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 Post subject: Re: Humphreys let go
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:32 pm 
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Like where?

I thought the comments on here where a bit the opposite, I was expecting more excitement and joy hed gone but most seem to be trotting out the usual loyal servant bollox.

He's just not good enough.

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Everyone entitled to there opinion, thinking he's past it isn't embarrassing though. I don't use fb so a wouldn't know what was said on there but personally I'm over the moon we can start fresh next season with a new backroom.


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I watch him week in week out and I'm sorry but I'll repeat that he will WALK into another League Two side. Time will tell. Some of the treatment of Humphreys on here, Twitter, FB etc has been quite frankly embarrassing. From grown men....


Please tell me they arent grown men? :shock:

I agree with you. Humphreys will walk into many teams below league one level. He will also get a coaching job too, somewhere.

For those slightly short of the minimum standard number of brain cells. Humphreys wasnt the problem at Pools. John Hughes has said it, Neale Cooper has said it. How many more need to say it, before you believe them over Mr I?

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Theres been some utter bile posted lads, haway, be honest. Why are people so grudgeful and spiteful? Its a horrible, horrible trait. I've seen stuff on FB, Twitter etc in the last few days..."Good Riddance" etc. "About Time"...I despair, I really do. Champagne Corks popping because a player of 12 years standing who has seen the club through all those good times, is released.

Is it just me? Can't be. Its not about the man in question, its about decency and respect.


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I couldn't give a fuck what mr I reckons he heard. Iv never believed it so dont need to start now.

However I am allowed to judge with my eyes and humps IMO is past it. He has lost his pace and offers very little to the team.

Years ago I would have said different but as we are in the here and now, how good he is now is all that matters to me. We can't be sentimental with veterans who have been good servants. If there past there best get rid.

Aslong as he dosnt score past us I wish the bloke all the best


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This Neale Cooper one or two are referring to.............would he be the same manager that had Humps bench warming for the early part of last season????
Humps was a great servant to the club but the club has decided to move on without him and the other great servant, Barron.
The club will have their reasons which they will no doubt keep to themselves as usual, so we will never know what triggered the departures off.
I honestly don't rate him as a player any more although I would like to have seen him coaching the youth as his ethic of dedication, fitness and attitude would benefit youngsters. The club haven't gone down that route for reasons best known to themselves, so it's pastures new.
I'm sure he can do a job somewhere else but time will tell if there is another league club willing to give him a playing contract.
If Cooper from Boro is the new manager, maybe they( Boro) will give him a chance with their youth set up.
He's gone now, so let's draw a line under it and move on.

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Ritchie was 2 or more years past his sell by date. Too slow to play in a midfield with Walton. It was the right decision. It's time to sign some new future legends.

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It was definately time to move on as a player I just wish they'd done it better.

He'll easily get a job somewhere else though.


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Ritchie was 2 or more years past his sell by date. Too slow to play in a midfield with Walton. It was the right decision. It's time to sign some new future legends.

Exactly.

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Why is Walton too fast for him? I don't think so ... Walton has two gears one being slow ..the other is reverse.

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Theres been some utter bile posted lads, haway, be honest. Why are people so grudgeful and spiteful? Its a horrible, horrible trait. I've seen stuff on FB, Twitter etc in the last few days..."Good Riddance" etc. "About Time"...I despair, I really do. Champagne Corks popping because a player of 12 years standing who has seen the club through all those good times, is released.

Is it just me? Can't be. Its not about the man in question, its about decency and respect.



Im not grudgeful or spiteful. Iv not said 'good riddance' etc but am I glad he is no longer a player at this club? Yes im afraid I am. Would have had no problem with him being a coach or whatever but at times it was cringeworthy watching him on the field. It got to the point where people werent giving abuse when he didnt have time to get a pass away with 20 yards of space but people laughed instead it was that bad.

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Ritchie was 2 or more years past his sell by date. Too slow to play in a midfield with Walton. It was the right decision. It's time to sign some new future legends.


So you say we should release one slow player to accommodate a younger, overweight slow player?
Walton was a shambles until Hughes put Humphreys in the team alongside him.


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"As for the comment about decency and respect, serious question Mr Elvis, do you think IOR handled his departure with dignity and respect ? Thats a serious question by the way- I have my own opinion but wanted IOR's version of events."

Has it been established as fact that it happened that way? Haven't seen that reported yet..


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Can't disagree with any of the posts by B, tree, chip, pj derwent or RB.

I haven't seen any embarrassing comments, I'm very pleased he's left but that's purely from a playing perspective.

We needed a new start. He's had his moment in the sun, had his testimonial and picked up 12 years worth of wages from us.... What more does he want a job for life?

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Ritchie was 2 or more years past his sell by date. Too slow to play in a midfield with Walton. It was the right decision. It's time to sign some new future legends.


Of course it was the right decision.

I dont think anyone is disputing that.

