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 Post subject: Which manager will be sacked first
PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 3:58 pm 
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To most this would seem silly but I reckon it will be the Barnet manager. He goosed the playoffs when he was favourite to win them. Now he has assembled possibly the strongest squad on paper in this league and is expected to run away with the league. The expectations are huge ( on him and the players ) but if they have a wobbly August he could well be on his way out. I know from last season cooky at Cheaterfield ( expectations the same ) had a poor start and fans openly said he is clueless and doesn't know his best 11. I remember reading the forum just before we played them and the overall opinion was if we lose to Pools he should go. But by hook or by fluke despite being 0-2 down the game swung in their favour the rest is history. If Pools had won I am sure the pressure on him would have told one way or the other. Biggest difference for me was Cooky had the gift of the gab but this fellow is a little more shallow in my opinion. First two games away to much weaker teams and 4 to 6 points expected. These easy games are not easy as we all know. Then at home to FG then Southend so less than 4 points away will put proper pressure on them. I will predict 6 points from the four games and pressure building. :wink:


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They ( Barnet) have just signed Harry Chapman


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poolie wrote:
They ( Barnet) have just signed Harry Chapman


Seems some of our fans were keen on him. He'll be on a good salary but often injured and not achieved his potential yet at age 26.

Hes a player that brings pressure on the manager, maybe it works out for player and club and they walk the league.

Barnet have been losing a million a season, this looks like even bigger losses this year.

Lets wait and see how it pans out.


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Bosh85 wrote:
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They ( Barnet) have just signed Harry Chapman


Seems some of our fans were keen on him. He'll be on a good salary but often injured and not achieved his potential yet at age 26.

Hes a player that brings pressure on the manager, maybe it works out for player and club and they walk the league.

Barnet have been losing a million a season, this looks like even bigger losses this year.

Lets wait and see how it pans out.

Wonder who’s bankrolling them.

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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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Or more likely the York/Oldham manager if they start slow


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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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Snowy wrote:
Bosh85 wrote:
poolie wrote:
They ( Barnet) have just signed Harry Chapman


Seems some of our fans were keen on him. He'll be on a good salary but often injured and not achieved his potential yet at age 26.

Hes a player that brings pressure on the manager, maybe it works out for player and club and they walk the league.

Barnet have been losing a million a season, this looks like even bigger losses this year.

Lets wait and see how it pans out.

Wonder who’s bankrolling them.


This guy, appears to be mega rich and very well connected in football.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Kleanthous


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Sarll...
Stop it Loyal :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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Or more likely the York/Oldham manager if they start slow


Good shout and the Halifax manager :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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depends on how teams will start. any poor start from a pre season favourite will see any getting their cards. i,d guess oldham if that happens to them.


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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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Depends how the new owners of Rochdale think about their start.


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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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Depends how the new owners of Rochdale think about their start.

thats true and now its the owners who step in to sack managers quicker than fans want rid.


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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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Salford City,Karl Robinson.


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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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Leggie43 wrote:
To most this would seem silly but I reckon it will be the Barnet manager. He goosed the playoffs when he was favourite to win them. Now he has assembled possibly the strongest squad on paper in this league and is expected to run away with the league. The expectations are huge ( on him and the players ) but if they have a wobbly August he could well be on his way out. I know from last season cooky at Cheaterfield ( expectations the same ) had a poor start and fans openly said he is clueless and doesn't know his best 11. I remember reading the forum just before we played them and the overall opinion was if we lose to Pools he should go. But by hook or by fluke despite being 0-2 down the game swung in their favour the rest is history. If Pools had won I am sure the pressure on him would have told one way or the other. Biggest difference for me was Cooky had the gift of the gab but this fellow is a little more shallow in my opinion. First two games away to much weaker teams and 4 to 6 points expected. These easy games are not easy as we all know. Then at home to FG then Southend so less than 4 points away will put proper pressure on them. I will predict 6 points from the four games and pressure building. :wink:


My prediction is off to a great start. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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Halifax are poor, you know your stuff Leggie!


