Stick it your arse, it’s a christian country.

No it isn't, it's a secular state. You're very preachy for an atheist.

The culture is based on Christian Moral values.
Check the Constitution.

Should a Brit living in say Thailand or India be allowed to celebrate Christmas?

Second point, as everyone knows, we don’t have a written constitution to check but we have something equivalent made up of laws. Our laws say everyone in this country has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion etc. Christmas, Eid, Diwali, Holi, Passover…. Whatever. People do what they need to do and good luck to them because it doesn’t affect anyone other than ‘the easily offended.’

This thread could be deemed a bit 'racist'....derwent are you going to 'investigate'??

Just because we don’t have a written constitution is irrelevant it’s still a basis of our none written constitution to pacify the pedantic nitpicked in the room It’s perceptions are based on Judeo/ Christian principles in our society .
Does every religion have the same tolerance of other religions …in practice that is, not in arty farty wishy washy dreamland theory.

For me it’s not about race, it’s about this country’s entire culture and freedoms being gleefully handed over to a barbarian invading force. Just wait for the next step.

Trump was right when he said that the first Islamist nuclear power will be the UK

a case for christians is if you do not use it you,ll lose it. at times you would think there is only 2 religeons in this country when there are at least 3 others, hindu, sikhs and jews in big numbers also with a few other smaller ones about. surely we do not want to go back to the days of when your job was only secure if you went to church on a sunday, being pointed out as a non church gower or recieve shit at school because you were an non believer. over the last few years both the church of england and the catholic church have been proved to be not exactly squeeky clean either.

Around 7% of the U.K. population are Muslims, they tend to have big families I can see some time in the future civil war maybe in 40/50 years will happen in the U.K., Christians v Muslims.

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Neither myself or Mr I deem it to be racist (see his latest post on this thread).

then what side will the other religeons be on. doubt there will be many childless couples from them others. feel this is where the right wing have got things wrong by the stokeing up this muslim/christian thing. in the street if you pass an asian man you do not really know if he is a muslim or a hindu the same way as you cannot tell the difference between a white catholic or a protestant but a lot think every brown face is a muslim.

IMO all religion is shit, there are only good people and bad people. The UK is Christian in name only, I don't see many Christian values on display in the UK currently, those that do display them are quite often hypocrites in one way or another. Quite often these days, its Muslims who'll display something like what we are brought up to believe are Christian behaviours. Yes, there are the wrong uns amongst them, usually younger Muslims, probably because they have been brought up on UK values of look after number 1, feck everyone else, and don't hold the values their parents and grandparents have/had, which is no different from our own young people.

My Indian ex's mother once said to me that even though I wasn't an Indian Hindu of her caste, at least I wasn't Muslim or black.

No, it's not. France is a secular state as defined by its constitution. In this country Charles, as head of state, is required to be a member of the Church of England and take an oath to maintain it. Did you somehow miss the coronation?

Charles himself is a typical god-botherer who spends a lot of time being nice to god botherers of all faiths. It's god botherers like him and the leaders of the Church of England who have promoted similarly unelected bodies like the Muslim Council of Britain to positions of prominence in society.

A pox on the lot of 'em - and especially to religious fanatics of all persuasions.

All religions have fairy stories that they believe but I can't think of one more fanciful than the belief that mohammed went off to see god on a flying horse. The virgin birth comes close but not quite. My suspicion on that by the way is that Mary after a night out with the girls got deflowered in a back street somewhere and a month or two later they got together and came up with the most ridiculous whopper of all time. You have to ask though - Was Joseph the most gullible man in history?

NB: Mary was a pregnant 16 year old who would have been stoned to death had she not have come up with a convincing story.

The followers of Mohammed are slowly and surely taking over Europe.

For years the western world was scared of communism taking over, billions was spent.

And yet Islam, a much worse ill, is here and nothing is being done to stop its progress.

So it looks like the fairy story about a flying horse is the one most people believe in!!!

need to get the monty python team back to make a film of all that. would be a box office hit especially with a black baby jesus in for the sake of diversity.

