On your clubs great start to the season after 1/3 of all matches played

17th
Nearer Relegation than the playoffs
Only scored more goals than Wealdstone and Ebbsfleet
Out of the FA CUP
Manager you picked sacked
77 year old bloke in charge part time
Club going nowhere
Crowds down 1k from the start of the season

How do you do it? each year a greater success than the last--your business and football knowledge is only surpassed by your people skills and commitment to fan engagement--thank you so much for not selling the club to those chancers from the trust who wanted to invest and move us forward--you have been proved right yet again !

All true. Waiting for PTID to come along with the deflector Shields.

He owns a football for the prestige of owning a football club. Every penny he puts in he wants back when goes (fucks off)!!! The darlo fans warned us of this when Raj 'saved' Pools. And that is why I've never set foot in the Victoria Ground from the day he took charge. He hasn't and will not get 1 penny from me.
Gone are the days when Chairman/Directors invested into a Club they love and support.
Raj Singh is only at Hartlepool United for HImFUCKINGSelf...and he will destroy OUR Club when he does finally go!!!

Yes I think we can all agree now that the season is over, we are down in the midst of the NLN sides, we are with the Braintree, Wealdstone, Ebbsfleet, Boston levels. It is unbelievable given the level of footballers recruited, but we are were we are due to incompetence of the chairman and the people making the decisions. My brother in law in Liverpool texted me the other day and couldn't believe that LL was in charge of the team, he said he's older than my ma!!! We are a laughing stock across the game and it won't end until a decision is made to put someone in charge who knows what they are doing. LL, Ronnie and all these other clowns have to leave the stage. I'm now so disillusioned, a total embarrassment!!!

I live in Belfast so I get to games when I can, watch the rest on stream. I took my Dad to the Brackley game and we were sitting right behind Snarll. Every time Dodd's was on the ball we were screaming who wants it to feet, who is showing for the ball? The coaching over the last 6 months must have been non existent. Who has allowed this to happen? It has to be Mr Burns agreed by the chairman. Me and my Dad were shocked by the lack of anything and we both said they'll beat us down there, how sad is that? The decision making in the club I love is shocking. I will never give up on my club but I am now thinking this season is over and the only hope is that Lenny is not given any more kudos to make anymore decisions, the worrying thing is who else is there?

I spoke to a few Brackley fans at half time and they thought we had put our second string out, I had to say no this is as good as we are, I explained all the players we had recruited along with mani, grey, mancini, campbell and the levels they should be at, they were shocked at how poor we were. Its unbelievable how bad they were and the Brackley fans were astonished that we couldn't string two passes together.

MyDad is 83, if were taking instruction from Lenny might as well call it a day, the pie we had was good though!!!!

FFS get a grip, it’s going to take time to sort the wreck that Sarll left and many of the players are nowhere near as competent, fit or as committed as we were led to believe. Pools have NO divine right to charge up the League simply because the car crash dummy of a manager has departed. Alty finished above Pools last season, in 4th place I believe, therefore we should realistically have no right to piss all over them. Last night Oldham - who currently sit in the play-off places - had to settle for a 1-1 draw at Maidenhead, precisely the same result that Pools secured last Saturday. Oldham are currently only 9 points above Pools with 31 games remaining therefore there is ample time to launch a play off push.

I certainly ain’t no Raj Singh lover but you are bashing your noggins against a brick wall as he’s not going anywhere no matter how much flak he receives from a few angry man fans. Lets get the new manager in place along with - hopefully a coach with fresh ideas plus the recruitment of two or three decent signings. If Pools fail to even achieve a playoff place maybe THAT will be the time to kick off with a vengeance.

I admire your optimism but who is going to be making the decisions on the new manager? If its Lennie etc how do we know its going to be sensible given the recent debacle. You say get a grip and let the Sarrl episode take its course....we are down with the NLN teams. What I am seeing is a total mis management of a once proud club. Where does your optimism come from?

Here we go. It's all the managers fault. Pretty sure this crap pre-dates Sarll and even HIS predecessors by a long way. When is the penny going to drop? 20 managers in? 30??

We don't need any divine right, we need simple good old fashioned competence.

I believe we are only 6 points adrift of 7th playoff spot so no panic yet lads. We have ample time to make the playoffs and I do believe this team will still achieve that goal this season. We need to employ a quality manager and quickly to give this team some proper guidance. Mr.Burns to be fair has done a decent job so far in only 1 week. However we really do need to act fast and decisively and bring in a new manager sharpish... time waits for no man.

I had a look at Sarrls record of coaching, most of it was jobs for the boys, people he knew in the game, always on the youth side of things that his mates had given him a job. He got sacked for bullying and his record at senior level was absolutely rubbish. So whoever gave him kudos, lenny or whoever should be nowhere near selecting the next manager. I'm not trying to be smug after the fact but look at his record previously, it was always bullshit. That's why Lennie Lawrence and the decision makers should be gone as well!!!

