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Beat Rochdale on pens, off to Wembley


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Aye, and it all kicked off afterwards with fans fighting on the pitch.

All live on BBC Tees after the Pools game ended.


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Matty Dolan scored one of their pens and gets a day on the pitch at Wembley, barring injuries. Football is a funny old game.


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Graeme Lee does seem to be a bit of a cup specialist. Good luck to him after the shabby way he was treated at Pools.


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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Graeme Lee does seem to be a bit of a cup specialist. Good luck to him after the shabby way he was treated at Pools.


My thoughts exactly :wink:


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Delighted for Spenny- what a result!
Apparently Rochdale's second was a controversial penalty- pity it descended into chaos afterwards


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Still with a chance of them making the play offs too. Brilliant.


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Would love to see Spenny in the NL. Not sure that they could compete with their fanbase and infrastructure but under GL they would certainly give it a go.


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Smokin Joe wrote:
Would love to see Spenny in the NL. Not sure that they could compete with their fanbase and infrastructure but under GL they would certainly give it a go.


A lot of wealthy people in Durham are starting to take notice of the superb job Lee is doing. If they win the cup and get promoted someone will be very interested in them. :wink:


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Leggie43 wrote:
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Would love to see Spenny in the NL. Not sure that they could compete with their fanbase and infrastructure but under GL they would certainly give it a go.


A lot of wealthy people in Durham are starting to take notice of the superb job Lee is doing. If they win the cup and get promoted someone will be very interested in them. :wink:


Sing :lol:
Soon be back in the northern league.


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Tees commentary on the penalty save.
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 Post subject: Re: Spennymoor
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Leggie43 wrote:
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Graeme Lee does seem to be a bit of a cup specialist. Good luck to him after the shabby way he was treated at Pools.


My thoughts exactly :wink:


This 100%
And at the time a fair few agreed with the decision.

It's that be careful what you wish for chestnut with a tint of Hindsight.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Graeme Lee does seem to be a bit of a cup specialist. Good luck to him after the shabby way he was treated at Pools.


My thoughts exactly :wink:


This 100%
And at the time a fair few agreed with the decision.

It's that be careful what you wish for chestnut with a tint of Hindsight.

take away any sentiment the facts say the we have never got close to the position in the league we achieved under him. for some 17th in the league was a disaster but even they would take that now or even 20th. if he had stayed and tried his worst it would have been hard to have achieved what happened a few months later.


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Smokin Joe wrote:
Would love to see Spenny in the NL. Not sure that they could compete with their fanbase and infrastructure but under GL they would certainly give it a go.

i wouldn,t as they,d be serious competetors to who we could sign.


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Said before Lees biggest mistake was bringing Nelson in, all he ever did was stand on the touchline with his hands in his pockets.


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well done Simmo will be happy.

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accrington fan wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Graeme Lee does seem to be a bit of a cup specialist. Good luck to him after the shabby way he was treated at Pools.


My thoughts exactly :wink:


This 100%
And at the time a fair few agreed with the decision.

It's that be careful what you wish for chestnut with a tint of Hindsight.

take away any sentiment the facts say the we have never got close to the position in the league we achieved under him. for some 17th in the league was a disaster but even they would take that now or even 20th. if he had stayed and tried his worst it would have been hard to have achieved what happened a few months later.


It all seemed to fall apart after the Rotherham game. We were shocking, to be fair- almost akin to '93 goal drought after beating Palace.

I don't think he was helped by the fact that Raj took an absolute age to appoint him after DC left, and we were all whelmed by the outcome.

That said the nature of his dismissal, before the last game of the season was embarrassing and was the beginning of our current self inflicted decline. Which started with the disastrous penny pinching Sweaty experiment :angry-screaming:


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Kettering Poolie wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Graeme Lee does seem to be a bit of a cup specialist. Good luck to him after the shabby way he was treated at Pools.


My thoughts exactly :wink:


This 100%
And at the time a fair few agreed with the decision.

It's that be careful what you wish for chestnut with a tint of Hindsight.

take away any sentiment the facts say the we have never got close to the position in the league we achieved under him. for some 17th in the league was a disaster but even they would take that now or even 20th. if he had stayed and tried his worst it would have been hard to have achieved what happened a few months later.


It all seemed to fall apart after the Rotherham game. We were shocking, to be fair- almost akin to '93 goal drought after beating Palace.

I don't think he was helped by the fact that Raj took an absolute age to appoint him after DC left, and we were all whelmed by the outcome.

