Away ticket prices next season

poolymadandstupid · **Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:41 am

Supportersunited, did you say who you support then

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:41 am

poolymad wrote:

Supportersunited, did you say who you support then

Darlow.

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

Mr Creosote wrote:

Tax Paying Poolie wrote:

It was a masterstroke raising the imaginary home prices to £25 IMO.

Just to put some actual fact onto this. I do believe pools announced the new match day seat prices long before the seats were sold out.

Yep they did, but there was fck all amount of tickets left and they knew they'd sell out.

Thus making them imaginary.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:00 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

Anyone saluting clubs for increasing admission for away fans by 25% wants their head examining.

What is the annual percentage increased averaged on a year on year basis since the last time the prices went up?

I actually agree with you that 25% pa increase would be scandalous, but that isn't what this is.

I also agree with you that there has to be some rules to stop away fans being ripped off, but there is, and it's to do with like for like pricing for the home fans. It probably isn't perfect but it is better than nothing.

If there was a "cap" to what could be charged on the gate then unless it was set extremely high it would only benefit the "big clubs" with their larger fanbases and bigger stadiums and would actually be to the detriment of HUFC.

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:00 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

It is only £5, but if all clubs in the division were to follow suit it would cost a family going to a dozen away games a season a tidy sum.

Anyone saluting clubs for increasing admission for away fans by 25% wants their head examining. Then again as has been pointed out the ones celebrating don’t go away so it wont affect them. If they did then they may see things differently.

Kudos to anyone working to get prices reduced across the board for the benefit of fans.

Me thinks you are p1ssing in the wind trying to educate the lunatic fringe!!

Splod · **Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:12 pm

What we have done is within the league rules. Whether its fair or not to raise prices to £25 when all home seats are sold out is questionable (yes I know there were a handful of home tickets not sold when they annonced the price rise - but the sell out was inevitable). The risk that Pools take is that away fans will boycott the game (probably unlikely for the sake of 2 to 3 quid). More likely is that they will make a concious decision not to buy a programme and any refreshment in the ground. I seem to recall people on here making that decision at Leeds on pricing grounds and the Dongs on moral grounds. Personally I would like us to keep our reputation of being a friendly club that welcomes away supporters. We're not Leeds - and we should be proud of it. Commonsense suggests that you price your seats at a price that is near the top of the range - but not at the top of the range. That way you get the fans through the gate spending money and don't get the flak for being the most expensive.

Mr Creosote · **Joined:** Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:05 pm **Posts:** 1887

like I sAId earlier, in the moment when we sell more season tickets than ever before, and when we are all as excited as little kids as christmas, there is always a poolie, or more, waiting try and put a dampener on it all.

Just cant f-ucking help themselves.

Piss on your own pies all the time.

Well you can all debate as long as you like, name call as much as you like, I am happy with what IOR have done.

And on this "issue" (the issue is only in the heads of those looking for something to twist about) IOR get my full backing.

Mr Creosote · **Joined:** Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:05 pm **Posts:** 1887

Tax Paying Poolie wrote:

Mr Creosote wrote:

Tax Paying Poolie wrote:

It was a masterstroke raising the imaginary home prices to £25 IMO.

Just to put some actual fact onto this. I do believe pools announced the new match day seat prices long before the seats were sold out.

Yep they did, but there was fck all amount of tickets left and they knew they'd sell out.

Thus making them imaginary.

You do not know for a fact that the seats would sell out. Infact a lot of people on here were saying we didnt deserve a club for not selling enough etc etc.

So if you stick to the facts, Pools announced the match day prices before we had even sold 3000 season tickets. They took a gamble, and should be applauded for it.

And all this gnashing of gums now, is all rather needless. Russ and Ken will probably be sat there saying, what the fook is up with daft c unts now. :laugh:

supportersunited · **Joined:** Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:45 am **Posts:** 9

Mr Creosote can't stop moaning about people 'moaning'

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

Mr Creosote wrote:

And all this gnashing of gums now, is all rather needless. Russ and Ken will probably be sat there saying, what the fook is up with daft c unts now. :laugh:

Gnashing of gums? I said it was a masterstroke.

