midfield creates very little when it's not being bypassed altogether. But there's nowt wrong with the defence - well there wouldn't be if we had an upgrade for Fergie - and Pools have now got some great attacking options. Maybe it'll all click after we give some team a right good hammering? Could happen on Tuesday night, or next Saturday.

Taxi for Sarll? Not before November I'd say. He's still got time to start turning the draws into wins.

Not going to arue with that, Hope the middle happens, Best squad we have had for sometime.

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

ZNB12 wrote:

Even DC in his first 7 games got 2 wins 3 draws and 2 lose and look how that he turned out.

That's interesting ZNB12. The Barnet fans are feeling a lot like we are frustrated. They cannot defend and leak goals galore away from home. Having said that the vast majority believe that to win promotion you need lots of clean sheets and give the manager a lot more games than just 7 games to get the team to gel properly and settle down. Apparently all the clubs promoted from this league over past few years wobbled in the first few games or so before taking control of the division.

Mikey76 · **Joined:** Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:02 pm **Posts:** 584

Our manager is a fraud. A total dinosaur.
Best squad we’ve had for years and he hasn’t a clue what to do. It’s utterly depressing.

thebigdog · **Joined:** Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:49 pm **Posts:** 1271

He is a very articulate man and has shades of Dave Challinor in his demeanour and refusal to be satisfied. What we’re seeing now though is him telling us how abundantly ‘close’ we are to the finished article and he’s just starting to show a few creaks in his ‘for the fans mentality’ re ‘don’t criticise me, it bounces right off me’. I’ve seen enough now to know that the ‘style’ of a Darren Sarll team is the definition of anti-football and he is managing to get the worst out of players who like to play the beautiful game - see Mani, Mancini, Grey and Campbell. He needs to change tact, this Billy big bollocks hard man walking down church street attitude won’t fly for much longer. The team is genuinely good, he just can’t seem to work that out yet. His stubbornness will be his downfall if he doesn’t change it soon. Get it down and play in both halves ffs. Stop the lumping, it’s rank bad.

To be honest starting to lose the faith in Mr Sarll, but think he’s smart enough to know he can’t afford to fail at pools and so He will change the tactics I’m sure and I back this team to be top 10. This is a far better Pools team than last season’s one, the manager is the one who needs to catch up.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8901

The false hope on here is embarrassing.
FFS.

thebigdog · **Joined:** Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:49 pm **Posts:** 1271

And can we please have our 20 goal a season striker facing the opposition goal please?

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Sat Sep 07, 2024 11:42 pm

I said November but I'll now change that to October if that's OK.
He hasn't got a clue how to play with the best players he's ever had.

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3688

Shame Sloggett can’t play as well as he interviews, very articulate bloke…future manager I reckon

harrogatepoolie · **Joined:** Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:35 pm **Posts:** 1126

Grayhoundend wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

harrogatepoolie wrote:

thebigdog wrote:

Ugly ugly style of football. Non-existent midfields with Sheron, Slogget and Hunter virtually invisible but bypassed by long channel balls from defence and keeper. Hoof ball & wasteful passage after passage of play when in decent positions to play a simple pass. Sarll tells us he loves how ‘dynamic’ his midfielders are but what is ‘dynamic’ about a narrow hoofed ball in to your forward, played from your centre back or full back?

You’ve got some of the best players we’ve had in years going 20 mins in games without touching the football. There’s no attacking rhythm to how we play. Remember DC… high press, balls into the midfield, balls out wide and fizzed in for the forwards to attack. We are playing home games like we are away from home. Mancini was on fire yet got hooked. Sarll needs to find a way to get the best out of his flair players, otherwise what’s the point is signing a south London trained tricky footballer from Crystal Palace. So few moments where wingers isolate full backs and get a yard to whip a ball in. It’s all central long balls to

Madine or Mani where we hope and will for something to come off. That’s not attacking patterns of play, that’s just crap.

