Thats what a striker should be doing unlike Moore who runs about and never looks liek scoring or creating all game.

If Wilson cant see that Moore should be dropped and Porter starting next game then he can f*** off for all I care. Everyone can see it but him.

I agree that Moore is pants but

"If Wilson cant see that Moore should be dropped and Porter starting next game then he can f*** off for all I care"

Thats just stupid. Im sure he has the sense to drop Moore but he must be wanting to give them plenty of time to try and 'gel'

So in effect you're saying that if Joel Porter isn't picked for the next game you'd wish the manager gone??

Yes??

Obviously its an over reaction but if he cant see it now then he never will. Our forward line of Barker and Moore is a complete joke.

silly billy!

I am over the moon with the start that Pools have made to the season but I'm a bit pissed off that Wilson seems to have his favourites. Elliott, Moore, Antwi haven't really been made to work for the shirt. When other players have performed when given the chance (ie Foley) they haven't been rewarded with a run in the team which seems a little unfair.

Favourites!?

He dragged both Moore and Elliot off at half time yesterday, hardly a sign of favoritism really

Foley is an impact player ideal when defenders are tiring, he got nearly a full game at Sheff Wed and didn't do a lot infact he was poor. I'm sure he'd have got at least twenty minutes yesterday had Nelson not turned over on his ankle.

Foley played at Sheff Wed (from the bench) - but in the wrong phuqing posistion.

The Moore and Barker combo isn't working just like many thought it wouldn't. Wilson does appear to have favourites and you can add Ali G to his list of favourites if you like........

in other words, the players he has signed

Fair point about Foley he did play on the left at Hillsborough but I think he's the type of player who will be more effective coming on in the last 20 minutes.

Ali G did OK yesterday as he did at Leeds. I'm sure Moore and Elliot won't be starting next week and I don't think Wilson will give the fact whether he signed them a second thought.

MadJohn - you are superb with stats, It would be interesting to know what Foley's goals to minutes on pitch ratio is this season. And it would be good to compare that with Poter and Moore's as well.


PJ - Foley has never been given two starts in a row up front. He will still beat off side traps and run players ragged from the start. He just needs a chance. People think he is just an impact player because that is alll he is being used as.

Players should have to earn the shirt but that hasn't been the case at Pools so far this season......

*And Willie Boland is superb, hopefully he is back soon......

Moore hasn't done as badly as you are making out though and our performances have been good. We beat Oldham four one the week before last then outplayed Leeds, its hardly as if it was crying out for wholesale changes. or a case of people not 'earning the shirt' Yesterday was an off day for Moore, Barker and the team in general, Porter came on and scored a great goal so next week he'll get his chance.

From open play the stats would look quite different for Barker. Not saying he is not worth his place but needs to play with someone hungry to score goals.

I'm no Sherlock Homes but from open play it would read:

Barker, 790, 0, 790
Moore, 598, 2, 299
Brown, 740, 4, 185
Porter, 273, 2, 136
Foley, 211, 3, 70

And that is very different.

Thats a bit worrying like!

Of the 4 new outfield players I would say
Elliot - subs bench,gives us nothing Humphries cant
Antwi - not up to it yet,subs bench & bring back Clark
Moore - nowhere near the standard of Porter,subs bench
McCunnie - sound,play him every week

Budtz & Barrat - Budtz is doing fine no reason to lose his place,Barrat will just have to be patient.

I felt a bit sorry for Barker yesterday, he was in a great position yesterday when Joel skinned their defender. If Joel had cut it back, he'd have easily scored but the defender blocked it. The look on his face was one of 'am I ever going to score from open play'.

He'll come good again, especially when Joel is back with him.

Agreed, I can see the point with Antwi and McCunnie, both stepping up a level
and wanting to impress. Although Antwi, has now shown he can't do it consistently.

The other two (like Scotty's signings) dropping down a level and thinking they are too
good for League 1

Mmmmm............the smell of hairs splitting.........

Well, in the chat room on Sat'day, some of us, including patient ones like me, were sort of grumbling that Moore didn't seem to be cutting it (in as far as you can tell from a sound commentary).
So what did Wilson do?

Sounds like sound (no pun intended) management to me.

Probably not Dibbs. We are third in the league (but also 5 points off a relegation spot) nevertheless we are third. The frustration is that itcould be even better if we played Clark and Porter/Foley instead of Antwi and Moore.

There is absolutely no proof of that. To say that, what you think might have happened, is what would have happened is to say the least a bit forward.......

David Foley and Ben Clarke would have got us up to 8 more points between them??

You really think so??

Up to? up to? Go on, exagerate the point. The demonstrable fact is that the combo of Barker and Moore simply does not work. They have scored two goals from open play this season. Porter and Foley have scored five between them from the bench. Do the math Kevin. Of course there's no proof that they would have scored but theres plenty of proof that the alternative doesn't work.

Who's to say we wouldn't have done worse? Its not like we've leaked goals by the boat load is it? Antwi in certain situations is better than Ben Clark, he is twice as quick for a start. Clark is a good player we all know that, but we are in the top six in league one people are far too quick to judge/write off new signings.

Ooohhhh that's even worse than 'me-bloody-thinks' and Dibble's 'fillums......' Please tell me it's a typing error. I can feel Pet Hates Pt X coming on.

Here's some maths for you. Only two teams have reached double figures in the league for goals scored so far. Us and Leeds. We notched another six in three Cup games as well. Clearly there is no goalscoring problem at the club, unless you consider that it is deeply important who scores the goals, when and how.

So what's all the grief about??

I still remain convinced that you shouldn't keep a player in the side purely because the other ten around him are all performing excellent. There is no logic in that.