That said the nature of his dismissal, before the last game of the season was embarrassing and was the beginning of our current self inflicted decline. Which started with the disastrous penny pinching Sweaty experiment :angry-screaming:


One thing is guaranteed Raj despite achieving promotion as owner will go down in our history as a shambles and clueless idiot. He had the golden egg firmly in his hands after winning the playoffs. We all thought it was a given he would take full advantage of promotion and huge crowds and push it because with a bit of ambition he had a the chance to ride the wave to more success but instead pulled the plug on just about everything and for that alone he will never be forgiven. BTW do you all realise he " Sulked like a baby " and ignored his own plan to sit up top on the bus during parade. That was the main reason the bus was late from the Vic carpark. With engine running and staff and players getting excited he just sat with a drink on his own inside the ground. The reason I was given back then was he hated D.C. getting all the attention from media and supporters so spat out the dummy big style. Thats when the alarm bells starting ringing inside the club.....


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 Post subject: Re: Spennymoor
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One thing is guaranteed Raj despite achieving promotion as owner will go down in our history as a shambles and clueless idiot. He had the golden egg firmly in his hands after winning the playoffs. We all thought it was a given he would take full advantage of promotion and huge crowds and push it because with a bit of ambition he had a the chance to ride the wave to more success but instead pulled the plug on just about everything and for that alone he will never be forgiven. BTW do you all realise he " Sulked like a baby " and ignored his own plan to sit up top on the bus during parade. That was the main reason the bus was late from the Vic carpark. With engine running and staff and players getting excited he just sat with a drink on his own inside the ground. The reason I was given back then was he hated D.C. getting all the attention from media and supporters so spat out the dummy big style. Thats when the alarm bells starting ringing inside the club.....
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really what did he expect things to be like. even if he was the best owner ever in football he would come 3rd in the eyes of the fans behind the players themselves and then the manager. its the players who should have been upset if it had all been about him and not them who achieved it.


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Too quick to sack managers. Under Lee, once we were out of the cup just seemed the players took it easy with nothing really left to play for.

Good day for our better managers sacked, Truro hit the top of Conference South. Unlucky Astley, had those remnants of the Hartley team and then some investment in January just after he was sacked. Good to see him showing his ability again.


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Too quick to sack managers. Under Lee, once we were out of the cup just seemed the players took it easy with nothing really left to play for.

Good day for our better managers sacked, Truro hit the top of Conference South. Unlucky Astley, had those remnants of the Hartley team and then some investment in January just after he was sacked. Good to see him showing his ability again.


I got told he only got rid of Lee because he promised him a the budget he asked to invest in a better squad in the coming summer if Lee could produce certain levels of income via cup runs and he more than achieved that figure. Lee took him at his word so after that semi final defeat he started to ask questions about players of interest to sign in the summer to completely change the level of quality in the squad. He sacked him and distributed the money to himself and I believe sage to pay off loans etc. Then give a much smaller budget to his replacement. I got that of someone in the know make of it what you want. :wink:


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A controversial thought but one I have often externalised; Had we not sacked Hignett in 2016/7 we would have stayed in the EFL and similarly had we not sacked Graeme Lee at the end of the 2022 season we would not have been relegated the following season. I use "we" to mean Hartlepool United and not to mean Raj Singh or any of his predecessors. And yes, I have the gift of hindsight.


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mark_fletcher wrote:
A controversial thought but one I have often externalised; Had we not sacked Hignett in 2017/8 we would have stayed in the EFL and similarly had we not sacked Graeme Lee at the end of the 2022 season we would not have been relegated the following season. I use "we" meaning Hartlepool United not Raji Singh or any of his predecessors. And yes, I have the gift of hindsight.


I reckon you are spot on with that assessment Mark :wink:


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Wasn’t convince by Lee here though he was clearly better than some of the fuckwits who followed him, that being said you can’t fail to be happy for him with the story arohbd his family etc. good luck to Spenny


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Leggie43 wrote:
Snailwood2 wrote:
Too quick to sack managers. Under Lee, once we were out of the cup just seemed the players took it easy with nothing really left to play for.

Good day for our better managers sacked, Truro hit the top of Conference South. Unlucky Astley, had those remnants of the Hartley team and then some investment in January just after he was sacked. Good to see him showing his ability again.


I got told he only got rid of Lee because he promised him a the budget he asked to invest in a better squad in the coming summer if Lee could produce certain levels of income via cup runs and he more than achieved that figure. Lee took him at his word so after that semi final defeat he started to ask questions about players of interest to sign in the summer to completely change the level of quality in the squad. He sacked him and distributed the money to himself and I believe sage to pay off loans etc. Then give a much smaller budget to his replacement. I got that of someone in the know make of it what you want. :wink:


Reckon there might be some truth in that.
Didn't we offer a contract for the following season to Matty (forget his surname) a midfielder we had, think on loan from borer, which he agreed to and then Raj withdrew the offer in the summer. Sure the lad (who was also originally from Hartlepool) then signed for Harrogate. Think he's still playing in League 2


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Don’t want to be the fly in the ointment but what about the run in to the end of the season where we collapsed on the pitch, people on here weren’t so understanding then…..if they care to go back and read the comments on here at the time.