Sapping the living soul out of the ground and making good players look average, crowds dropping as the entertainment barely covers half the entry cost. There is a lot of work to be done or he’s going to be put on the Poolie managerial scrap heap and I genuinely believed (and still hope and actually think he will!) he is the man to carry us forward. I’m sure Sarll will have some media spin to put on it in relation to the clean sheets but I’m sorry the last 3 home games have been turgid watches and Raj has not financed this team to finish mid table. Given the strength of the team - of which there is genuine quality this year - there needs to be a lot more from us and that starts by being braver in both halves of the pitch. Defensively sound but who genuinely wants to watch a home game where your talismanic striker doesn’t have a single shot in vain.

Frustration from the main man Mani D said it all. SORT IT OUT!

Well done big dog it had to be said. I will give him till the end of Sep but just can’t see it. No way can we make the playoffs playing like this. I want to be entertained.

Excellent assessment of how it is.
Our eyes ain't pickled onions.
But not to many now have pickled brains.

Are we still Gunna win the league.
bbolt

Only s o c c e r!

Belive we do have time to win the league,But not under Snarll.
Its not hoof ball, It was known at school as "Kick and Rush"

When we get the ball down and play, We can play.
Said it before, This squad is capable, The tactics are not, And are designed not to lose.

Well spotted. Tactics not to lose. Never thought of that. I can’t get excited but I did enjoy last weeks football when we had 10 men and the game we lost 3-2 with 10 men. Grey was on fire. But when we just hoof the ball up the pitch I find my mind wandering and I am checking my phone. The defence is fine, we just need width. More players in the box and bring Mani in. Feel sorry for the guy. He should not have been substituted

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8901

What was crowd?

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4374

Crowd was just over 4k

Poolie_on_Tyne · **Posted:** Sun Sep 08, 2024 8:44 am

4012 if I heard correctly, but didn't catch how many from Halifax - a few hundred I'd say

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18862

loyal_fan wrote:

Shame Sloggett can’t play as well as he interviews, very articulate bloke…future manager I reckon

or too intelligent to go down that line.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18862

loyal_fan wrote:

One positive for Sarll was swapping Mancini over 2nd half hopefully he gets we need our technical players near each other to be at our best

The quality is there he’s just not using it, needs to be braver instead of playing a midfield that shite itself when it has the ball

I would love to see Ferguson dropped when dodds fit and freeman moving to the left

Talent is in this squad (apart from central midfield but we aren’t bringing the best out of it sadly)

short memories as last season we,d have done better with a hunter, sheron or a sloggett in the side. thing is you do not need two of them on the pitch in home games especially with a decent defence behind them. sarll obviously saw pools last season and saw what our main problem was, leaking goals and soft in the middle. for me he has completely overreacted to that giving us the tactics we are seeing.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4374

Good players at pools are hard to come by, whether we sell them or not. If sarl stays for long or doesnt change this style of play. Manni d mancini, madine will all dissapear to other clubs pretty sharpish. No forward will want to play 90 mins and hardly get a sniff week in week out.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18862

loyal_fan wrote:

Binning Askey was the mistake in hindsight, imo

especially when you look at the side he assembled at the start of the season. players he inherited topped up by his signings playing football 100% better to what we are now seeing until the injuries hit to players who disrupted others in the side. when he did get the sack we didn,t even have a cente forward to pick with em all being injured. doubt there are many managers who could have coped with the position he found himself in and was not allowed to benefit from waterfall and parkes coming in for the raj arse licker to benefit from.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18862

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Good players at pools are hard to come by, whether we sell them or not. If sarl stays for long or doesnt change this style of play. Manni d mancini, madine will all dissapear to other clubs pretty sharpish. No forward will want to play 90 mins and hardly get a sniff week in week out.

agree and you cannot blame them. same with the fans who will vote with their feet and nobody could accuse them or the town having no interest in the club. really do you go to the pictures to watch a film on a subject you do not like especially with bad reviews on it. just have to hope that sarll does change our style but is limited like his replacement would be with a squad assembled to stop the opposition more than being positive by going for the oppositions jugular.

Davcla · **Joined:** Wed May 12, 2021 7:58 pm **Posts:** 917

At least we kept them all on the pitch

Bosh85 · **Joined:** Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:47 am **Posts:** 297

If we consider some different aspects of the game

Effort
Performance
Discipline
Result

Effort = players are clearly giving 100% and does appear to be respected by the majority of fans

Performance = bar a couple of 20 minute spells the performances are awful.