Mr Creosote · **Joined:** Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:05 pm **Posts:** 1887

I wasnt talking about you blondie.

Mr Creosote · **Joined:** Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:05 pm **Posts:** 1887

supportersunited wrote:

Mr Creosote can't stop moaning about people 'moaning'

Yes, thats right. And your point is?

By the way, have you told us who you support yet?

born toulouse · **Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:13 pm

What difference does it make? You've already said that Pools have been picked on by everybody for a hundred years so whoever he or she supports you'll call them a bunch of slightly altered spelling obscenity. I'd like to think its one of the people behind that funny QPR blog but it could be one of the Brighton fans who invented Fans United Day specially so they could beat Pools.

supportersunited · **Joined:** Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:45 am **Posts:** 9

Wycombe Wanderers

born toulouse · **Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:39 pm

Wycombe is a hard one for the conspiracy theorists to attack but you no doubt favoured the introduction of automatic promotion from the conference- a scheme specifically aimed at Pools who held the record for re-election victories. That makes you part of the hundred year war against Pools and means everyone should show what devoted Poolies they are by being rude from the safety of their keyboard.

The odd thing about Poolies with grudges is that other clubs repeatedly voted to keep us in the league even though we were shyte. If any club has reason to be grateful to others and look at the game in a wider context it is us.

supportersunited · **Joined:** Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:45 am **Posts:** 9

I have nothing to do with the people who are currently running our club on the rocks. I agree £22 is also very steep. At no point have I had a go at HUFC or Pools fans (two different groups). I have had a go at people on this board who couldn't care less what away supporters pay.

Spender · **Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:48 pm

Point is, does anyone really care?? I've never heard anyone at away games complaining about the ticket prices and I've never been taken aback at the turnstile either.

Had I been still in England I'd have gone to Leeds at 28 quid as well. It's my money and if I want to see the game I have to pay the price. It's no use bleating on about increased prices, name me one thing that goes down in price regularly.

Football clubs aren't charities and most are under massive financial pressure whilst trying to attract more fans. It's speculation for accumulation and if it's done badly you get Darlo's, Plymouth's, Portsmouth's, Rotherham's and currently Coventry and Birmingham, although Birmingham are a little different. The shit is still creeping up their neck though.

We speculated the other way, drop the price and go for quantity and achieved spectacular results. It was a big risk and could have been a disaster but the fever caught on and the potential loss is negligible and will probably not manifest itself. You get 6000 customers in and there's a big heap of spending power right under your nose. Can't really worry about the other 2-3-4-500.

You get nowt for nowt and football is no different. If someone doesn't want to pay 25 snots to come to the Vic then thats their prerogative. :wink:

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:09 pm

supportersunited wrote:

I have nothing to do with the people who are currently running our club on the rocks. I agree £22 is also very steep. At no point have I had a go at HUFC or Pools fans (two different groups). I have had a go at people on this board who couldn't care less what away supporters pay.

Are you coming to the game at our place?

ptbap · **Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:26 pm

offshorepoolie wrote:

I think its chip being an agent provocateur

A bird in sexy undies?!!

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

MadJohn wrote:

As a regular away supporter the £25 price, and the price increase in particular, sits uncomfortably with me. It seems to be specifically targetting the visiting supporter in order to recoup some of the money from the superb season ticket offer. That's a bit of a low punch. If we weren't benefitting from such a great offer - to the extent that there will be very few if any paying £25 for a home seat - there would be merry hell on at the price hike. We would not like to feel that we were being fleeced and a lot wouldn't accept it. Taking the extra cash off the travelling fans is a softer target.

