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 Post subject: Re: Local and Mayoral Elections on Thursday.
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I think our Jamie takes good old fashioned bullshit to levels I have never imagined.
The Tech in Hartlepool was in existence when I was 11 in 1955 and long before that so his claim that techs didn't exist when he was a lad is top of that bullshit list.
Having stated in one post that techs didn't exist, in a subsequent post he states he went to High School and then a Tech.
More bullshit.



Who said I attended the Tech in Hartlepool, there was more than 1 Tech in the area, I said I attended a Tech ?

I worked with loads of Electricians over the years from Hartlepool and none of them went to the Tech College, as I said at the end of the 5 year apprenticeship the company assessed you and granted you the qualification along with a certificate as an Electrician.

By yours and Snowys comments I have the impression the 2 of you worked for the same company all your life and have no idea what the Electrical Contracting industry is all about and how it operates.


The word ‘Tech’ was only ever used in Hartlepool for the ‘Technical High School for Boys’….anyone going for day release called it ‘going to the college or the F E’…

So you didn’t live in Hartlepool then, so which out of town ‘Tech’ was that then..I travelled to the Boro for mine?

Five year apprenticeships?…. Who was your site engineer Ismabard Kingdom Brunel sctatchinghead
Can’t speak for Derwent, but done the rounds for a bit of excitement and settled for boredom in my late thirties when the wife told me to….even went back to college and studied English Literature and History..most enjoyable…well to me it was.



Well done to you Snowy, the U.K. could do with more like you, obviously hen pecked doing as the wife told you.

No, I live in the real world, not some TV comedy sketch…..marriage is like a 5,000 piece jigsaw…and I’ve got the lid.
Er, ….you didn’t answer my question by the way….?

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 Post subject: Re: Local and Mayoral Elections on Thursday.
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Snowy wrote:
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I think our Jamie takes good old fashioned bullshit to levels I have never imagined.
The Tech in Hartlepool was in existence when I was 11 in 1955 and long before that so his claim that techs didn't exist when he was a lad is top of that bullshit list.
Having stated in one post that techs didn't exist, in a subsequent post he states he went to High School and then a Tech.
More bullshit.



Who said I attended the Tech in Hartlepool, there was more than 1 Tech in the area, I said I attended a Tech ?

I worked with loads of Electricians over the years from Hartlepool and none of them went to the Tech College, as I said at the end of the 5 year apprenticeship the company assessed you and granted you the qualification along with a certificate as an Electrician.

By yours and Snowys comments I have the impression the 2 of you worked for the same company all your life and have no idea what the Electrical Contracting industry is all about and how it operates.


The word ‘Tech’ was only ever used in Hartlepool for the ‘Technical High School for Boys’….anyone going for day release called it ‘going to the college or the F E’…

So you didn’t live in Hartlepool then, so which out of town ‘Tech’ was that then..I travelled to the Boro for mine?

Five year apprenticeships?…. Who was your site engineer Ismabard Kingdom Brunel sctatchinghead
Can’t speak for Derwent, but done the rounds for a bit of excitement and settled for boredom in my late thirties when the wife told me to….even went back to college and studied English Literature and History..most enjoyable…well to me it was.



Well done to you Snowy, the U.K. could do with more like you, obviously hen pecked doing as the wife told you.

No, I live in the real world, not some TV comedy sketch…..marriage is like a 5,000 piece jigsaw…and I’ve got the lid.
Er, ….you didn’t answer my question by the way….?


Ismabard Kingdom Brunel never heard of him although there was some very well paid jobs in Brunei in the oil and gas industry, I knew a few lads who worked there on decent money £400 to £600 a day, I can’t remember any of them ever attending college long term though, same background as myself though.


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 Post subject: Re: Local and Mayoral Elections on Thursday.
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That ‘reply’ settles it you are a complete piss take, no one is that uneducated.
So let’s have a guess…….which former inmate is it…….. sctatchinghead

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 Post subject: Re: Local and Mayoral Elections on Thursday.
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Jamie1952 wrote:
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Jamie's shovel is getting bigger and the hole he's digging even biggererererer. One thing for sure he would have made a decent navvy.
The problem is he deviates too much from the script he is supposed to follow but I've no doubt his knuckles have been rapped for that.
Sandie Shaw did have big feet though.