Discipline = very poor. Numerous avoidable mistakes leading to bookings/reds and now our 25 goal striker spitting his dummy and being mocked by opposition.

Results = poor given the opposition we have faced and the quality in the squad.

Overall it hasn't been a good start, the effort has led to clean sheets which is positive but that's about it.

For all of his articulate confidence in interviews make no mistake Sarll is under pressure.

The performances and discipline need to improve and then we will get the results.

I do believe it's possible for Sarll to turn this around, however we will need to beat the Rochdales, Gateshead, Barnets and FGR given we have dropped points against the weaker teams.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8901

Bosh85 wrote:

If we consider some different aspects of the game

Effort
Performance
Discipline
Result

Effort = players are clearly giving 100% and does appear to be respected by the majority of fans

Performance = bar a couple of 20 minute spells the performances are awful.

Discipline = very poor. Numerous avoidable mistakes leading to bookings/reds and now our 25 goal striker spitting his dummy and being mocked by opposition.

Results = poor given the opposition we have faced and the quality in the squad.

Overall it hasn't been a good start, the effort has led to clean sheets which is positive but that's about it.

For all of his articulate confidence in interviews make no mistake Sarll is under pressure.

The performances and discipline need to improve and then we will get the results.

I do believe it's possible for Sarll to turn this around, however we will need to beat the Rochdales, Gateshead, Barnets and FGR given we have dropped points against the weaker teams.

So we getting 100% effort which I agree with.
And on paper we got a£million forward line.
But are struggling majorly to convert that into 3pts now n again.

The Problem is 100% poor tactics from the Manager who looks like he's digging his own grave due to his stubenous to carry on with a system clearly forward players n fans know isent working.
While we slowly but surely slip further away from tinpot Gateshead.
UTP.

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5364

accrington fan wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Binning Askey was the mistake in hindsight, imo

especially when you look at the side he assembled at the start of the season. players he inherited topped up by his signings playing football 100% better to what we are now seeing until the injuries hit to players who disrupted others in the side. when he did get the sack we didn,t even have a cente forward to pick with em all being injured. doubt there are many managers who could have coped with the position he found himself in and was not allowed to benefit from waterfall and parkes coming in for the raj arse licker to benefit from.

Still not getting all the love for Arthur Askey from you two. Him and Sarll are like Jack Spratt and his wife. Under Sarll Pools can't score, under Askey they couldn't defend.

In 41 EFL and NL games under Askey Pools kept ONE clean sheet. That's absolutely pathetic. Lenny Lawrence equalled that during his few games in charge. Even Keith Curle's crappy side managed to shut out the oppostion 4 times

Askey's Pools literally needed to score twice to be in with any chance of winning

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18862

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Bosh85 wrote:

If we consider some different aspects of the game

Effort
Performance
Discipline
Result

Effort = players are clearly giving 100% and does appear to be respected by the majority of fans

So we getting 100% effort which I agree with.
And on paper we got a£million forward line.
But are struggling majorly to convert that into 3pts now n again.

The Problem is 100% poor tactics from the Manager who looks like he's digging his own grave due to his stubenous to carry on with a system clearly forward players n fans know isent working.
While we slowly but surely slip further away from tinpot Gateshead.
UTP.

a 100% effort is something we expect from players on the pitch and not thought of as a bonus. have we actually seen more from us than from our opponents. its just having a few players from the past who never gave it that makes it a new concept.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3896

Askey made a rod for his own back when he publicly criticised the players week after week - remember the after match comments of "they're not doing what we're asking them to" which rolled off his tongue time after time. Dressing room lost and that was the start of his downfall. Praise in public, chastise in private is a long established ethos for all good man managers in every walk of life.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18862

Flying Hogans wrote:

accrington fan wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Binning Askey was the mistake in hindsight, imo

especially when you look at the side he assembled at the start of the season. players he inherited topped up by his signings playing football 100% better to what we are now seeing until the injuries hit to players who disrupted others in the side. when he did get the sack we didn,t even have a cente forward to pick with em all being injured. doubt there are many managers who could have coped with the position he found himself in and was not allowed to benefit from waterfall and parkes coming in for the raj arse licker to benefit from.

