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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 7:47 pm 
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Geoff Thompson who has bankrolled South Shields as they climbed up the leagues has put the club up for sale. Wonder if they can find another sugar daddy.


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Them and Gateshead torpedoed in the same week.

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 Post subject: Re: South Shields
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In fairness to Thompson at South Shields he is suffering with Cancer and has stated he will financially support the Club until it is sold.


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Reckon they'll sink like a stone, now.
He clearly wants to protect his kids inheritance - would also suggest that prognosis is bleak.

Would hope someone could take it on, but wouldn't hold my breath

Other than the carTOON army being clensed by the Camel Jockeys - sad to say that North East football on the whole is not in great shape and reflects the financial neglect of the region by the current government rakxe


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 Post subject: Re: South Shields
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Kettering Poolie wrote:
Reckon they'll sink like a stone, now.
He clearly wants to protect his kids inheritance - would also suggest that prognosis is bleak.

Would hope someone could take it on, but wouldn't hold my breath

Other than the carTOON army being clensed by the Camel Jockeys - sad to say that North East football on the whole is not in great shape and reflects the financial neglect of the region by the current government rakxe

What has the political/financial state of the region got to do with football clubs, if they’re successful people come, if they’re crap people don’t come.
If you’re going to use that analogy we got promoted twice in the past thirty years under a Tory government! …. I think it’s best not confusing your politics with your football, always a bad choice.

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[quote="Critical Thinking"]In fairness to Thompson at South Shields he is suffering with Cancer and has stated he will financially support the Club until it is sold.[/quot

From playing northern league football at Peterlee to not far of the same division as the well run HUFC.
He should be given the freedom of South Shields.
Outstanding achievement and clearly laid the foundations for them to crack on up the pyramid.

Good luck to him with his health issues.


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 Post subject: Re: South Shields
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Snowy wrote:
Kettering Poolie wrote:
Reckon they'll sink like a stone, now.
He clearly wants to protect his kids inheritance - would also suggest that prognosis is bleak.

Would hope someone could take it on, but wouldn't hold my breath

Other than the carTOON army being clensed by the Camel Jockeys - sad to say that North East football on the whole is not in great shape and reflects the financial neglect of the region by the current government rakxe

What has the political/financial state of the region got to do with football clubs, if they’re successful people come, if they’re crap people don’t come.
If you’re going to use that analogy we got promoted twice in the past thirty years under a Tory government! …. I think it’s best not confusing your politics with your football, always a bad choice.


What seasons n who were the tory PMs.
Have a guess at John Major in 91.


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 Post subject: Re: South Shields
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:03 am 
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So who do we reckon will be taken over first pools or south shields?


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Wouldn't even hazard a guess Mr B. Who do you think?

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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
So who do we reckon will be taken over first pools or south shields?

or which foreign vegan, publicity seeking, human rights ignorer do they want. seriously how many clubs have ever had two owners on the trot throwing silly money at clubs. in this case we might actually get one first.


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 Post subject: Re: South Shields
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Kettering Poolie wrote:
Reckon they'll sink like a stone, now.
He clearly wants to protect his kids inheritance - would also suggest that prognosis is bleak.

Would hope someone could take it on, but wouldn't hold my breath

Other than the carTOON army being clensed by the Camel Jockeys - sad to say that North East football on the whole is not in great shape and reflects the financial neglect of the region by the current government rakxe

What has the political/financial state of the region got to do with football clubs, if they’re successful people come, if they’re crap people don’t come.
If you’re going to use that analogy we got promoted twice in the past thirty years under a Tory government! …. I think it’s best not confusing your politics with your football, always a bad choice.


What seasons n who were the tory PMs.
Have a guess at John Major in 91.

It’ll have been Boris….

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 Post subject: Re: South Shields
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Still goin good.
Beat the top team Saturday n currently 2nd top.
Wise decision from G Liddle. turning down the once mighty HUFC.