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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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Bosh85 wrote:
Halifax are poor, you know your stuff Leggie!

poor enough to beat the mighty barnet though and their cast of 100,s.


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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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Well just visited the Barnet forum and the natives are not happy one bit. They are calling the players including Kamamba :roll: calling the manager and his tactics. Its only one game but the pot is boiling already just what I thought would happen. They have Ebbsfleet away on Saturday and would normally win that one but with the pressure on the manager and players it could well implode again. If the players read that message board ( and we know some do) with so many negative comments it could send them crawling under a rock to hide. Apparently one massive gripe is they have 9 centre half's and no fans can agree on the correct ones to play. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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Leggie43 wrote:
Well just visited the Barnet forum and the natives are not happy one bit. They are calling the players including Kamamba :roll: calling the manager and his tactics. Its only one game but the pot is boiling already just what I thought would happen. They have Ebbsfleet away on Saturday and would normally win that one but with the pressure on the manager and players it could well implode again. If the players read that message board ( and we know some do) with so many negative comments it could send them crawling under a rock to hide. Apparently one massive gripe is they have 9 centre half's and no fans can agree on the correct ones to play. :roll:

its hard to know which is worse. too many or too few players. at the moment just two extra contenders would satisfy me at the only club i,m bothered about pools.


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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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Yeh there is a happy medium
But we shouldn’t kid ourselves as not being short
I am hoping a strong august convinces Raj to invest to help the team
And manager out as oppose to giving him an excuse we are all covered ok


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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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a manni d clone would be ideal plus wallace to come back as a player we expected rather than saw would help a long way.


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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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New center and wide fwds an absolute must….pretty soon will be in the 2 games a week slog


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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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Wayne Rooney, his team got beat 4-0 at the W.E.


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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Wayne Rooney, his team got beat 4-0 at the W.E.

yes that sw re named team. wayne rooney,s plymouth. why do commentators have to mention a well known manager before the teams names nowadays.


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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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Halifax went into the season opener very weak aswell. They really had a bad pre season and many fans where massively worried. Dont think they replaced Hunter and didnt they loose a forward too ? But just shows yet again this league is absolutely mental - go into the opener expecting to win and get turned over by probably a team who i still think personally will not do as great as they did last season.
Like us - we will have spells where we are unbeaten yet get turned over by a Boston on a cold Januarys tuesday evening.

I think an Ebbsfleet or possibly one of the new teams will hit the shit first and panic sack their manager.


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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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its the managers of the two relegated sides whose jobs are most in danger if they have a poor start. fans and owners will have a higher expectations of their sides than the promoted ones who can live off that for awhile.


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its the managers of the two relegated sides whose jobs are most in danger if they have a poor start. fans and owners will have a higher expectations of their sides than the promoted ones who can live off that for awhile.


You could also managers of teams who get them promoted, how many managers more so ones who get promoted to Premier League get sacked, I think the majority of them.


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 Post subject: Re: Which manager will be sacked first
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well proud preston have won this by sacking their manager after only one match. that shows we give hartley too long.


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Ryan Lowe was one of those players I alwylays hated playing against pools


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well proud preston have won this by sacking their manager after only one match. that shows we give hartley too long.


Be interesting to see which manager gets sacked 1st in our league :wink:


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well proud preston have won this by sacking their manager after only one match. that shows we give hartley too long.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


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well proud preston have won this by sacking their manager after only one match. that shows we give hartley too long.



I don't think he got sacked. It seems both parties agreed the club needed a change of direction Strange thing and possibly the reason is he only signed 1 player in the summer and brought in 2 loans. :roll: However the supporters are over the moon and couldn't stand the bloke. :laugh:


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According to Talk Sport Lowe leaving PNE was by mutual consent. PNE have lost the last 6 games without scoring a goal & only scored 1 in the last 9 games. This goes back to their poor form at the end of last season being carried on into their first game of this season.


