Thoughts From a Woking Fan
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Limbrick surely isnt the long term solution for Hartlepool. He was one-dimensional with us and got us relegated.

Bearing in mind this was 7 years ago it seems he hasnt changed at all

When we appointed him he spent ages at a fans forum telling us players had 'KPIs' to hit. For example Jake Caprice had a target of how many crosses he sent into the box each game. Our first real experience of a 'spreadsheet manager'
Once other teams had worked us out AL had no answer and looked to be found out rather quickly.

This division isnt all about KPIs, box entries and XG, its about pace, power and a certain excellence in shithousery, the first two are non-negotiable, but if you have the other its even better.

I reckon he is spot on with his accessment.

Great old limpy was Sussed 7 years ago ffs

He's not had the best of starts but to write him off because Woking sacked him 7 years ago is ridiculous. We should never have had Challinor based on that thinking, or Cyril Knowles, or Danny Wilson and others.

Sounds like he’s applying industrial/commercial targets to football .
Utter madness.

Not saying he should be sacked, Whats being said is WHY was he not sounded out correctly, By the very(notso) clever people decision makers at the club.

We as humans have learnt to evolve by learning by our mistakes its called gaining experience, Seems Mr Limbrick has not learned therefore he is a f**l.
There is a fashion at the moment that coaches play the game THEY want to play no matter the personnel (one at the Boro now) which imo is madness and foolish.

Undoubtedly he is not going to learn so probably will be shown the door.

I liked Dave straight to the point attitude, And with regard to Cyril, Have seen the board above the stand showing his name, Tells me all i need to know about those upstairs.

Sack the board.

I seen his YouTube, videos from hqdurham. And could see then he would never make in Management.
As his lack of discipline n results show.

To refer him in the same paragraph as them great managers just shows everything you don't know about Football.

I'm referring to the fact that they were all sacked prior to coming here and only that. If you knew anything at all about reading English you'd have understood that.
We'll not know how good or bad he is until he's had a bit more time.
The guys here and we've got to give him time to see what he can do - would you rather sack him now given your superior knowledge of all things football?

It seems Singh has learnt nothing at all over the years. He swaps and changes managers far too frequently and persistently thinks he can turn up an undiscovered gem on the cheap but doesn't. In the odd time he does employ someone decent they will inevitably fall out with him for some reason and leave..

As a Darlo fan I genuinely think that Singh simply doesn't understand the fact that a good manager is worth his weight in gold and a poor manager will create bad feeling and hold the team back.

Einstein said "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." This is what Singh does in relation to employing managers, to repeat myself, he's learnt nothing since he's been involved in football.

I honestly believe the bloke is totally paranoid. He complained about D.C. & G.L. milking the crowd with fist pumps. He said something along the lines of " I invest my money in the club but ( above names ) take all the praise from the supporters.

We can't keep sacking managers.

He can't be any worse than Snarl.
Let's give the bloke a chance- at least to
let him bring some of his own players in, to shape a team and come up with a playing style for next season. I appreciate he hasn't pulled up any. trees but he can't be blamed for everything this season.

Think the new litmus test is whether or not he can get us through the last qualifying round of the FA Cup - Yes, stays until Xmas minimum or No, fucks off straight after that game like Snarl did

I'm assuming Joe Grey, ManiD and possibly
Mancini leave in the summer- see who he brings in
and how he sets the team up.

Those managers you named all had success elsewhere, Knowles with us and Torquay so knew how to get a team to perform at the level his new club was at. Your new bloke hasn’t had any success anywhere has he?

I agree getting rid of managers every 5 minutes is not good, but sometimes as in Limpys case someone is so out of their depth their is no choice
His post match comments are brutal, bloke looks like he’s on the verge of tears churning out the same canned responses. We keep not winning and it’s never anyone but lady lucks fault. He’s just not cut out to manage men’s senior football.

I expect York to be his last home game….lose that then don’t win against Fylde or Eastleigh and Raj will have to get shot.

He seems a nice bloke but giving him the close season and the start
Of next coupled with what is likely a weaker squad due to budget cuts and the results will be horrific !

