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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:44 pm 
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Just think if the Torys had not been in control for the past ten years and Boris was not PM we would be the only country in the world not suffering from this virus.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:48 pm 
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Just think if the Torys had not been in control for the past ten years and Boris was not PM we would be the only country in the world not suffering from this virus.


Did a full search and can't find anywhere anyone's said that.

Searched the full internet as well, also under my sofa just incase it was there. Nope. Not one.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:53 pm 
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Just think if the Torys had not been in control for the past ten years and Boris was not PM we would be the only country in the world not suffering from this virus.


The cult of Boris boils my piss as well, the bumble c.u.n.t has been showing symptoms and not isolated? British exceptionalism at its best


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Just think if the Torys had not been in control for the past ten years and Boris was not PM we would be the only country in the world not suffering from this virus.


But maybe the NHS and other services would be a lot better geared up to dealing with it.

This seems like a long time ago, but is only actually a couple of weeks. I know hindsight is a wonderful thing, but makes you fully realise now why the experts were screaming at the government to take action similar to other countries: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51865915

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The echo chamber is in full flow today.

Thankyou compo for the informed posts.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:19 pm 
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The echo chamber is in full flow today.

Thankyou compo for the informed posts.



He’s an informed post, NHS staff still aren’t being tested, nor do they have PPE


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Compo is a good egg, and he is spot on with a lot off stuff. However I fear that he may be being misinformed. Not that long ago he was told it was nowt to worry about:
http://www.pooliebunker.co.uk/newbunker/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=65335

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For goodness sake will one of these brilliant educated posters who have probably never been in charge of an office never mind a government department or the like PLEASE say who you would want to take over.


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Someone who gives a shit about the people of this country, the NHS and other services that actually make things tick. Not ex-public school millionaires who are only in politics to feather their own own nests, or unelected bureaucrats like Cummings.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:52 pm 
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Someone who gives a shit about the people of this country, the NHS and other services that actually make things tick. Not ex-public school millionaires who are only in politics to feather their own own nests, or unelected bureaucrats like Cummings.


Oh stop it with your common sense.


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By the way where is that next leader of the Labour Party, Starmer. Any body seen him lately. Come on Poolie Nott you still haven’t said who is capable of sorting this out. Oh and when you do tell all the other countries who are having the same problems.


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I'd trust Starmer far more than someone who has been sacked on more than one occasion for lying (quite extreme for a journalist), and has a history of bungling. Will that do you?

Other countries who are having the same problems are taking decisive action. It won't wipe the virus out overnight but it will reduce the percentage of people who catch it and die.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:29 pm 
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By the way where is that next leader of the Labour Party, Starmer. Any body seen him lately. Come on Poolie Nott you still haven’t said who is capable of sorting this out. Oh and when you do tell all the other countries who are having the same problems.


Anybody seen him lately?

I doubt it. He will be in lockdown like the rest of us. What do you expect him to be doing? Unless you think being an opposition MP is a critical job at this time.


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The echo chamber is in full flow today.

Thankyou compo for the informed posts.


Sorry I was actually working today assisting in getting the extraction machines to where they where needed and talking to the NHS trusts about the workflow and sample preparation.

Yes at the start along with the virologists at PHE and Cambridge the thought was it wouldn’t spread as rapid once we know about the strain in China and one in Europe and how it works etc we and I changed our tune. That’s why since then I have been working my arse off

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But surely Mr Compo, you science bods must have consulted with our font of retrospective wisdom; Mr Pin?

May I just for a moment tip my hat you to Mr Compo.


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Keep up the good work compo, you can only react and conform to the informaion given by the PHE.


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From last Monday I knew the shit storm was coming and told my family not to go anywhere. The centralisation of all the testing machines happened very quick I was basically ringing up companies saying are you doing testing if they weren’t the army was at their door within a few hours to get their machines

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From the military perspective, I'm talking to a few guys still serving and there's no conspiracy there either. Mobilisation seems to be in phases;

1: medics and logistics (drivers and supply)
2: lots of others to built tents and put up hospital beds in field hospitals
3: others on standby the support the police on security if needed


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Thank you Mr Compo for keeping us up to date as best you can and also thank you for the efforts of your colleagues and yourself in trying to beat this virus.
Other people on here are underlining two very important concepts like empty vessels make the most noise and a little knowledge is dangerous.
The usual suspects on here are in full swing as we have come to expect.

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derwent wrote:
Thank you Mr Compo for keeping us up to date as best you can and also thank you for the efforts of your colleagues and yourself in trying to beat this virus.
Other people on here are underlining two very important concepts like empty vessels make the most noise and a little knowledge is dangerous.
The usual suspects on here are in full swing as we have come to expect.