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According to Talk Sport Lowe leaving PNE was by mutual consent. PNE have lost the last 6 games without scoring a goal & only scored 1 in the last 9 games. This goes back to their poor form at the end of last season being carried on into their first game of this season.


Yes 1966 that's how I read it. Also it has to be taken into account the manager is a scouser and Preston along with Burnley & Blackburn & The Mancs hate them with a passion. :roll: Thank goodness we never hated Sir Cyril Knowles after he managed Darlo or we may never have got the second promotion in our history. I have never understood why players or managers from other clubs are hated simply because they played or managed another club, talk about working against your own club its insane. :roll: We got Cryril and Mick Tait / Marco Gabbidini to name just 3 who made a real impact at Pools and all because fan favourites. :wink:


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And Brian Honour, true Poolie legend.


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Leggie43 wrote:
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well proud preston have won this by sacking their manager after only one match. that shows we give hartley too long.



I don't think he got sacked. It seems both parties agreed the club needed a change of direction Strange thing and possibly the reason is he only signed 1 player in the summer and brought in 2 loans. :roll: However the supporters are over the moon and couldn't stand the bloke. :laugh:

i,d even have loved hartley if we were a mid table championship club. what do fans actually expect at preston where they are a bang average club playing against teams who have been given a fortune by being relegated from the premier league. only thing they,ll get is having their derby game against blackpool back in div.1 if they are not careful.


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My prediction is getting better all the time. :wink: No easy games in this league mush. :laugh:


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Leggie43 wrote:
Well just visited the Barnet forum and the natives are not happy one bit. They are calling the players including Kamamba :roll: calling the manager and his tactics. Its only one game but the pot is boiling already just what I thought would happen. They have Ebbsfleet away on Saturday and would normally win that one but with the pressure on the manager and players it could well implode again. If the players read that message board ( and we know some do) with so many negative comments it could send them crawling under a rock to hide. Apparently one massive gripe is they have 9 centre half's and no fans can agree on the correct ones to play. :roll:

Sounds familiar :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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According to Talk Sport Lowe leaving PNE was by mutual consent. PNE have lost the last 6 games without scoring a goal & only scored 1 in the last 9 games. This goes back to their poor form at the end of last season being carried on into their first game of this season.


Yes 1966 that's how I read it. Also it has to be taken into account the manager is a scouser and Preston along with Burnley & Blackburn & The Mancs hate them with a passion. :roll: Thank goodness we never hated Sir Cyril Knowles after he managed Darlo or we may never have got the second promotion in our history. I have never understood why players or managers from other clubs are hated simply because they played or managed another club, talk about working against your own club its insane. :roll: We got Cryril and Mick Tait / Marco Gabbidini to name just 3 who made a real impact at Pools and all because fan favourites. :wink:

I always remember when we we signed Gabiadini I was driving down to Northampton setting off at tea time and put a local football phone in ( can’t remember which one ) and a Pools ‘fan’ phoned in to object to the signing …when pushed to answer if he ‘d cheer if he scored a goal he replied he’d just stand there and do nothing….luckily I lost reception near Mount Grace Priory,….. :roll:

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think fans think if a player plays for a side they hate that they are lifelong fans of that club. its just a job for most of them and the good ones do their best for them in the period they are there. very few nowadays get the chance to play for their boyhood favourites. even in the old days just because they were locals didn,t mean they were fans of the local club.


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If we throw away points like we have just done I think Raj may act.

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If we throw away points like we have just done I think Raj may act.


I just hope Raj pauses before he makes a huge decision like that. We are still to see a full uninjured not suspended squad. And it's still early doors and time and patience is needed, not a knee jerk reaction from a man who constantly gets it wrong. Things do need to improve and until the sending off we played our best football of the season and almost certainly would have got a bag full. Patience is the key :wink:


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Leggie43 wrote:
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If we throw away points like we have just done I think Raj may act.