He had 10 months of failure at Woking, got chased from the Welsh leagues then went on to coaching kids….coupled with never having played professionally, it’s a truly bizarre appointment

The point I'm making is that he's being criticised on what happened 7 years ago in his 1st managerial job and him being sacked. I'm not saying he'll be as good as any of those named, hopefully he will be.
Think he did a good job at TNS more recently, but our last ex TNS manager didn't last long either.

TNS win the league every year, it’s not a proper job , a bit like Phillips thinking he’s a good manager when given 5 times everyone else’s budget with South Shields

He won't get until the Summer unless he starts winning some games. You're always on borrowed time as a Pools manager if things aren't going your way.

I reckon he needs to sort his bloody head out. He's managing on a matchday as though he's playing a 90's football manager computer game. Swapping and changing and trying to fit square pegs into round holes to play to a plan that doesn't take into account that even the poorest opposition at this level can tonk us if we don't keep it tight at the back. His tactics are naive, his substitutions are cavalier to say the least and his excuses about being unlucky are wearing thin.

All he has to do is play our best players in their best positions (4 at the back please) and stop trying to reinvent the plate.

No ones got a clue what he'll do against York on Saturday (which says it all really) but if he fannies about like he did last weekend then I've had enough of him.

I take your point loyal- but who comes in to takeover, we can't be a great draw. Askey had as good a pedigree as any in recent times, but that went south too. Do we just give it to Fev instead?

Until the Rajanator decides to depart we're in limbo, and nothing changes. This was the season but that's fallen apart too- its just depressing

Of course Skippy cant shoulder the blame for Pools mostly abysmal performance this season. However he could easily be regarded as worse than Snarl if he doesn’t get his act together over the next four fixtures, none of which look to be as ‘easy’ on paper as the last four. It’s easy with hindsight but the excellent win at Sutton now appears to be an anomaly under Skippy. Whatever he did (or didn’t do) correctly that day needs to be repeated over the next four fixtures in order to stop the rot.

I certainly don’t want to see him sacked- not yet anyway - but he needs to show that he is competent, motivational and man enough for one of the toughest managerial jobs in the English professional game. There is no point in speculating what may happen in the close season in respect of comings and goings - or next season for that matter. It is the here and now that matters -and Skippy has everything to prove IMO.

Kev, I looked up ‘hqdurham’ …..it’s a village In Kazakhstan..population 3 and a goat called Malcolm.

No ones got a clue what he'll do against York on Saturday (which says it all really) but if he fannies about like he did last weekend then I've had enough of him.[/quote]

He doesn't have a clue either what he will do against York.

Can Malcolm play left wingback? Connections are important and Fergie's been looking off the pace these past few seasons.

Or right wingback / centre back / defensive midfield / attacking midfield / winger / no10 or even striker. Or maybe manager.

You are correct LS, Skippy’s background in the game is unimpressive. My theory is that he was recommended to the ever-gullible Raj who realised that us Poolies would soon suss his history and react adversely accordingly. He was therefore effectively huddled into the club as Lenny’s assistant with the intention that he swap places with Lenny at an appropriate time once Lenny had fully steadied the ship. Following the impressive win at Sutton everything was going to Raj’s plan but went off course soon afterwards once Skippy took full control of the rudder.

TWO GOATS?
We can't have Malcolm and Fev on the pitch at the same time!

We were pretty lucky against Sutton with a late own goal winner, not saying we weren’t the better side but limpy can’t claim bad luck against Tamworth and maidenhead (oh and Altrincham…oh sorry and Aldershot without acknowledging some good luck v Sutton

The players need to take a look at themselves but it’s obvious they have no respect for limpy

Pools hire a Girls U13 Manager...nothing will go wrong.
It's not on the cheap though.
Thanks Raj.

Wether he turns out to be good or bad in the long term I suspect the choice was made by Lennie, Walter Mitty Shithead, and the other new director, with Raj letting them get on with it. After all Lennie is the footballing genius at the top isn't he?

Invests money.
Then turns it into a loan when his many managers can't perform miracles.
Always follow the evidence when in doubt.

Get three goats and put Malcolm In The Middle.

And put grass seed on the pitch with his hands then do a raindance.