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 Post subject: Re: South Shields
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HUFC have never been mighty, Or even close.
Makes me laugh when players/managers say pools are a big club, Even more so when fans believe it.
We are minnows in the football world.


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 Post subject: Re: South Shields
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Well didn't see that coming, a thread about South Shields turns into a pop at the club you claim to support. Just shows how even when we haven't played for over a week that some just need to slag us off.


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Well didn't see that coming, a thread about South Shields turns into a pop at the club you claim to support. Just shows how even when we haven't played for over a week that some just need to slag us off.


Not having a pop at the club or supporters, Being realistic.
And we are minnows in the football world who nobody gives a toss about, Apart from ourselves.

In the cold light of day, Thats where we are.
It would be delusional to believe otherwise, Sorry if this upsets you but my imo.


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 Post subject: Re: South Shields
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Still goin good.
Beat the top team Saturday n currently 2nd top.
Wise decision from G Liddle. turning down the once mighty HUFC.


He turned us down because Shields offered more money. What journeyman footballer wouldn't do that at his point in his career?

Class is permanent, but he he was exposed for lack of pace at times back in League 2. Towards the end of that season he missed more games than he started. Would have had more to offer than Peter Hartley though :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: South Shields
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PTID wrote:
Well didn't see that coming, a thread about South Shields turns into a pop at the club you claim to support. Just shows how even when we haven't played for over a week that some just need to slag us off.


Ya allowed to continue threads ya know.
Get some happy pills.


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Wasn't aimed at you Mr G, the only time people refer to the once mighty Pools is to slag them off, as you say there's nothing at all once mighty about us never having been above tier 3.
It's getting a bit monotonous when almost every thread is turned into a dig at either the club in general or the Chairman. You'd think it was actually other teams fans infiltrating the board at times.


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 Post subject: Re: South Shields
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Grayhoundend wrote:
HUFC have never been mighty, Or even close.
Makes me laugh when players/managers say pools are a big club, Even more so when fans believe it.
We are minnows in the football world.


In a small pond we a blue whale.
Watch us smash the Northern Premier east division next season
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 Post subject: Re: South Shields
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Yawn.............


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 Post subject: Re: South Shields
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Grayhoundend wrote:
HUFC have never been mighty, Or even close.
Makes me laugh when players/managers say pools are a big club, Even more so when fans believe it.
We are minnows in the football world.


When you can still pull in 4000 to 5000 after 100 years of struggle then managers and players probobly see massive potential.


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 Post subject: Re: South Shields
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Yawn.............


Coffee or Coke that mite wake ya up.


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 Post subject: Re: South Shields
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
HUFC have never been mighty, Or even close.
Makes me laugh when players/managers say pools are a big club, Even more so when fans believe it.
We are minnows in the football world.


In a small pond we a blue whale.
Watch us smash the Northern Premier east division next season
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Kev…applying that logic, if we end up in the under 11’s we’ll be mega giants with an average score of 80-0 a week..mind you, the present team will probably get a 4-4 draw.

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 Post subject: Re: South Shields
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Snowy wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
HUFC have never been mighty, Or even close.
Makes me laugh when players/managers say pools are a big club, Even more so when fans believe it.
We are minnows in the football world.


In a small pond we a blue whale.
Watch us smash the Northern Premier east division next season
UTP

Kev…applying that logic, if we end up in the under 11’s we’ll be mega giants with an average score of 80-0 a week..mind you, the present team will probably get a 4-4 draw.


Certainly wouldnt keep a clean sheet


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Brilliant result that for south shields, got a great opportunity playing in the conference. A step up from playing at peterlee a few year back in the northern league.


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PTID wrote:
Wasn't aimed at you Mr G, the only time people refer to the once mighty Pools is to slag them off, as you say there's nothing at all once mighty about us never having been above tier 3.
It's getting a bit monotonous when almost every thread is turned into a dig at either the club in general or the Chairman. You'd think it was actually other teams fans infiltrating the board at times.