I must admit that the cost of a ticket has never directly dissuaded me from going to an away game, and I would imagine it's a similar story for most fans, particularly those who support a team at one of the geographical margins. Once I've factored in the price of getting to the game, getting back, maybe staying over, it makes jack all difference to me if it's £22 or £25 for my ticket. But you do still notice. £25.50 at Charlton to sit in the pokiest seats outside of Kenilworth Road is excessive. Paying nearer thirty quid than twenty to watch Leeds is extortionate. Paying £23 to watch Swindon six years ago was a shock.

You also notice when away clubs are welcoming. You notice when it was £11 for a terrace behind the goal at Posh. You notice the warm welcome that you always get at Exeter, be it letting you celebrate on their pitch or handing out free pies. I can't even remember what the cost is at St James, which I guess proves that the entry money is only part of the impression you get of an away trip, but it's a significant part nonetheless. I have few warm feelings towards Swindon or Leeds. If it came to a point when I could choose to get to only one away game and it was between Exeter and Swindon, I'd pick Exeter every time.

Agree with most of that, I refused to pay the £27 at Leeds a few years back though. Partly because it was £27 but mainly because it was Leeds!

Hangem · **Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:48 pm

http://downatthemac.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=59310

maybe the first of many moans from away supporters

poolymadandstupid · **Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:08 pm

H99 wrote:

http://downatthemac.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=59310

maybe the first of many moans from away supporters

Blimey,maybe think again or the Rink End will be Lawrence and A.N Other for some games.

Wonder if they will boycott the Charlton game too just on the price issue. :shock:

Mr Creosote · **Joined:** Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:05 pm **Posts:** 1887

Chip Fireball wrote:

Had they put it up to £22 nobody would have noticed, and it would have made little difference to the club financially. Making us the most expensive club in League One however, given the state of the AWAY end, probably not a good idea with hindsight.

I actually see the sense of this paragraph. Believe it or not. Maybe £25 is a pound ot two too far. Can we make it £23.50 then we wont be the most expensive. :wink:

Mr Creosote · **Joined:** Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:05 pm **Posts:** 1887

H99 wrote:

http://downatthemac.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=59310

maybe the first of many moans from away supporters

There again that thread is full of the usual patronising bollox about our sunday league ground, so f-uck them the big time charlie fookwits. Make it £30 for THEM.

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

Chip Fireball wrote:

The last couple of seasons when moneys been tight I have been picking and choosing my away games, and I've deffo kept clear of those charging over the odds. The only exception being Charlton last season, though I'd be very, very, reluctant to go again at £25 a pop.

To suggest people are being anti-IOR, or that Russ and Ken would be offended by any of the posts on this thread is plain daft. People are giving constructive criticism which is what the club asked for.

Had they put it up to £22 nobody would have noticed, and it would have made little difference to the club financially. Making us the most expensive club in League One however, given the state of the AWAY end, probably not a good idea with hindsight.

The Chipsters back with a great post clappp

Spender · **Posted:** Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:04 pm

I know no-one's done the maths yet and posted it but we had to travel 10.000 miles to away games last season. Now I'm open to criticism here but I'd say that's gone down about a third.

That means it's gone down for a lot of clubs fans over the season although we're an extremity. Bournemouth and Yeovil might be a bit narked but there's no Southampton, Plymouth, Bristol and Swindon for us and neither do their fans have to travel to our place. Sheffield United, Chesterfield, Preston, Scunthorpe and Bury do.

I'm sure the club looked at that and though there was a fiver to spare and acted accordingly.

One the one hand everyone thinks the marketing has been brilliant, and it has, on the other, people are critisising the same people about a fiver a game.

You all got your tickets for fvck all and snatched the clubs hand off.

Make your mind up.....

So is a fiver gained on travel a loss at the gate?? I don't think so.

Fetish_Bob · **Posted:** Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:29 pm

You can say £5 is a large increase and in one go it is. On the other hand when was the last time Pools actually put the gate price up. I'm not sure here but I think it would be somewhere like 07/08 possible 08/09, so if we had increased it the last two seasons we would have reached £24/£25 anyway. I'm not looking to explain the increase but there's one if you want one.