Less than 7% of the UK population is Muslim yet the BBC feel the need to ram a live celebration of Eid on their flagship channel. Yet in the name of diversity traditionally celebrated festivals such as Easter services and Christmas services are slashed?

honestly i feel both should have there time if only taken as a percentage of the number who actually prey. lets be serious how many of us watch anything releous on the box, attend or are interested in easter or christmas events apart from being dragged to kids events yet are only happy once they are over. been to the handels massiah at huddersfield town hall but only attended because i liked the tunes.

I was taught at an early age that God forgives everyone….so in kid logic I assumed I only had to say sorry and the slate was wiped clean….l then thought well that’s all Hitler had to do was repent and he’d get a nice place in Paradise.
Doesn’t quite add up.

Precisely. It's nominal Christians who rarely see the inside of a church getting their knickers in a twist about Muslims.
I'm sure PTID won't want to miss any of this:

"Programming for Easter includes Easter Live Worship from St Mary Redcliffe Church in Bristol on BBC One and iPlayer as well as Easter Sunday Worship live from Canterbury Cathedral on BBC Radio 4, where the Right Reverend Rose Hudson Wilkin, Bishop of Dover, preaches an Easter message of hope and resurrection. New series, Gareth Malone’s Messiah follows the choirmaster as he stages his own performance of this popular choral piece in the magnificent surroundings of Cardiff’s Llandaff Cathedral.

There are three special episodes of Songs of Praise – the Rev Kate Bottley presents an episode on Women of the Easter Story, Aled Jones brings audiences a rich variety of hymns for Easter Sunday from St George’s Roman Catholic Cathedral in Southwark and there is a celebration of gospel music introduced by Mark De-Lisser; and BBC One will show Urbi et Orbi on Easter Sunday Morning, live from Rome.

This year’s Lent Talks on BBC Radio 4 explore the Nicene Creed on its 1700th anniversary whilst on BBC Radio 2, the Rev Kate Bottley will be joined by musical guests on Good Friday to reflect on hope after loss and she will present a special Easter Sunday edition of Good Morning  Sunday. On Radio 3, there will be a host of musical treats including Sir Simon Rattle leading the Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra, the Bavarian Radio Chorus and an exquisite line-up of vocal soloists in Bach’s St Matthew Passion."

I have nominated you for the job of Archbishop of Canterbury, Mr Hogans. Your vast knowledge and attention to detail should be priceless in that role. You'll sort the abusers out. Can I suggest you instruct the C of E faithful to introduce a collection amongst the faithful towards a fund for the purchase of Hartlepool United. You can probably exorcise the alleged curse on the Vic as well. Come on gerron wi eet.

So you did investigate it then.

I'm not saying I want to see only Christian and traditional festivities, I'm saying it should be proportionate and most of those events Mr H as you rightly point out are not on BBC1.

I always investigate when you pull the race card out of your top pocket.
I issued five bollockings, three warnings and made a note in my log that once again the bunker was free from your campaign to blacken it's name. I also noted your intense interest in my activities as a top class high profile moderator and the warm glow I get from being loved, especially by you. Keep vigilant, these pesky racists are everywhere you know. Did you know your new title is High Profile Pesky Racist Bounty Hunter.
Sounds a lot better than Silly Useless Twat, don't you think.
Good win on Saturday eh.

Yes I know.... F... Off and when I get there F.. Off again.

Simple question to everyone.

Mr_I is worried about the UK losing its culture to Islam.

So do you want to live in an Islamic UK? YES OR NO

I'm first

NO

The sum total of my "vast knowledge and attention to detail" was a 30 second google search.

I wish others would try it sometimes.

If they're going to talk bollocks, at least let it be informed bollocks.

They need to be informed to make it informed bollocks.

NO

Can I nominate you as board Chaplain. ….
The Right Reverend Flying Hogans in the Parish of The Bunker..
You’ll have to wear the dog collar when posting or Bishop Derwent will have your guts for garters.
Amen.

Too right

No....but it'll never happen anyway.

If I lived in tin foil hat world perhaps the question might be relevant.

It's already happening.