Knuckles wrapped for what Derwent, never had my knuckles wrapped in my life, plenty of compliments how good I was at my job though,can you point out where I have deviated from my story and I will correct my errors.[/quote

Rather than me going through the thread and pointing out where you contradicted yourself, do yourself a favour and you do it. I have no doubt you will find nothing and will come back and tell us that we are picking on you and you are not allowed an opinion on here.
However I will suggest you look at the fact that you had never heard of The Tech, as snowy pointed out. You will also see that you wrote these exact words "I didn't go to a Tech" followed by "I passed the 11 plus, then went to a High School, then Technicall College for day release for two years"
Also your reference to the older tradesmen having never been to a Tech as they didn't exist in those days, well the "Tech" mentioned by Snowy and myself was in existence BEFORE the FIRST World War. Probably why Snowy asked you if you were 120.
Maybe if you considered concentrating on what you have said previously BEFORE you continue within a discussion you wouldn't contradict yourself so much and therefore wouldn't be pulled up on it, or picked on as you like to present the outcome.
An old teacher I remember used to say two things to his pupils incessantly to the point of Ad nauseam and they were........read and understand the topic/question and think before you ink.
Good advice what?????

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 Post subject: Re: Local and Mayoral Elections on Thursday.
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Snowy wrote:
That ‘reply’ settles it you are a complete piss take, no one is that uneducated.
So let’s have a guess…….which former inmate is it…….. sctatchinghead


Your industry was totally different from what I worked in Snowy no comparison, there were many uneducated people who had some great titles and earned good money, some because it was who they knew, what Golf Club they frequented or what Lodge they were a member of, no I am not a member of a Lodge.
The money side I mentioned isn’t a piss take though, salaries in the Oil and Gas Industry are very lucrative.


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 Post subject: Re: Local and Mayoral Elections on Thursday.
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derwent wrote:
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Jamie's shovel is getting bigger and the hole he's digging even biggererererer. One thing for sure he would have made a decent navvy.
The problem is he deviates too much from the script he is supposed to follow but I've no doubt his knuckles have been rapped for that.
Sandie Shaw did have big feet though.


Knuckles wrapped for what Derwent, never had my knuckles wrapped in my life, plenty of compliments how good I was at my job though,can you point out where I have deviated from my story and I will correct my errors.[/quote

Rather than me going through the thread and pointing out where you contradicted yourself, do yourself a favour and you do it. I have no doubt you will find nothing and will come back and tell us that we are picking on you and you are not allowed an opinion on here.
However I will suggest you look at the fact that you had never heard of The Tech, as snowy pointed out. You will also see that you wrote these exact words "I didn't go to a Tech" followed by "I passed the 11 plus, then went to a High School, then Technicall College for day release for two years"
Also your reference to the older tradesmen having never been to a Tech as they didn't exist in those days, well the "Tech" mentioned by Snowy and myself was in existence BEFORE the FIRST World War. Probably why Snowy asked you if you were 120.
Maybe if you considered concentrating on what you have said previously BEFORE you continue within a discussion you wouldn't contradict yourself so much and therefore wouldn't be pulled up on it, or picked on as you like to present the outcome.
An old teacher I remember used to say two things to his pupils incessantly to the point of Ad nauseam and they were........read and understand the topic/question and think before you ink.
Good advice what?????


I didn’t go to The Tech that you and Snowy were referring to, I never said I did but another Tech in another location Derwent. None of the older tradesmen I worked with went to any Tech, this presented a problem in the industry when an organisation was introduced called the Joint Industry Board regulating the electrical industry through a grading system of Electricians and a level playing field when it came to salaries meaning one member company couldn’t pay more than another member company to stop them poaching labour, Electrical Contracting was a very transient industry so Electricians were always looking for better salaries.The grading was initially based on qualifications, the older tradesmen were graded by The Joint Industry Board along with recommendations with whatever company they worked for and their years of experience as they didn’t have any qualifications. I was intially graded Electrician then Approved Electrician then Electrical Technician on recommendation from various companies not by qualifications.