We are being run by bullshitters and for me its not right

I agree thebizarredj. The recruitment by Raj and now his worshipers on the board is nothing short of embarrassing. Surely he should now try a recruitment agency who understand C.Vs and know a manager from a mug.

its obvious at the time of sarlls sacking we had no plan b to replace him. i,d prefer more time to be taken than rushing in and appointing the best talker who cons the bored again. at least we are only becalmed now and not sinking in rough waters.

Raj sell the club and take with you your troop of has beens in LL, Ronnie Moore and your own personnel of Has nots with you that is Lee Rust ( of the brain) Rose stoker and John Walter Mitty Shithead none of the above offer the club anything except a drain on club by stealing a wage. Raj the buck stops at your inability to run the club.

which knight in shining armour is going to save us?

None. Raj tells them to do one.

I agree with a lot of what you say there, Lennie has stated that Sarll worked hard and was a good coach, not sure what type (if any) coaching it was but watching us I saw no direction, plan, routines or plan B, C or D in any of the games I attended or watched on line, in fact I've stopped going as I'm not prepared to have my intelligence insulted with some of the tat served up, I will return if I can see that this currently rudderless ship starts to show some direction, and the countless number of corners and free kicks which bear absolutely no fruit at all begin to look as though someone on the coaching side has actually taken the time to practice something productive.

And look at York City, over 6000 I think for their midweek home game against Barnet.
And over 5000 when they played the bottom club at the weekend.

Lennie is hardly gonna slag him off now is he…?
No point in getting into an argument over something you’ve got rid of…..sounds like the usual ‘satisfactory’ departure…they ask for a satisfactory reference and you say you’re satisfied they’re leaving in reality.

Winning team’s crowd increases…hardly surprising.
Winning team’s crowd dwindle’s… that’s a surprise.

The club Dosent have time.
In the real world its still a last chance saloon season which is now over regarding promotion.
The assembled squad just isent good enough to string a few passes together never mind a few wins.

Don't kick off to much if we finish 8th to 20th
We shudent go down.

Agree with this completely. Last night was the first time there has been a plan for how we are going to attack. Getting the ball out to Asiimwe on the right, getting Dodds quickly on the overlap to double up on their fullback, get to the line and get a cross over towards Mani, and have Campbell looking for knock-downs and Sheron buzzing around the edge of the 18-yard box to pick up loose balls.

Sarll’s attacking philosophy just appeared to be to throw on as many creative players as possible and tell them to go and create stuff. No plan, no organisation, no structure.

Agreed with the above. Also like how we now have 3/4 different corner routines. I do wonder what they were doing in training if Lennie can get a variety of different game plans, a pressing set up and set pieces drilled into a team in something like 4 days.

100%
The club is suffering a slow death with Raj in charge although we seem to be accelerating into the abyss this season.
We could easily be getting crowds of 5000 if Raj and his board weren’t so totally inept.

But Raj tried that wait slow down take your time appointment style and guess who we got.... Hartley arguably the worst manager Raj has employed to date.

He didn't slow down and take his time. We got turned down by all of our top choices and he panicked again.

Maybe true maybe not Unless you have proof that happened the way you say it did I will treat that with a pinch of salt.

What I was trying to say we should really be where York are, considering what was 'invested' in the club with player recruitment.

It is true but as you well know there is no definitive proof. You can however read between the lines of his interview after Hartley was sacked. 'Hartlepool chairman Raj Singh admits Paul Hartley was not the club's first choice as manager' and 'Paul's appointment came about when Adrian (Bevington, director) made a call to an agent in Scotland to enquire about another manager who had been very successful up there'.

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It is true but as you well know there is no definitive proof. You can however read between the lines of his interview after Hartley was sacked. 'Hartlepool chairman Raj Singh admits Paul Hartley was not the club's first choice as manager' and 'Paul's appointment came about when Adrian (Bevington, director) made a call to an agent in Scotland to enquire about another manager who had been very successful up there'.[/quote]

Fair enough Krampesh

The way Raj has treated managers makes it almost impossible to recruit a proven performer. Poor ones are shown the door in months whilst Kevin Phillips did everything asked of him; saved us from relegation and got us into mid table.
So it appears that Raj is trigger happy whatever transpires! Would you like to work for him?

Six or nine points does not seem a lot when viewed as two or three wins but the Oldhams and Solihulls can also win games! In order to gain a playoff spot we have to OUTPERFORM the other contenders who have a 6 or 9 point lead and that is not easy. Failure to beat Aldershot will mean the gap getting wider and our chance of a decent season going down the pan.

It's an almost impossible job working for him.

1 man from 17 has managed to conquer this.
And that took a biased referee at Ashton Gate.

A shortened version of why will always be non league under this Regime despite the year on year inferior opposition in this league.

Hey.