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Agree, our league form was disastrous and rumours were that we were likely to be signing a few Boro kids that Lee when he was their U21 coach Fletcher (who looked way out of his depth in div4) being the key one. Also he hasn't got Nelson as assistant anymore, it's Ian Clarke I think - could make a massive difference, look at Clough without Taylor.
Good luck to Spenny and Spike though. He was treat badly all things considered in the way he wasn't even allowed to finish the season.


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Hats off to Spenny, pleased for them. Might even take a look down on the 11th May, but I say that every year when a NE team is involved in either the Vase or the Trophy, though never get.

That will be the second time Spennymoor have been to Wembley :roll:

I honestly think Pools wouldn't get to Wembley if they were competing in the FA Vase.

Just like the Carabao Cup win was massive for Newcastle, every year I make a case for Pools getting to and winning the FA Trophy at Wembley. In terms of the club growing, at the moment this would be more important than getting to and losing in the play offs. Of course in reality we do neither.

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Agree, our league form was disastrous and rumours were that we were likely to be signing a few Boro kids that Lee when he was their U21 coach Fletcher (who looked way out of his depth in div4) being the key one. Also he hasn't got Nelson as assistant anymore, it's Ian Clarke I think - could make a massive difference, look at Clough without Taylor.
Good luck to Spenny and Spike though. He was treat badly all things considered in the way he wasn't even allowed to finish the season.


It's an extremely difficult job managing Pools under Sing.
Only DC has conquered it and apparently Sing got super jealous that DC got the Kings Crown.
I'm sure he will become a championship manager could even be next season.


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But he was always going to leave when a pot of gold was dangled in front of him, didn't he go for an interview last season with a London club last season without permission from Stockport? I think if he'd stayed with us he would probably have had a shot at the Sunderland job by now.
The Pools job has always been a poisoned chalice, but Raj is probably the most trigger happy chairman I can think of.


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PTID...finally seen the light with Raj.


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PTID...finally seen the light with Raj.


Finally :lol:


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But he was always going to leave when a pot of gold was dangled in front of him, didn't he go for an interview last season with a London club last season without permission from Stockport? I think if he'd stayed with us he would probably have had a shot at the Sunderland job by now.
The Pools job has always been a poisoned chalice, but Raj is probably the most trigger happy chairman I can think of.


If you have talent or ambition then Pools is the wrong club for you.

Good on your cv like to make yourself stand out.

Only better ownership can eradicate this current decline not getting fairytale luck of keep doing the same shit n hope it works. :angry-tappingfoot:


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Agree, our league form was disastrous and rumours were that we were likely to be signing a few Boro kids that Lee when he was their U21 coach Fletcher (who looked way out of his depth in div4) being the key one. Also he hasn't got Nelson as assistant anymore, it's Ian Clarke I think - could make a massive difference, look at Clough without Taylor.
Good luck to Spenny and Spike though. He was treat badly all things considered in the way he wasn't even allowed to finish the season.


It's an extremely difficult job managing Pools under Sing.
Only DC has conquered it and apparently Sing got super jealous that DC got the Kings Crown.
I'm sure he will become a championship manager could even be next season.

think he would either of sacked challinor or he would have been forced out of the club by him. a real clash of personalities where the winner would only be the owner no matter what DC did.


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Hats off to Spenny, pleased for them. Might even take a look down on the 11th May, but I say that every year when a NE team is involved in either the Vase or the Trophy, though never get.

That will be the second time Spennymoor have been to Wembley :roll:

I honestly think Pools wouldn't get to Wembley if they were competing in the FA Vase.

Just like the Carabao Cup win was massive for Newcastle, every year I make a case for Pools getting to and winning the FA Trophy at Wembley. In terms of the club growing, at the moment this would be more important than getting to and losing in the play offs. Of course in reality we do neither.

we were in a perfect position to have a crack at it this season where as a club we were not going to go up or down. it would have meant more for the fans than it would for other clubs who have been there before. wembley must be the shittiest place to get to and play a game but you,d take it once in your lifetime.