It's like next season, lets say Pools increase the season ticket price to £150 some will complain that compared to this season that's a 50% increase and too much in one go. Others like me and many more on here will actually say that it's still a 50+% decrease over the previous two seasons.

Take the overall increase over a couple of seasons and it may not have looked as bad. I can't remember Huddersfield (or any other teams fan's) congratulating Pools for freezing the price over the last two seasons and even taking the VAT increase as a hit, when they could have increased the price then as well.

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:42 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

The last couple of seasons when moneys been tight I have been picking and choosing my away games, and I've deffo kept clear of those charging over the odds. The only exception being Charlton last season, though I'd be very, very, reluctant to go again at £25 a pop.

To suggest people are being anti-IOR, or that Russ and Ken would be offended by any of the posts on this thread is plain daft. People are giving constructive criticism which is what the club asked for.

Had they put it up to £22 nobody would have noticed, and it would have made little difference to the club financially. Making us the most expensive club in League One however, given the state of the AWAY end, probably not a good idea with hindsight.

What state exactly is the away end in?

I thought it looked in decent nick and that numpty from Uddersfield complaining about restrictive view

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:40 am

Fetish_Bob wrote:

You can say £5 is a large increase and in one go it is. On the other hand when was the last time Pools actually put the gate price up. I'm not sure here but I think it would be somewhere like 07/08 possible 08/09, so if we had increased it the last two seasons we would have reached £24/£25 anyway. I'm not looking to explain the increase but there's one if you want one.

It's like next season, lets say Pools increase the season ticket price to £150 some will complain that compared to this season that's a 50% increase and too much in one go. Others like me and many more on here will actually say that it's still a 50+% decrease over the previous two seasons.

Take the overall increase over a couple of seasons and it may not have looked as bad. I can't remember Huddersfield (or any other teams fan's) congratulating Pools for freezing the price over the last two seasons and even taking the VAT increase as a hit, when they could have increased the price then as well.

I made a similar point on page 4 of this thread Mr Bob.

I think that the people who think this is a steep price rise put my comments in the "too difficult" box and carried on with their 25% increase and ripping off away fans line. :wink:

no6bus · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:55 pm **Posts:** 5096

dont know if its been mentioned but it not only does it affect away fans we will have to pay the increased prices for cup games unless the club lower the prices for cup games

Fetish_Bob · **Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:00 pm

no6bus wrote:

dont know if its been mentioned but it not only does it affect away fans we will have to pay the increased prices for cup games unless the club lower the prices for cup games

And that can only be done if both clubs are in agreement, So it could be £20 and £25 to watch Pools against Bugbrooke St Michaels.

if agreement can't be reached then the FA decide the price.

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:09 pm

Fetish_Bob wrote:

no6bus wrote:

dont know if its been mentioned but it not only does it affect away fans we will have to pay the increased prices for cup games unless the club lower the prices for cup games

And that can only be done if both clubs are in agreement, So it could be £20 and £25 to watch Pools against Bugbrooke St Michaels.

if agreement can't be reached then the FA decide the price.

What league are Bugbrooke in Bob

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:34 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

Yes Ripper, you also stated on page 2 of this thread :

"We've been getting fked and fleeced at away games for many many years, extortionate pricing and pokey allocations or poked into a corner of a stand are commonplace "

You were asked to list all those away grounds you have been to in the last 5 or 6 seasons where this has happened, and we are all still waiting for an answer.

We wont get one of course, because as is the case with most of the stuff you post on here, it's just stuff you either culled from the Daily Mail, or made up.

If it's as commonplace as you reckon it should be very easy to produce a list. :wink:

That was quite a good attempt at still not addressing the points I raised, have you ever thought about a career in politics? I hear that The Daily Mail could probably help you with some policies. :wink:

Away grounds where Pools fans have been ripped off and / or badly treated by the home club in recent seasons? Hows about Norwich, QPR, Charlton, Blackpool, Brighton, Leeds, Notts Forest, Bradford and Swindon as a few examples?