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Well if the club decided not to renew his playing contract and Humps said he didn't want a coaching job then the only solution is the door.

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Its was the right decision to let him go but the slagging he got was way over.
He got pelters for getting his picture taken with fans on the last game of the season FFS. Would Baldwin have suffered the same?


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Its was the right decision to let him go but the slagging he got was way over.
He got pelters for getting his picture taken with fans on the last game of the season FFS. Would Baldwin have suffered the same?


Especially when he knew it was probably his last game for the club after 12 years. People saying they 'felt sick' seeing it in the Mail :roll:


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As did his departure in the Brentford game John

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So he made a big thing of his final departure of his final Home AND Away games, then only found out about it in the middle of the night whilst on holiday? How bloody strange.


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Why are both papers who've presumably contacted him suggesting that then?


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Why are both papers who've presumably contacted him suggesting that then?


Did I miss the meeting when it was decided that we should all believe what The Mail says nowadays? sctatchinghead

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The echo are saying it as well.

I appreciate that the Mail gets a lot wrong but at the same time I don't they just make stuff up.


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The last time the Mail said someone was in America on holiday, he was having an interview for the Sheff United job the next day.

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One of the things I find interesting (apart from sitting on Bath Taps) is how much warm appluase and chanting greeted these last two goodbyes, yet all you get on FB, Twitter, MB's is a load of Anti-Humphreys feeling. Again, bloody strange that....


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The Mail don't just make stuff up? :laugh: :laugh:

Anyway, the scenario is probably something like;
KH: Has that Humphreys decided to answer his phone yet?
RG: No boss, I've rang loads and left loads of messages but he just hasn't rang me back.
KH: Well we've already had to announce the initial released list, and then we've later announced that we're keeping Sam and Andy, I don't think we can wait indefinitely for him to ring back just cos he thinks if he ignores us we'll change our mind and offer him a new contract.
RG: Do you want me to get a statement on the website saying we've released him?
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Should they really be releasing anyone over the phone?

Do you honestly think that is the correct way to go about things?


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Should they really be releasing anyone over the phone?

Do you honestly think that is the correct way to go about things?


Try this scenario then;

KH: Has that Humphreys decided to answer his phone yet?
RG: No boss, I've rang loads and left loads of messages but he just hasn't rang me back or come in to see us.
KH: Well we've already had to announce the initial released list, and then we've later announced that we're keeping Sam and Andy, I don't think we can wait indefinitely for him to ring back and arrange to meet us just cos he thinks if he ignores us we'll change our mind and offer him a new contract.
RG: I hear he's gone off to America now to try and hide from us so that we can't find him to tell him the bad news in person.
KH: So he's fucked off abroad to avoid us and won't even answer the phone so that we can at least tell him on the phone if he won't come and see us? Well the cheeky 'lovely lovely person' can find out off somebody else then.
RG: Do you want me to get a statement on the website saying we've released him?
KH: Immediately, and make sure that it's at a time when it's daft o'clock in America just to proper piss him off when people ring him to tell him.

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The last time the Mail said someone was in America on holiday, he was having an interview for the Sheff United job the next day.


No they didn't they said he was 'on holiday for six weeks' as in off work like all the other football related staff are until the first day of pre season.

I've took the piss out of the Mail more than anyone in the past but that simply isn't true.


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Just shows again that once you are out those that run the club cut you dead. The OS very rarely publishes something before 10.30-11am. Humps release statement was well before then so they knew it would be daft o'clock in the US. Yes the website might go to write warmly about an ex-player but I doubt they'll be any Christmas cards being sent. Another shameful act by L & H.

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The Mail don't just make stuff up? :laugh: :laugh:

Anyway, the scenario is probably something like;
KH: Has that Humphreys decided to answer his phone yet?
RG: No boss, I've rang loads and left loads of messages but he just hasn't rang me back.
KH: Well we've already had to announce the initial released list, and then we've later announced that we're keeping Sam and Andy, I don't think we can wait indefinitely for him to ring back just cos he thinks if he ignores us we'll change our mind and offer him a new contract.
RG: Do you want me to get a statement on the website saying we've released him?
KH: Immediately.

Reading your last two scenarios Mr R, I'm almost tempted to believe that you are jockeying for a position with The Mail. :wink: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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I'm not saying that at all.

What I'm saying is,

"It's bloody strange".

Chip, haway man you know me well enough, stick to what I say and not what I appear to say.


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Mr Ripper wrote:
PJPoolie wrote:
Should they really be releasing anyone over the phone?

Do you honestly think that is the correct way to go about things?