We tried the long term shit with your hero Askey.
3 year contract.
Budget cuts nailed on for sure.
Energy bill going up announcement tomorrow.
Then Water
Council tax
Food etc.
Will be a fair few diehards who just can't afford to keep supporting Pools.
Then ya got the inevitable St boycott.

That's why the majority realise this season was a last chance saloon which is now over in Febs.
Ah well what could of been.

feel the bloke is on a hiding to nothing ever since his appointment thats shown in our last two games. he has no option but to send teams out to just win games and has thrown points down the drain by having to do this. too many dropped points with drawn games before he got the job to show how poor a manager he is as his period in change could see him unbeaten as a manager with us in a different situation.

Certainly not showing great signs considering he has had a very easy start.

He doesn't have a clue either what he will do against York. [/quote]

Thing i find puzzling is, HE says we created enough chances to win the last three home games. And i agree.
IF he really believes that then why chop and change the starting line up (barring injuries)

I would not because if i had said that to the fans, Then surely the ? is why change it.
Sounds like a confused attitude.

Roll on York, This is a one where you don,t want Featherstone protecting the CBs.

do not mind him dropping anybody if they have had poor games that some have had. its better than persevering every week with the same old team that only injuries change it where some seem permanebt fixtures in the side.

Anutha easy game next Tuesday at Fylde.
Away Banker.!!

Bring back Brian Cough I say!

If Limbrick can't find a win in the next 3 or 4 fixtures he'll have to go. Another relegation scrap would be taking the piss. Lennie time beckons...

Limbrick is too much of a cheerleader for the team at the minute - keeps saying everyone is giving 100% when it seems obvious that Aldershot wanted the win more on Saturday. Not sure he's the type of character to galvanize players out of a mid-table mentality.

No idea what he'll do to try to stop the rot against York - Pools tried slugging it out with them down at their place and they proved they've got too much firepower for that to work. High scoring banker at any rate

So ya saying 1 win from 8 should keep him as Pools Manager.
The expectation levels are now dropping to the club's ambition levels which now stand at the worst in the club's history.
Impossible to get into a relegation battle this season.
But next season we survive by the skin of our teeth.
Will happen season after like and probably get by passed by Darlo.

The futures shit.
Honesty is Honesty basically.
Ah well.

So ya saying 1 win from 8 should keep him as Pools Manager.
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Keep him for how long is the question. Limbrick could be a dead man walking already, but even Raj will think twice about moving on to his fourth manager in 7 months! It'll be slightly less embarrassing to get shot of him in the summer. But he does need a few wins to last even that long.

start looking now for a possible replacement. if he has not gone by the second week in march then allow him the summer and part of next season. pointless letting him see the season out, sort out the retained list and bring in a new manager blind somewhere in june.

hes a cheerleader because he has no authority--if he dared criticize them he'd be hung up by his y Fronts in the Maiden Castle changing room.

He'll def be gone---Raj needs to be seen to be going through the motions for the new season to try and get some season ticket money--not many likely to sign up If Limpy still in charge after only 2 or 3 more wins this season...

... Sorry 'Energetic, Ambitious and Charismatic Limpy' as he's described in the Mail

Only winner out of this recent mess.
Is Leonard or whatever they call him.
Should be the first employee kicked out of the club.
Played Raj n the fans for absolute mugs with his cockney bullshit.
And shit on KP.

A total selfish snidester

He's no fool--bigged up the 3 home games, and then let Limpy take the fall when we inevitably fell short--he's recommended Phillips, Sarll and Limpy now all 3 of whom were shite for different reasons.....never Len's fault though !

He’s do better even in his current state.

'That's right, Young Man!'

'Well we'll talk about it for twenty minutes, before reaching the conclusion, that I was right!'

'I wouldn't say I was the best, but I'm in the top 1!'

they are just names who have been proved to worse than any of those employed by raj since he first took the club over. even challinor left just at the right time as i,m sure now pools would not have done that much better that season if he had stayed. how many of us who moaned about a 17th finish in league 2 would swap for that now but moaned that the players were on the beach after they achieved what the club wanted at the start of the season.