It sure is. Maybe one of our resident stattos could find out how many followers of Islam occupy places in government/councils/influence etc.
Maybe Mutley can expand on why he thinks it will never happen.

more interesting will be the viewing and listening figures to those broadcasts. think most of the bunker will be like me, watching or listening to something else. however they will still buy easter eggs for the kids whether it has the word easter on them or not. thing is the kids will never notice that or even care.

agree, anyway what exactly is UK culture as i guess it will vary from person to person and its not some pre war travel film about farm horses ploughing the cotswold fields as that went years ago and is history.

Accrington, I would rather bring that back. Way better than what we have got at the moment.

Mutley, like Mr_I says, it is already happening under our noses.

Muslims which are MPs:

Abtisam Mohamed - Sheffield Central
Adam Habib Jogee - Newcastle under Lyme
Naushabah Khan - Gillingham and Rainham
Nesil Caliskan - Barking
Sadik Al-Hassan - North Somerset
(Dr) Zubir Ahmed - Glasgow South West
Adnan Hussain - Blackburn
Ayoub Khan - Birmingham Perry Bar
Iqbal Mohamed - Dewsbury and Batley
Shockat Adam - Leicester South
Afzal Khan - Manchester Rusholme
Apsana Begum - Poplar and Limehouse
Imran Hussain - Bradford East
Mohammad Yasin - Bedford
Naz Shah - Bradford West
(Dr) Rosena Allin-Khan - Tooting
(Dr) Rupa Huq - Ealing Central and Acton
Rushanara Ali - Bethnal Green and Stepney
Shabana Mahmood - Birmingham Ladywood
Tahir Ali - Birmingam Hall Green and Moseley
Tulip Siddiq - Hampstead and Highgate
Yasmin Qureshi - Bolton South and Walkden
Zarah Sultana - Coventry South
Nus Ghani - Sussex Weald
Saqib Bhatti - Meriden and Solihull

There are over 500 Muslim Councillors, I am not going to name them!

Estimated to be up to 85 Sharia courts based in the UK, not legally binding but offer advice.

Over 2100 mosques in the UK and growing!

Around 30 state funded Muslim schools and around 180 private Muslim schools with approx. 2000 madrassas.


It certainly is not going to decrease!

Thanks Mr Stocksfield. I wish I could say I'm shocked at your Stats but I'm not.
The next question is how long will it be before they form their own party and put up for election under that banner.

not bad for less than 10% of the population. instead of all the rest fighting amongst ourselves it would be far better to take a leaf out of their book and all stick together. do not tell me there is a muslim majority in all those council or parliamentary areas but they have a block vote in them. most white brits and other religeons who do not agree with muslims could easily vote many out if they were not unlike them too lazy to vote.

think the dewsbuty and batley one has but they know quite well many labour brits will vote for anybody standing under that banner and at the moment they need us. not a good future when you cast a vote not on politics but the colour or religeon of someones skin. suppose this is what a so called progressive society is all about. division.

Because it won't be allowed to happen.
When do you think it will happen...what timescale??

once pre war it was the jews who were seen as a problem and not just in germany. by what i have heard there was a strong anti jewish feeling here. a warning from the past if there was ever one by people twisting the facts for there own ends. we need to be very careful and savvy to stop muslims becoming the scapegoat of all our ills.

Timescale is difficult to predict but it is happening. It started with one MP and now it's up to 25. They won't form an official Party until there are significantly more, probably at the point when it will be nigh impossible to stop it happening. Which current Party is going to pass the Law banning such a Party.

I predict that in 10 years time, those figures above will be double.

Mutley, what is going to stop it? Tell me, enlighten me?

By the way London Tower Hamlets is under the control of an Islam male only council!
They all belong to the Aspire Party!

Mayor - Lutfur Rahman

I won't list them all, but the council members can be found here:

https://democracy.towerhamlets.gov.uk/m ... aspx?bcr=1

This will become commonplace throughout the UK, especially in cities and large towns.

And the Muslim Council of Britain is encouraging Muslims to take up positions of power, get into the very fabric of local and national politics, become the backbone of Britain. Islam is transforming and will continue to transform the UK, so much so, that Britain will become unrecognisable.