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:11 pm

If away supporters want to watch their team at Pools they'll pay £25....same as we do and have for many a year!!!! confised

It makes me laugh that some think they won't turn up cos it's 2/3/4 etc quid more!!!! :laugh:

I've payed £25 to watch Pools on numerous occasions....(then went to the pub after 10 minutes like)!!!! :uhoh:

mick ronsons mullet · **Joined:** Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:48 pm **Posts:** 679

Same here. Apart from Leeds and maybe Charlton away, what are they exactly?

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:18 pm

Great to see Mr.Fireball back....and on his usual top form!!!! clappp

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:18 pm

I didn't mention the last 5 or 6 years, you did. And only teams who are in our division now are allowed to count? Are we meant to erase everything from before then from our minds?

Have you accepted that averaged over the period since the last price increase on an annual basis then this price change now isn't as simple as labelling it is a 25% increase seeing as though you want to turn it into a discussion on your experiences of away games?

mick ronsons mullet · **Joined:** Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:48 pm **Posts:** 679

As far as our own price increase goes, ive been on other boards where they were discussing our season ticket offer, and they sort of understood we were taking a big financial risk and the need to charge £25 for away fans. They didnt seem too bothered by it really. Most league one fans are pretty sussed to why we are doing it.

Fetish_Bob · **Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:43 pm

monkeybutt wrote:

What league are Bugbrooke in Bob

Play in two leagues the UCL and the Northamptom combination.

parmo · **Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:58 pm

born toulouse wrote:

but it could be one of the Brighton fans who invented Fans United Day specially so they could beat Pools.

I would never ever be convinced otherwise that they did not hand pick that game, of all games. Oh yes they did, and what ref was going to stand in the way of a home win that day in the face of such intimidation?

Fetish_Bob · **Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:40 pm

Clubs shouldn't put up prices every year. But like most things inflation comes in to consideration. VAT went up to 20% in January 2011, now if other clubs are still taking the hit because of that I applaud them.

Let's say last season 1000 people paying £20 that's £20000 VAT at 17 1/2 % means Pools pay £3,500 to tax man or in other words the club gets £16500.

Now lets say 1000 pay £25 that's £25,000 the tax man gets £5,000 or in other words again Pools get £20,000. An increase of £3,500 but everything else they pay due to inflation has gone up (what's the bill for floodlights each home game)

Now lets increase the gate entry to £22 (which a lot say would have been a reasonable increase) Pools get £22,000 tax man gets £4400 Pools make £17,600 or in other words £1,100 more than last season. or on 1000 away fans £1:10p per person.

Now if we work on the lowest number fans in the away end last season (87) Pools take £1740, VAT man gets £197:75 (at 17 1/2%) Pools get £1642:25. Now we increase the gate entry to £22 and use the lowest figure again (87) Pools take £1914 VAT man gets (now 20%) £478:50 so Pools get £1435:50 or £206:75p LESS THAN LAST SEASON.

Now we had away attendances of less than 200 thirteen times last season, and only 5 above 500 maybe those figures were taken into account.

I don't think it's as black and white as some think.

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:28 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

Jesus Wept. It was £20 last season, its now £25. However you want to dress it up that is a 25% increase, and it makes us the most expensive team to visit in League One.

The hike is excessive, that can't be denied but to say we are the the most expensive team to visit in League quite simply isn't true. For one at least one club has the same admission price and two I reckon in the ground we are the cheapest. It's gone up 50p for this season but I doubt you'll find another ground in the football league were you can buy a pint for £2.50?? So visiting other grounds people will spend more, also I'm certain £2 will be clagged onto many of those prices for pay on the day punters as well.

Jonny · **Posted:** Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:00 am

It's quite hard to fill a mini bus for away games these days and the reason it is hard just comes down to cost. I don't know how the corner flag are doing with their buses but I've been on a few from the engineers that had multiple spare seats which wasn't the case 5-6 years ago. It was difficult getting onto a coach because there were always people wanting to go...