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 Post subject: Re: Local and Mayoral Elections on Thursday.
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Jamie your reply’s have a ring of I do have girlfriend but she goes to a different school. I’ve not lived in the town for 30 years but have no problem remembering I went to Seaton then the Tech, not some generic ‘high school’


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Jamie your reply’s have a ring of I do have girlfriend but she goes to a different school. I’ve not lived in the town for 30 years but have no problem remembering I went to Seaton then the Tech, not some generic ‘high school’


Maybe all he can remember is that his "high School" was on a hill.
I went to a really good school, it even had the word "approved" in it's official title.

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 Post subject: Re: Local and Mayoral Elections on Thursday.
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Jamie1952 wrote:
derwent wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
derwent wrote:
Jamie's shovel is getting bigger and the hole he's digging even biggererererer. One thing for sure he would have made a decent navvy.
The problem is he deviates too much from the script he is supposed to follow but I've no doubt his knuckles have been rapped for that.
Sandie Shaw did have big feet though.


Knuckles wrapped for what Derwent, never had my knuckles wrapped in my life, plenty of compliments how good I was at my job though,can you point out where I have deviated from my story and I will correct my errors.[/quote

Rather than me going through the thread and pointing out where you contradicted yourself, do yourself a favour and you do it. I have no doubt you will find nothing and will come back and tell us that we are picking on you and you are not allowed an opinion on here.
However I will suggest you look at the fact that you had never heard of The Tech, as snowy pointed out. You will also see that you wrote these exact words "I didn't go to a Tech" followed by "I passed the 11 plus, then went to a High School, then Technicall College for day release for two years"
Also your reference to the older tradesmen having never been to a Tech as they didn't exist in those days, well the "Tech" mentioned by Snowy and myself was in existence BEFORE the FIRST World War. Probably why Snowy asked you if you were 120.
Maybe if you considered concentrating on what you have said previously BEFORE you continue within a discussion you wouldn't contradict yourself so much and therefore wouldn't be pulled up on it, or picked on as you like to present the outcome.
An old teacher I remember used to say two things to his pupils incessantly to the point of Ad nauseam and they were........read and understand the topic/question and think before you ink.
Good advice what?????


I didn’t go to The Tech that you and Snowy were referring to, I never said I did but another Tech in another location Derwent. None of the older tradesmen I worked with went to any Tech, this presented a problem in the industry when an organisation was introduced called the Joint Industry Board regulating the electrical industry through a grading system of Electricians and a level playing field when it came to salaries meaning one member company couldn’t pay more than another member company to stop them poaching labour, Electrical Contracting was a very transient industry so Electricians were always looking for better salaries.The grading was initially based on qualifications, the older tradesmen were graded by The Joint Industry Board along with recommendations with whatever company they worked for and their years of experience as they didn’t have any qualifications. I was intially graded Electrician then Approved Electrician then Electrical Technician on recommendation from various companies not by qualifications.


Your exact words were "I didn't go to a Tech". Later on you wrote that you did attend a Tech. That's what I read and responded to, as it was in direct contradiction to what you wrote earlier. You now say you didn't mean to put that across, which is fine but like I said earlier you have to take more care, if you don't want to be misinterpreted.
You also used the words "they didn't exist" referring to Techs. They actually did exist. I recently saw a photograph of The Tech in West Hartlepool which was dated 1912. I am told that The Tech dates back to 1902 but I haven't verified that.
The rest of your post whilst very interesting and informative has no bearing on your unfortunate and, as you say, unintentional contradiction.
I will leave it there.

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 Post subject: Re: Local and Mayoral Elections on Thursday.
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sometimes in the past techs were not called that. there was a one near me called a mechanics institute but was tech as we would call it. anyway i never attended one but went to a prep school that only got me to grammer school as it was money wasted on my accent and spelling and punctuation as they could never rid me or drum it into me.


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 Post subject: Re: Local and Mayoral Elections on Thursday.
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Jamie1952 wrote:
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That ‘reply’ settles it you are a complete piss take, no one is that uneducated.
So let’s have a guess…….which former inmate is it…….. sctatchinghead


Your industry was totally different from what I worked in Snowy no comparison, there were many uneducated people who had some great titles and earned good money, some because it was who they knew, what Golf Club they frequented or what Lodge they were a member of, no I am not a member of a Lodge.
The money side I mentioned isn’t a piss take though, salaries in the Oil and Gas Industry are very lucrative.