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But he was always going to leave when a pot of gold was dangled in front of him, didn't he go for an interview last season with a London club last season without permission from Stockport? I think if he'd stayed with us he would probably have had a shot at the Sunderland job by now.
The Pools job has always been a poisoned chalice, but Raj is probably the most trigger happy chairman I can think of.


There you go PTID and to think me n thee fell out big style a while back due to our opinions of Raj being the total opposite. Never mind though we may never be friends but we no longer enemies and do now respect and discuss each others opinions. Nice to see you changed your opinion at least it proves you are a open minded individual something we all need to learn from. Its not about being wrong or right its more about not letting our opinion dominate others who disagree instead of a least discussing and considering others opinions. If leaders of countries tried more to discuss and find common ground as opposed to wars the World would be a much happier place for us all to live together. :wink: clappp


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What opinion have I changed then? I've said many times Raj is trigger happy re sacking managers. Lee should have been given a transfer window and the following season imo, as should Philips, Askey should have been allowed to bring in reinforcements, imo.
Regardless of owner the managers job at Pools is a poisoned chalice, probably more so now.


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What opinion have I changed then? I've said many times Raj is trigger happy re sacking managers. Lee should have been given a transfer window and the following season imo, as should Philips, Askey should have been allowed to bring in reinforcements, imo.
Regardless of owner the managers job at Pools is a poisoned chalice, probably more so now.

so poisoned as they cannot win. good ones and bad ones all lumped together and got rid of to suit one mans agenda. big question is who will be in charge next season and who is daft enough to take the job if skippy gets the boot.


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What opinion have I changed then? I've said many times Raj is trigger happy re sacking managers. Lee should have been given a transfer window and the following season imo, as should Philips, Askey should have been allowed to bring in reinforcements, imo.
Regardless of owner the managers job at Pools is a poisoned chalice, probably more so now.


It seems you have changed your opinion of Raj because you always championed him or at least backed him when most had made up their minds he needed to go. Its the first time you have said something negative about the man so that indicates to me you have now got a different opinion. BTW I was praising you not attacking or mocking you in that post. And it was aimed at everyone of us on this board as a group. Everyone is entitled to opinions and they all need respecting by all of us. I have changed my opinions many times over the years but it doesn’t necessarily mean I got it wrong in the first place. We can all change opinion based of new information or finding out someone or something was not quiet the way we thought. My general view is if anyone has a change of opinion on any subject its better to say so than to continue along the wrong path. :wink:


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What opinion have I changed though, I've said for years he's trigger happy so no change there?


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PTID wrote:
What opinion have I changed though, I've said for years he's trigger happy so no change there?


Then I apologise if I misunderstood your past posts. :wink:


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Highlights,
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I really enjoyed that. :-D


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I really enjoyed that. :-D


Thanks Mutley, the commentator was a bit over the top though.


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Shite....Simmo was brilliant. Done exactly the same with Pools. :cool:


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Shite....Simmo was brilliant. Done exactly the same with Pools. :cool:


Apologies Mutley I didn’t recognise his voice.


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Shite....Simmo was brilliant. Done exactly the same with Pools. :cool:



Yet another massive " bollock " dropped by the Raj. banghead But " Mark " my words he is coming back soon. :wink: clappp


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2025 2:41 pm 
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Jamie1952 wrote:
MutleyRules wrote:
Shite....Simmo was brilliant. Done exactly the same with Pools. :cool:


Apologies Mutley I didn’t recognise his voice.


I am soooo sorrrrry Mutley. :laugh:Will you still be my frend. :roll:


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Hats off to Spenny, pleased for them. Might even take a look down on the 11th May, but I say that every year when a NE team is involved in either the Vase or the Trophy, though never get.

That will be the second time Spennymoor have been to Wembley :roll:

I honestly think Pools wouldn't get to Wembley if they were competing in the FA Vase.

Just like the Carabao Cup win was massive for Newcastle, every year I make a case for Pools getting to and winning the FA Trophy at Wembley. In terms of the club growing, at the moment this would be more important than getting to and losing in the play offs. Of course in reality we do neither.

we were in a perfect position to have a crack at it this season where as a club we were not going to go up or down. it would have meant more for the fans than it would for other clubs who have been there before. wembley must be the shittiest place to get to and play a game but you,d take it once in your lifetime.


Yep ! spot on Accy.

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A couple of things for Pools to take note of there, in view of their upcoming game at Rochdale, the training ground goal from the corner, the dive by the Rochdale player for the penalty, and where the penalty taker placed the penalty/penalties.

I actually thought Rochdale might have had an off day, in order for Spennymoor to get a draw, but the highlights suggest Rochdale played well. Looking at the way they move the ball about/around, and they did this last season as well, I expect them to tear Pools a new one, but we'll see.

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