I just hope Raj pauses before he makes a huge decision like that. We are still to see a full uninjured not suspended squad. And it's still early doors and time and patience is needed, not a knee jerk reaction from a man who constantly gets it wrong. Things do need to improve and until the sending off we played our best football of the season and almost certainly would have got a bag full. Patience is the key :wink:


Yes agree but he is a bit trigger happy.

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I dont see Sarll on the block yet, and no point if he is--have to give him the time and space to try it his way as long as its not disastrous.

1st manager to get chop in Conference is a difficult one, maybe Ebbsfleet if they strggling or York/Barnet if they lose a few


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I dont see Sarll on the block yet, and no point if he is--have to give him the time and space to try it his way as long as its not disastrous.

1st manager to get chop in Conference is a difficult one, maybe Ebbsfleet if they strggling or York/Barnet if they lose a few



That's right because imagine getting a managers job in say I.C.I and the boss wants you to inprove mentality and increase productivity. You first have to sort the staff out the bad eggs and either transfer them to another department or make them redundant. Then you need to employ experienced workers and retrain the rest. It would 100% take you a minimum of one month and probably upto 3 months to gets things moving forward and to organise your staff and to pick your horses for courses etc. Then imagine after you changed 90% of your staff and production is moving forward although not to its full potential yet the the boss sacks you. sctatchinghead I feel its almost impossible now to be a successful manager especially in the lower leagues. The pressure on managers to simply wave a magic wand and expect the man to produce a successful team literally overnight is nothing short of insane. It took Sir Alex Ferguson 3 years to do anything but that was down to cool heads in the boardroom and the rest is history. So to expect a new manager & assistant / new players / new system to be sorted in a month or two is totally unfair pressure on any manager & the players & staff not forgetting these people have families and bills to pay. The team desperately needed upgrading and I believe that's happened and is still happening. We must give someone at least a run at the job before we pull of the guillotine, so let's give our manager a proper chance. If he fails so be it then he will be gone , but it would be suicidal to keep hiring and firing without giving someone a proper go. The future is bleak if this very silly way off operating continues. Always remember that old saying " be careful what you wish for ". :wink:


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Bluestreak wrote:
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If we throw away points like we have just done I think Raj may act.


I just hope Raj pauses before he makes a huge decision like that. We are still to see a full uninjured not suspended squad. And it's still early doors and time and patience is needed, not a knee jerk reaction from a man who constantly gets it wrong. Things do need to improve and until the sending off we played our best football of the season and almost certainly would have got a bag full. Patience is the key :wink:


Yes agree but he is a bit trigger happy.


That's always a danger at Pools but the Darlow lads told us this from day one. Hopefully he has mellowed enough to give every manager a proper run at the job now. Time to send the guillotine back to the tower of London. :wink:


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Judging by the lack of season ticket sales and crowds below 4000 many fans have already made their mind up about Sarl.


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I dont see Sarll on the block yet, and no point if he is--have to give him the time and space to try it his way as long as its not disastrous.

1st manager to get chop in Conference is a difficult one, maybe Ebbsfleet if they strggling or York/Barnet if they lose a few

unless he copies hartley its a subject that should not be discussed until the end of march at the earliest. like all pools managers i want them to succeed and sarll more than most unless he is conning us all with his talk.


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Judging by the lack of season ticket sales and crowds below 4000 many fans have already made their mind up about Sarl.

thats nothing whatever to do with him and at the worst do not like the style of football he is forcing on them. after the last two seasons you would not expect an increase in season ticket sales or fans rushing back to the vic. its easier to lose fans than gaining them and some clubs would be more unlucky than pools if they had a couple of seasons of real shit thrown at the fans and how they,d react.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Judging by the lack of season ticket sales and crowds below 4000 many fans have already made their mind up about Sarl.


Raj or Sarll sctatchinghead which one put up the season tickets again ! Which one increased the home game entrance fee ! Which one has made error after error after error.! Which one is literally disliked by most supporters!
Anyone who believes this is all on the manager needs to get a reality check :roll:


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