Still not getting all the love for Arthur Askey from you two. Him and Sarll are like Jack Spratt and his wife. Under Sarll Pools can't score, under Askey they couldn't defend.

In 41 EFL and NL games under Askey Pools kept ONE clean sheet in 41 games. That's absolutely pathetic. Lenny Lawrence equalled that during his few games in charge. Even Keith Curle's crappy side managed to shut out the oppostion 4 times

Askey's Pools literally needed to score twice to be in with any chance of winning

and now if our opponents score first all we,d end up with is a draw now. fine we finished mid table last season wuth one of the worst defenses in the league but finishing this in a similar position with the lowest number of goals scored is nothing to get excited or brag about unless its all about the results and nothing else. until the injuries kicked in games under askey at the start of last season were the best we have seen for years.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18862

PTID wrote:

Askey made a rod for his own back when he publicly criticised the players week after week - remember the after match comments of "they're not doing what we're asking them to" which rolled off his tongue time after time. Dressing room lost and that was the start of his downfall. Praise in public, chastise in private is a long established ethos for all good man managers in every walk of life.

wish sarll would say the same to our lot in private or public on tuesday night if we beat boston 4-3.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3896

I'm sure he'll be getting into them behind closed doors.

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5364

accrington fan wrote:

Still not getting all the love for Arthur Askey from you two. Him and Sarll are like Jack Spratt and his wife. Under Sarll Pools can't score, under Askey they couldn't defend.

In 41 EFL and NL games under Askey Pools kept ONE clean sheet in 41 games. That's absolutely pathetic. Lenny Lawrence equalled that during his few games in charge. Even Keith Curle's crappy side managed to shut out the oppostion 4 times

Askey's Pools literally needed to score twice to be in with any chance of winning

and now if our opponents score first all we,d end up with is a draw now.[/quote]

"if our opponents score first" - that's the point isn't it? So far they've only managed that once in 7 games.

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6651

Almost there aren,t we.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18862

Flying Hogans wrote:

accrington fan wrote:

Still not getting all the love for Arthur Askey from you two. Him and Sarll are like Jack Spratt and his wife. Under Sarll Pools can't score, under Askey they couldn't defend.

In 41 EFL and NL games under Askey Pools kept ONE clean sheet in 41 games. That's absolutely pathetic. Lenny Lawrence equalled that during his few games in charge. Even Keith Curle's crappy side managed to shut out the oppostion 4 times

Askey's Pools literally needed to score twice to be in with any chance of winning

and now if our opponents score first all we,d end up with is a draw now.

"if our opponents score first" - that's the point isn't it? So far they've only managed that once in 7 games.

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therefore we have reached a stalemate. we are harder to beat but we are also look harder to break a team down. something has to give somewhere or just carry on trying to nick a result for the rest of the season. nobody wants to go back to the days of mr.softy pools where many stopped them to win one but need to find a middle ground from somewhere.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4374

We have played braintree, halifax southend and Wealdstone and seen a whooping 2 goals, one of them was pathetic schoolboy defending and the other a total fluke of a ball in the 98th minute because the defence was probobly that bored and thought they had won fell asleep. 360 minutes and 2 goals for any team is pathetic. The way its going we will be setting records this year.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4374

Flying Hogans wrote:

accrington fan wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Binning Askey was the mistake in hindsight, imo

especially when you look at the side he assembled at the start of the season. players he inherited topped up by his signings playing football 100% better to what we are now seeing until the injuries hit to players who disrupted others in the side. when he did get the sack we didn,t even have a cente forward to pick with em all being injured. doubt there are many managers who could have coped with the position he found himself in and was not allowed to benefit from waterfall and parkes coming in for the raj arse licker to benefit from.

Still not getting all the love for Arthur Askey from you two. Him and Sarll are like Jack Spratt and his wife. Under Sarll Pools can't score, under Askey they couldn't defend.