As well as the ticket prices, beer and food has also jumped in price in the last 5-6 years as has the hire costs or fuel costs. Unless you have pre booked early bird tickets the train can't even be considered for an away day - even the early bird prices are a fortune usually. I see away days as a luxury now, they need to planned for weeks in advance because of the cost. I used to earn a lot less money 6-7 years ago but used to go to 12-13 away games a season, now it is more like 6 or 7.

If we take MK on Saturday as an example for cost - train prices are at over £100 if booked now and the return doesn't even get you back into Hartlepool on Saturday night. I am going on a mini bus and it is likely to be £25 (once the driver is tipped) and that's as long as no one drops out in the last minute. It's £20 in if you don't buy The Sun. 2 snacks or meals are likely to be £10 if you are lucky. Cans for the bus £5. 3 pints at MK likely to be £10 or more. So you are looking at being £70 lighter probably closer to £80 and that doesn't include your beers down church street when you get back or taxi home.... All in all the day will probably cost me £120-£140. 6-7 years ago I reckon the same day would cost about £70-£80.

Although initially I thought charging £25 was a good idea, on reflection it does seem like a step too far and is only going to put fans off coming....

Mr Creosote · **Joined:** Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:05 pm **Posts:** 1887

5700 people think the £100 season ticket is a fantastic deal.

If away fans have to pay extra for us to make the vic a fortress then I for one am happy with that.

If we make a good start this season and the vic is bouncing, but no away fans turn up because of the price, that will only make it even more intimidating surely?

Which would be nice.

born toulouse · **Posted:** Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:01 am

Why would you want the thread locked? There's been reasonable argument on all sides and people back from holidays, or who just don't bother with the board much over the summer, might want to chip in. Might even get some input from away fans once we get close to some meaning ful matches.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

foo_kintit wrote:

Is wanting to lock the thread,another way of saying ive lost the debate

it looks that why.

I see no reason to lock threads, dont read them if your not interested in the discussion anymore.

Compo · **Posted:** Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:32 am

Chip Fireball wrote:

Offshore once again you completely miss the point. The seating areas for home fans are completely sold out. Once it was clear that was going to be the case Pools decided to whack the only seats unsold i.e. in the away end, up to £25. That was cynical however you look at it. Especially as the prices for standing, areas restricted to home fans, only went up by £2 .

Rather than asking to get the thread locked try answering the question raised : Why was it so wrong for Leeds to do it, but right for us to do it ? If it helps I can dig out the thread where we all commented on the Leeds price rise so you can see just how angry people were at the time .

I thought the £25 was announced before we had sold out of the home seats?

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:37 pm

Spender · **Posted:** Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:37 pm

I think the reason people were annoyed about what Leeds did, is not because of the price solely, but the fact that they classified Pools as a category 'A' team when clearly this wasn't the case.

That was the cynical bit.

alienlife · **Posted:** Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:11 pm

Personally I have no issue with the visiting fans being charged more for tickets this year than they were last, though I would have preferred us to use a category system where followers of clubs who we know will fill the away end if it was £40 a ticket and generally create higher policing and stewarding demands are charged more than the die hard type fans who will travel up from Yeovil, Bournemouth or Exeter and the fans who like us follow a perennially unfashionable team like Walsall, Wycombe or Leyton Orient should be a more reasonable price.

If we charge £28 a head to the Sheffields, Huddersfield, and Preston then they will pay it, charge some of the smaller clubs that aren't too far away £21 and maybe drop it to £18 for the long distance away fans it would make Hartlepool look like a club who cares about its travelling supporters as much as its own fans to most fans. I don't care if we price the big time Charlie fans of certain clubs out of the market because (with the exception of Preston who I am sure are lovely folk) these fans and their clubs have a 'we should be in the premier league attitude' and the wouldn't moan at paying £40 to watch their side play in soulless bowls like the Riverside or at a half empty JJB stadium.

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