The trust in partnership with a consortium after Raj failed to get any direct offers brought what I understand was agood offer to the table which he rejected then denied have any offers and has failed badly to make any good decisions on managers apart from DC. How hev has done so well in business is a mystery to me. Remember all the money he has put in has been a loan despite the cup run and the two years of parachute payment and according to accounts the club purchasing a plane!

Cracking post.

I'd say Sarl was much worse than Hartley. Hartley was just out of his depth and thought lower Scottish Leagues was on par with Pools...which he was completely wrong about....hence the shite he brought from Scotland. But at least he looked like he tried to win games.
Sarl was just a charlatan and didn't have a clue about tactics, formation, injuries, fitness, how to change things, etc etc etc. He was like a lower Sunday League Manager doing it just for the craic and to get out of the house. He was clueless and shite....FACT!!!
I would love to have been a fly on the wall in his interview....then again I reckon I would have only lasted about 2 minutes before realising he was a chancer and telling him to fuck off....unlike 'the board'....I mean Raj's yes men who were took in by this Rarf!!!
Only at Pools under Raj do you have blokes off the street appointing a Manager!!!!

I disagree, Hartley brought in a bunch of Pub League players on long contracts and trained them like a Pub league so that they were miles off the pace required for English professional football.

Sarll brought in mostly decent players for this level, and got them very fit. But seemed to be under the impression that we were playing Barcelona or Real Madrid every week, so packed the defence and midfield to prevent getting hammered. In reality we were playing Ebbsfleet and Brackley.

When Hartley got the boot (after not winning a single league match) he left us with no budget left to bring in competent players, and a squad full of overpaid crap, who wouldn’t leave because the only clubs that were interested were tiny tinpot teams who couldn’t afford to pay anywhere near the wages we were paying them. And the squad were so unfit, they really needed a full pre-season to bring them up to speed, but we couldn’t do that because they were playing 1-2 competitive games per week by that point. It took us 2 more seasons to undo some of the damage he left us with.

Sarll has left us with a squad that is more than adequate for this division, who are also very fit. He had no idea what to do with them, but the new manager will have plenty to work with, he might need a couple of additions, but it’s definitely not the major surgery needed once Hartley was binned.

Both were disasters, but I think it will be much easier for someone competent to come in and recover from Sarll’s mistakes.

After almost 60 years of hurt following the once (but not too often) ‘proud Pools’ Im afraid that have very little optimism remaining. All I do have is hope that the current miserable position can quickly be turned around, coupled with the hard reality that no matter how much we would like to see Singh sell up and allow a sugar daddy to lead the club back into the EFL with all guns blazing, it’s not going to happen, not in the short/medium term at least. I agree that there appears to be a significant degree of mismanagement within the club and who indeed knows who will be making decisions, sensible or otherwise in respect of the next manager. However I very much doubt if he/they will be in any way influenced by the likes of us.

His Merry men of wage burglars n nobodys thinking there important.

Must be a case of nobody in football wants to employ us any more.
But don't despair HUFC are gullable to bullshit.
Lifeline
Jackpot.
DTP.

But who's he going to sell to if nobody will meet his asking price?

Double post

I tried to buy a Tesla car yesterday but the salesman wouldn't accept what I thought was a fair offer, said I had to pay what they wanted. Bastard, sack Musk I said it's a f*cking disgrace the way he runs his company blah, blah, blah.....
Then I realised I was wasting my breath. You'll get there eventually.

The club will just go bust in that scenario and quite possibly this season.

Singh, he loves buying things cheap, but selling is another matter.

if we,d have been winning home games playing sarll ball the crowd would not have dwindled but doubt it would have increased either. got naff all from those 3 away 1 nil victories apart from the club getting 3 points out of each game.

really doubt thats going to happen but he,ll go when he wants to and sell to who he wants to sell to and unless fans did what oldham fans did a few years back thats where we are. not the ideal owner by a long way who seems to make more mistakes than most, but we are not down to the oldham level of ownership at that time by a long way.

Yeah, I got there ages ago. He is here until he decides to go. Nowt I can do about it.
You've hit the nail right on the head Mr PTID.

id like Raj' new board of directors to come out and engage the fans a little more - LL i get is part of that and now down in the dugout letting us know bits but its ridiculous just now the lack of anything from the club.

the Trust where bang on it their statement tbh

since when do you hear or see the suits unless they want something off us or its all about them. always wonder how defeats hurt them on matchdays if they bother to attend and is the free trough the big part of the day for em all.

Depends. If he was asking what it was worth then that's reasonable. If he was asking for more than that, say it had fuck all features and outstanding finance, then he's an arsehole and needs calling out.

It might help if Raj and the board were a bit more accessible and made themselves more available to the fans.
There’ll always be those who you can’t have a conversation with, but a bit more of a coming together would do no harm…..things just seem so disjointed recently and as Churchill said..,”Jaw Jaw is better the War War.”
A football club cannot survive where there is a barrier between owners and fans.
Time to talk, time to enlighten, time to inform.