In 41 EFL and NL games under Askey Pools kept ONE clean sheet. That's absolutely pathetic. Lenny Lawrence equalled that during his few games in charge. Even Keith Curle's crappy side managed to shut out the oppostion 4 times

Askey's Pools literally needed to score twice to be in with any chance of winning

Askey has won the conference, got a very average team top, lost his best players and obviously had nowhere near the budget we have ploughed into the squad this season. We are 10th after having 4 saturday games in a row, playing non of the big boys in this league and the only team thats had a reasonable start is yeovil. Thats seriously worrying.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7023

Could be the quickest the Pools fans have ever turned on a manager if the results don’t improve, 5 subs yesterday taking off the 2 top scorers from last season and replacing with one who hasnt kicked a ball for whenever. Some times in a game you need to change things around but wholesale subs isn’t the answer, smacks of desperation.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3896

As someone has already said, there was no booing at full time yesterday and plenty stayed to clap the manager and team so the faith is still there. Comments from many on the way out and away from the ground were about finding a way to break teams down and that we've got the players to do it but tactics aren't quite there yet.
Many of our recent managers would have lo Ed to have the squad available to them that we have today, and we're underachieving in most people's opinions. A little more adventure and making the most of our creative players would see an upturn in results imo.

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5364

accrington fan wrote:

Flying Hogans wrote:

Askey's Pools literally needed to score twice to be in with any chance of winning

and now if our opponents score first all we,d end up with is a draw now.

"if our opponents score first" - that's the point isn't it? So far they've only managed that once in 7 games.

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therefore we have reached a stalemate. we are harder to beat but we are also look harder to break a team down. something has to give somewhere or just carry on trying to nick a result for the rest of the season. nobody wants to go back to the days of mr.softy pools where many stopped them to win one but need to find a middle ground from somewhere.[/quote]

I agree, something has to change. It could go either way for Pools now. On balance I think we'll start scoring and winning more than we lose. That's more down to the options we've got up front than to Sarll's abilities as a coach, but he's doing some things right.

Comments yesterday evening that implied he had lost the fans and the players were way off the mark. I've no doubt Mani is frustrated that he's not getting anywhere near enough service, but I bet he's also frustrated that he's not putting away the chances that he does get. Personally I don't give a damn who scores the goals as long as we start putting chances away.

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3688

What chances has mani D missed ?
He’s had a couple of snapshots from an angle he’s mainly made for himself from huge punts, hopefully Sarll sees sense and plays with at least 4 attacking players, AND plays footballl , he shit himself after the wealdstone performance but wrongly blamed that on the personnel he picked rather than the tactics he employed

With the players we have the next manager will be rubbing his hands when Sarll goes as long as Raj doesn’t employ another halfwit

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8901

KP new how to play to his strength.
Decent balls in from the width area of the pitch.

Has he headed a ball this season.
I reckon Fevs already has his tactics in mind for next Saturdays game.

harrogatepoolie · **Joined:** Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:35 pm **Posts:** 1126

Jamie1952 wrote:

Could be the quickest the Pools fans have ever turned on a manager if the results don’t improve, 5 subs yesterday taking off the 2 top scorers from last season and replacing with one who hasnt kicked a ball for whenever. Some times in a game you need to change things around but wholesale subs isn’t the answer, smacks of desperation.

I thought that too

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6651

Jamie1952 wrote:

Could be the quickest the Pools fans have ever turned on a manager if the results don’t improve, 5 subs yesterday taking off the 2 top scorers from last season and replacing with one who hasnt kicked a ball for whenever. Some times in a game you need to change things around but wholesale subs isn’t the answer, smacks of desperation.

Agree, Think Mani should have been given a chance when Charman and the loanee came on.

Davcla · **Joined:** Wed May 12, 2021 7:58 pm **Posts:** 917

I think he is training us to be the best fighters in the league

bobby lemonade · **Posted:** Sun Sep 08, 2024 5:43 pm

Must be frustrating for Mani, when the wingers came on it would have been playing to his strengths. Saying that I didn't think we played that badly, we had chances to win. I know I'll get shot down for saying that lol but hey ho

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