Quite right about empty vessels, the most vocal and loudest PM in our lifetime has got to be Boris, unless of course there’s a fridge handy!


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I want to tell you all that’s going on and put your mind at rest but obviously I can’t and just have to say the government are stepping up paying for things esp in the diagnostic area. The testing is ramping up very good.

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 Post subject: Re: Boris
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:10 pm 
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But surely Mr Compo, you science bods must have consulted with our font of retrospective wisdom; Mr Pin?

May I just for a moment tip my hat you to Mr Compo.



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 Post subject: Re: Boris
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:14 pm 
Q. Why did Prince Charles and Alexander 'Boris' Johnson get tested for Covid-19 while the public and NHS frontline staff are still waiting for theirs?

A: They both have underlying wealth conditions.

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Read what I said I said at that time it was stupid closing the schools and yes all other points I said was right best way still is to wash your hands and if you have no underlying health issues mainly yes you will be fine. I can go into the biology and virology of the it and how it attacks protein receptors that you get more of with age or if you have had chemo etc but I am sure you know all this. What I said throughout is right.

I do t care if you point score at me that’s fine all I know is that due to me and my colleagues helping in a small way the lab in MK got set up in record time and the other two are on the way. I also been assisting with the front line PHE and NHS researchers to advise them on testing and also getting the machines they need ASAP. This is my area of expertise and experience DNA and RNA extraction I am not a virologist and I went in past pandemics like SARS and Middle Eastern Coronavirus which didn’t spread as quick. And yes I actually know a lot of the staff at the imperial as of last year I covered that area.

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That’s all I am saying on it now and my comments from a virologist at Cambridge who lab is one of the most respected in the uk was obviously tongue in cheek. I don’t want to be seen as being a hypocrite but when the power at be and even in my work saw the rapid spread of the second strain from Italy we all changed and that’s when things moved very quickly. But what I said is still right was hands stay in doors as it’s not the young and well how will be affected but these are carriers who will kill the old and people with respiratory problems.

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It's not unheard of for certain branches of govt to fuck things up while others do their job properly. Overall, the govt is doing mostly what is expected of it, i.e., the same as Italy, Spain, France (albeit in a more half-arsed way).
That's hardly outstanding given the benefit of hindsight they've had from those countries. Maybe they are better than them in certain aspects but they are certainly worse in others.
But the thread is about Johnson and as things stand the man himself is not coming out of this with any special credit, and he's certainly not doing himself any favours with his carry on regardless attitude.

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I'm not trying to point score Compo, I've got a huge amount of respect for the work you're doing.

You're obviously very involved in this and the situation has changed incredibly quickly.

It is important for everyone to hear lots of perspectives on it from people who are involved. The government still aren't quickly enough in my opinion, after speaking to and reading accounts from NHS staff and others involved at the coal face.

Looking back through the news stories, its amazing how blase many people were (and seemingly still are) about it all. It seems like until it affects them or someone they know, they will just carry on doing what they want.

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Keep the information coming Mr Compo if you are able and have got the time.

As a card carrying member of the Labour party and a monthly contributor to the party funds, I could be forgiven for blasting this government and it's leader at every turn but I am trying to take party politics out of this crisis.
People hate BJ, that is obvious but it is not necessary to keep reminding us all.
My advice is if you want rid of Boris and the Tories then join the Labour party and help to make it electable and you will have a chance of removing them, otherwise your incessant whinging will just be lost on the wind you keep releasing.
Voting is taking place at this moment to elect a new Gaffer which has to herald a new era. Unless of course you want another ten/ twenty years of Boris bashing cos that's what you're heading for.
Your choice.
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I just wish I was capable of writing something as eloquent and cutting as the above.


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So the death curve in the UK is now at a steeper rate than even Italy.

Three cheers for Boris and his ‘genius’ advisor.


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Is the sudden huge jump because they are now counting people who have died of C-19 outside a hospital?

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I think it's because we're hitting the higher point of infection a fortnight ago before we were locked down and travel was rife. There's still a few more days of this as well. Think about the amount of people going out drinking before the pubs etc closed, went shopping, that kind of stuff. Their symptoms will only just be displaying now. Could be any of us.


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Certainly could. And it's a scary prospect.


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Still over 100,000 people a day entering the UK from all over the World through Heathrow Airport totally unchecked.

This is getting to a stage of criminal negligence.

What is the thinking, if any, behind this?

My blood runs cold every time I see that Nightingale Hospital in London, it’s a basically a warehouse that thousands of people are going to die in.