How do you know what my industry was….I never mentioned it..?
Feck me, you do mind reading now. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Local and Mayoral Elections on Thursday.
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Jamie1952 wrote:
derwent wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
derwent wrote:
Jamie's shovel is getting bigger and the hole he's digging even biggererererer. One thing for sure he would have made a decent navvy.
The problem is he deviates too much from the script he is supposed to follow but I've no doubt his knuckles have been rapped for that.
Sandie Shaw did have big feet though.


Knuckles wrapped for what Derwent, never had my knuckles wrapped in my life, plenty of compliments how good I was at my job though,can you point out where I have deviated from my story and I will correct my errors.[/quote

Rather than me going through the thread and pointing out where you contradicted yourself, do yourself a favour and you do it. I have no doubt you will find nothing and will come back and tell us that we are picking on you and you are not allowed an opinion on here.
However I will suggest you look at the fact that you had never heard of The Tech, as snowy pointed out. You will also see that you wrote these exact words "I didn't go to a Tech" followed by "I passed the 11 plus, then went to a High School, then Technicall College for day release for two years"
Also your reference to the older tradesmen having never been to a Tech as they didn't exist in those days, well the "Tech" mentioned by Snowy and myself was in existence BEFORE the FIRST World War. Probably why Snowy asked you if you were 120.
Maybe if you considered concentrating on what you have said previously BEFORE you continue within a discussion you wouldn't contradict yourself so much and therefore wouldn't be pulled up on it, or picked on as you like to present the outcome.
An old teacher I remember used to say two things to his pupils incessantly to the point of Ad nauseam and they were........read and understand the topic/question and think before you ink.
Good advice what?????


I didn’t go to The Tech that you and Snowy were referring to, I never said I did but another Tech in another location Derwent. None of the older tradesmen I worked with went to any Tech, this presented a problem in the industry when an organisation was introduced called the Joint Industry Board regulating the electrical industry through a grading system of Electricians and a level playing field when it came to salaries meaning one member company couldn’t pay more than another member company to stop them poaching labour, Electrical Contracting was a very transient industry so Electricians were always looking for better salaries.The grading was initially based on qualifications, the older tradesmen were graded by The Joint Industry Board along with recommendations with whatever company they worked for and their years of experience as they didn’t have any qualifications. I was intially graded Electrician then Approved Electrician then Electrical Technician on recommendation from various companies not by qualifications.


You’re not slow at blowing your own trumpet, Modesty Blaine has some way to go to keep up with you….now when these so called grades came out you were obviously working with Mr Faraday back in the day when Fred and Barney were about I suspect if you were about then you’d be seriously pushing 100….which would explain a lot.

The biggest joke is ‘electrician's’ getting called electricians on the strength of recommendation not qualifications…and you appear proud of it…..would you seek the help of a qualified doctor or someone unqualified….?….sounds to me you may have been a ‘dilutee’…..the ones looked down on by the ‘qualified tradesmen’.
I learnt all about that watching as an apprentice.

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Ooops nearly forgot…where was that out of town ‘tech’ you attended.
I asked you once and you, er, seemed to forget…so where was it again.

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Snowy judging by your past comments you worked as a Mechanical Fitter or something similar, ‘klankies’ we called them on the sites.
I was never looked down on by anyone as we were all similarly qualified meaning in your opinion all the major projects in the U.K. and Offshore the Electrical Installations were done by ‘dilutees’., must have been 1000s of them.
Snowy you have no idea how apprenticeships or knowledge of the environment I was employed in or how it operated so reserve your comments which are fact not sarcasm.
.You said I like blowing my own trumpet, a bit like the ‘kettle calling the pot black’


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I love the idea you were so good you were beyond being taught anything by anyone, But the man who can’t be taught, is his own worst enemy…it’s a lifetime of learning.
You say you were in a completely different trade to me…I never mentioned my trade once…..but it was also electrical. Touché.
Studying for City and Guilds was mandatory.

You said I wasn’t on the electrical side….well the post I posted several days ago would tell you otherwise as it states quite clearly I was. oh dear.

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Snowy wrote:
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I love the idea you were so good you were beyond being taught anything by anyone, But the man who can’t be taught, is his own worst enemy…it’s a lifetime of learning.
You say you were in a completely different trade to me…I never mentioned my trade once…..but it was also electrical. Touché.
Studying for City and Guilds was mandatory.