Try this scenario then;

KH: Has that Humphreys decided to answer his phone yet?
RG: No boss, I've rang loads and left loads of messages but he just hasn't rang me back or come in to see us.
KH: Well we've already had to announce the initial released list, and then we've later announced that we're keeping Sam and Andy, I don't think we can wait indefinitely for him to ring back and arrange to meet us just cos he thinks if he ignores us we'll change our mind and offer him a new contract.
RG: I hear he's gone off to America now to try and hide from us so that we can't find him to tell him the bad news in person.
KH: So he's fucked off abroad to avoid us and won't even answer the phone so that we can at least tell him on the phone if he won't come and see us? Well the cheeky 'lovely lovely person' can find out off somebody else then.
RG: Do you want me to get a statement on the website saying we've released him?
KH: Immediately.


May be the scenario was like this:

Last Friday

KH: Why don't we all go away on holiday for a week or two and when we'll get back we'll make a decision about a possible contract.
RH: Ok Mr Chairman (Humps exists with his bucket and spade and tickets to Orlando).

Monday morning

RG: (Via the telephone) Stop playing solitaire and listen to me Simpson.
MS: Yes Mr Green?
RG: What time is it in Florida?
MS: About mid-night, why?
RG: Inform Humphreys he's sacked via the website.

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He's in Hollywood, not Orlando!


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He's in Hollywood, not Orlando!


Either way you can still find a Mickey Mouse outfit to send back to your former employer bbolt

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There isn't really a very good way of telling somebody that there isn't a new contract for them but I've always had the impression that managers usually do it. In Pools' case at the moment there isn't a manager so I would have thought either the CEO or the secretary could do it. Phone seems harsh but if players like Horwood and Humphreys wanted to get on with their jollies even though they knew nothing was settled yet then what option is there? Telling them two weeks later when they both want to get sorted with new clubs would be way worse and might deprive them of options for next season.

Having said that, if Humphreys found out from the website, or friends who read the website, then that is not a good way to treat anybody but as his phone was on it is very hard to believe that the club would do that.


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I don't think any of that is disrespectful.


You should ask Matty Dolan about disrespecting Ritchie Humphreys!

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Chip Fireball wrote:
The Mail stated :

The timing of their announcement was somewhat strange given that Humphreys is currently in the United States on a family holiday.

Indeed, he was awoken at midnight (local time) and spent the majority of the night answering phone calls and text messages.

Humphreys was thought to be shocked to learn of his release in such a manner.


Oh howay Chip, man.

Lets just throw in the idea that Ritchie knew before he went away but said nowt. Then the club, when they'd sorted out the contractual bits, made the announcement. Then he starts getting phone calls etc. from people who just found out. Let's suppose, errr...press people??

He was 'THOUGHT' to be shocked?

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Makes for a better story if he was bumped by the phone call though.. Never let the facts get in the way of your "story"

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Well aye, three months ago on here it was the 'Fail' and he was 'Hopeless.'

Now he's the Messiah and the font of all knowledge. :roll:


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Shock horror - journalist exagerates/makes something up/implies something which isn't correct/bullshits/writes between the lines/lies/is fed a line/gets it wrong.

He might have known but still be shocked it was on the website or shocked to be asked in the middle of the night or shocked by anything and a journo will put 2 and 2 together and make anything they bloody well want.


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I don't doubt he was sitting in the press box on 20th April, but Humphreys announcement was a month later. I'm not really sure of what you're getting at there.

Be honest, as much as people like to claim to be 'in the know,' you're one of the most vociferous about the club not telling fans much and you're far from alone.

It was always going to go one of two ways and it doesn't take much to make the right guess in those circumstances.


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Chip Fireball wrote:
So I ask the question again, Loughlin writes :

" Humphreys - who found out about his exit from third parties while on a family holiday in America without as much as a phone call from the club "

Are you saying he is a liar - yes or no. Its a very simple question.


Yes, it's a very simple question, you're asking me to either libel him on a public message board or not.

Pass. :wink: I refer you to Zippy v Glasses 2003.

I'm stating that I'm not inclined to concur with the stated facts particularly when it isn't established who the third parties are.


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Few good moments I will always remember of Humps.

1. Tranmere penalty

2. Accrington curler

3. Nutmegging a player with a back heel and spin and then having the audacity to wave at the mill house crowd as he pulled it off.(one of my all time fave pools moments)


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Few good moments I will always remember of Humps.

1. Tranmere penalty

2. Accrington curler

3. Nutmegging a player with a back heel and spin and then having the audacity to wave at the mill house crowd as he pulled it off.(one of my all time fave pools moments)



I read a comment on Nick Loughlins twitter stating Humps goal at Accrington was a free kick. As far as I remember it, he carried the ball forward a fair bit?

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yeah he ran with it a bit, its on that youtube.




And for those that have never seen it he got a beauty for the Wendies. Silly buggers went and got a load of foreign crap and let him go.


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 4:24 pm 
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i was watching espn classic the other day n they have those 30 min shows on certain players on, anyway they had the di canio one on where he pushed the ref over, humphreys was right in the mix of the scuffle, pushing viera n ray parlour about, made me chuckle!

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 4:50 pm 
Eifion's goal was better in that game.


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