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No, it is because they are having to take people off ventilators. War medicine rules now apply in certain hospitals in London. They have so many patients in the hospitals they are having to decide which ones have the best chance of survival. Even The Daily Mail front page attacked the Government today as journalists I know there have a good idea of the real state of the NHS in London and it is not pretty. People dying slow and painful deaths totally alone. Everyone was expecting the surge in numbers, the worst is still to come alas.
Staff have been threatened with disciplinary action if they discuss this in the media, particularly social media.
One has to hope for Cummings sake he has private health care because if his symptoms get worse and he needs hospital care he could end up a dead "genius" as can't see many NHS staff rushing to his aid.


Good friend of mine is an academic medical lawyer (I won't say where). He sits on a medical ethics committee; they're about to address how best to ration access to treatment, including ventilators. How the duck do you decide who lives and who dies? That's the real life effect of this government's failings.

There's a bloke on here who doesn't post anymore who must be really worrying. I've been thinking about him and his family for days. If you're still reading, hope you and yours are ok. I know you can't afford for this get any worse.

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Boris the bungler.

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I have seen some fairly prominent figures doubting the credibility of his positive coronavirus diagnosis. It’s all convenient timing for him the Tories plan from the start of tenure as leader is to hide him away to the limit the damage he can cause remember this a man who hid in a fridge before the election, it’s a good time to hide in an office and this is a man who’s past is riddled with lying on an almost pathological scale.


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Frankie Boyle said he wouldn't put it past Boris to pretend he's dead until it's all over so he can avoid the scrutiny.

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surely not. This is the legend that is Boris. Man of the people. Our saviour. Surely not.


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It's almost as if... he's not capable of doing the job and people only voted for him because the newspapers told them to.


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It's almost as if... he's not capable of doing the job and people only voted for him because the newspapers told them to.



LOL Boris, innit

They are as thick as mince and fucking hypocritical not nice people as well, clapping the NHS, the fucking state of them


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surely not. This is the legend that is Boris. Man of the people. Our saviour. Surely not.


Well, I mean, apparently our forum is called the "Boris appreciation society".


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surely not. This is the legend that is Boris. Man of the people. Our saviour. Surely not.


Well, I mean, apparently our forum is called the "Boris appreciation society".


Not sure where you get that from. I would have said the "Anti Boris society".
He's been accused of manslaughter and suggestions have been made of jailing him.
If that's appreciation............................. :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Please take a look at this chart. I've been following it for two weeks and it's as reliable as you'll find. Their figures are obviously dependent on how the respective countries calculate them.

There are two statistics I'd like to draw attention to.
{Leaving aside the fact that Germany seem to have found the magic solution to stop people dying.)

Here. in Spain, sadly, we are now the second most infected country after the USA. Having said that, look at the number of recoveries in Spain, the highest in the world after China, then look at the mumber in the UK. That's not just one week's lag.

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Please take a look at this chart. I've been following it for two weeks and it's as reliable as you'll find. Their figures are obviously dependent on how the respective countries calculate them.

There are two statistics I'd like to draw attention to.
{Leaving aside the fact that Germany seem to have found the magic solution to stop people dying.)

Here. in Spain, sadly, we are now the second most infected country after the USA. Having said that, look at the number of recoveries in Spain, the highest in the world after China, then look at the mumber in the UK. That's not just one week's lag.


I thought you were in France - why the French name?

I noticed the Spanish recoveries this morning - well above the Italians, in fact well above almost everyone ...


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Charco I lived in Montpellier till 2014, so I'm still Monty to everybody. Anyway what nickname could you make out of Cambrils?

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Not sure where you get that from. I would have said the "Anti Boris society".
He's been accused of manslaughter and suggestions have been made of jailing him.
If that's appreciation............................. :shock: :shock: :shock:


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The Spain curve is flattening out for all to see. They too have made a lot of mistakes, but one thing they haven't done is treat quarantine as a bit of a holiday.
The UK, as I've now said many times, is in lockstep with Spain with a lag of 9 days. I sincerely hope that in nine days time we can talk about tens of thousands of recoveries in Britain.
But with just over a hundred recoveries out of 38,000 cases, it isn't sounding good. And those 38,000 are out of only 173,784 tested.

Well I guess the good news is that Prince Charles is one of the 139 cured.

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The Spain curve is flattening out for all to see. They too have made a lot of mistakes, but one thing they haven't done is treat quarantine as a bit of a holiday.
The UK, as I've now said many times, is in lockstep with Spain with a lag of 9 days. I sincerely hope that in nine days time we can talk about tens of thousands of recoveries in Britain.
But with just over a hundred recoveries out of 38,000 cases, it isn't sounding good. And those 38,000 are out of only 173,784 tested.

Well I guess the good news is that Prince Charles is one of the 139 cured.


And of course the good news about Boris and Matty. Some people would have a hissy fit if anything happened to those two. It would be like losing their favourite teddy.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52153594

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