You said I wasn’t on the electrical side….well the post I posted several days ago would tell you otherwise as it states quite clearly I was. oh dear.


You were an an Electrical Fitter, I was an Installation Electrician totally different trade, in my day studying for the City and Guilds was only mandatory fot the A Certificate which qualified you as an Electrician after serving your apprenticeship.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Snowy judging by your past comments you worked as a Mechanical Fitter or something similar, ‘klankies’ we called them on the sites.
I was never looked down on by anyone as we were all similarly qualified meaning in your opinion all the major projects in the U.K. and Offshore the Electrical Installations were done by ‘dilutees’., must have been 1000s of them.
Snowy you have no idea how apprenticeships or knowledge of the environment I was employed in or how it operated so reserve your comments which are fact not sarcasm.
.You said I like blowing my own trumpet, a bit like the ‘kettle calling the pot black’

Well I proved you first statement embarrassingly wrong and never, ever heard filters called ‘klankies’…and by your own hand you confirm you were indeed a dilutee.
As for not knowing any thing about your environment you worked in, I have never stated where I worked in my early life and the idea I know nothing about apprenticeships is as ludicrous as your disjointed contradictory dancing effort to justify your constant back pedalling.
The chip on your shoulder is sitting uncomfortably.

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Jamie1952 wrote:
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I love the idea you were so good you were beyond being taught anything by anyone, But the man who can’t be taught, is his own worst enemy…it’s a lifetime of learning.
You say you were in a completely different trade to me…I never mentioned my trade once…..but it was also electrical. Touché.
Studying for City and Guilds was mandatory.

You said I wasn’t on the electrical side….well the post I posted several days ago would tell you otherwise as it states quite clearly I was. oh dear.


You were an an Electrical Fitter, I was an Installation Electrician totally different trade, in my day studying for the City and Guilds was only mandatory fot the A Certificate which qualified you as an Electrician after serving your apprenticeship.

I was NOT an electrical fitter, as if such a job ever existed :roll:
As I’ve never mentioned my job, you couldn’t possibly know but keep making preposterous statements without any knowledge whatsoever.
Even when confronted with basic facts of something I experienced you still waffle on and deny reality…and when I actually experience something I lived, I’ll carry on questioning scenarios that contradict my reality.

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Snowy is tieing him in knots. It's embarrassing but he keeps asking for it.
Maybe his thirst for attention overrides everything else.
Reading his revelations in this thread alone would make me think twice before I offered him the job of rewiring my property.
Bodgit and Scarper comes to mind. :laugh:

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Jamie has certainly picked a strange hill to die on.

Japanese Kamikaze pilots are mere amateurs compared to Jamie.
Although he’d probably fly to Thailand with an unqualified pilot who saw ‘Top Gun’ twice and got the hang of it ….and was promoted to Air Chief Marshall (in his world) despite being ‘a bit fick’. :laugh:

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Snowy is tieing him in knots. It's embarrassing but he keeps asking for it.
Maybe his thirst for attention overrides everything else.
Reading his revelations in this thread alone would make me think twice before I offered him the job of rewiring my property.
Bodgit and Scarper comes to mind. :laugh:


He keeps stating things that I never, ever said, yet keeps doing it.
I correct him, show him the evidence and he does it again.
I can only assume he’s ’Artificial Intelligence’s’ new stablemate being trialled ….’Artificial Confusion’. :roll: Jeez.

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Snowy wrote:
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Snowy is tieing him in knots. It's embarrassing but he keeps asking for it.
Maybe his thirst for attention overrides everything else.
Reading his revelations in this thread alone would make me think twice before I offered him the job of rewiring my property.
Bodgit and Scarper comes to mind. :laugh:


He keeps stating things that I never, ever said, yet keeps doing it.
I correct him, show him the evidence and he does it again.
I can only assume he’s ’Artificial Intelligence’s’ new stablemate being trialled ….’Artificial Confusion’. :roll: Jeez.


And on the other hand keeps trying to deny things that he himself has said.
Totally baffling.
I've got to say I was warned about him as, apparently he was "asked" to leave another Forum, and so we got him.
Lucky us eh????
And people say I have no patience. :laugh:

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