Really not having a dig at the club OR Chairman, Nor am i a supporter of his
However he was as far as i know the only person who showed the slighest interset in saving our club
And for that reason alone i will not slag him off, Hurle abuse his way.

Hes no angel far from it if you believe the stories and high turnover of staff.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
HUFC have never been mighty, Or even close.
Makes me laugh when players/managers say pools are a big club, Even more so when fans believe it.
We are minnows in the football world.


When you can still pull in 4000 to 5000 after 100 years of struggle then managers and players probobly see massive potential.


Not the biggest gates i,ve been to for Lge games.
Mind i was impressed with the crowd size and Atmosphere in Lge2

But i can with belief say that if we start again crowds will never reach 5000 again, Not in my lifetime.


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I can’t see why South Shields can’t compete in the national league if they are promoted. They get larger crowds than half the teams in our league.


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I can’t see why South Shields can’t compete in the national league if they are promoted. They get larger crowds than half the teams in our league.


They attracted a lot of Mags & Mackems who were sick of how their clubs were being run.
When we played them in the Northern League, we made up about 95% of the crowd that day.
It will be interesting to see what happens when they get sold, or if the Mackems ever get back to the Premier League.


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2300 there Saturday. Any team that’s on a roll, no matter what league they are in will attract the punters. Every football fans wants to see a winning team.
Look at Macclesfield, they were lucky to get 2000 fans when in league two, now they’re getting double that.


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It will be the same for pools as well any success will be backed by large crowds no matter what happens over the next year.


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2300 there Saturday. Any team that’s on a roll, no matter what league they are in will attract the punters. Every football fans wants to see a winning team.
Look at Macclesfield, they were lucky to get 2000 fans when in league two, now they’re getting double that.

Any team on a roll does, …and when they’re not on a roll.

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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
HUFC have never been mighty, Or even close.
Makes me laugh when players/managers say pools are a big club, Even more so when fans believe it.
We are minnows in the football world.


When you can still pull in 4000 to 5000 after 100 years of struggle then managers and players probobly see massive potential.

so really then with crowds of that size we are one of the leagues minnows. even as a league club amongst the 92 we are and always were. even if the vic was refurbed with a 10,000 plus ground we,d hardly ever fill it. every club has its minimum and maximum gates they,ll ever get and ours will be lower that number i,m afraid.


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When you can still pull in 4000 to 5000 after 100 years of struggle then managers and players probobly see massive potential.

If as you say it’s been 100 years of struggle, why would you expect anything to change now. sctatchinghead

I see it differently, sunshine and rain, more rain than sunshine but the sunshine’s enjoyable when it come’s out.
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
HUFC have never been mighty, Or even close.
Makes me laugh when players/managers say pools are a big club, Even more so when fans believe it.
We are minnows in the football world.


When you can still pull in 4000 to 5000 after 100 years of struggle then managers and players probobly see massive potential.

so really then with crowds of that size we are one of the leagues minnows. even as a league club amongst the 92 we are and always were. even if the vic was refurbed with a 10,000 plus ground we,d hardly ever fill it. every club has its minimum and maximum gates they,ll ever get and ours will be lower that number i,m afraid.


We are pulling in 4000 to 5000 on the back of 100 years of misery. Name another club as bad that can pull in those gates? Rochdale? Halifax? Darlo? Newport? Crewe? If pools had big money owners like wrexham our crowds would not be 4000 to 5000 in league 2 we would also have had a major increase.

Look at wrexhams crowds over last 20 years, i know they have less competition so they had huge potential . We have never had apart from ior the opportunity to really see how big the club can get.


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We were pulling the crowds in during IOR, but in relative terms they weren’t that big considering the investment..but pre IOR they weren’t that good at all.
You got your peaks for the good spells but they were transient which used to pee me off, but generally we’ve been let down by local support….it’s a thing in Hartlepool for a percentage of the population to rubbish their own town and Pools were no exception to their malice

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We were pulling the crowds in during IOR, but in relative terms they weren’t that big considering the investment..but pre IOR they weren’t that good at all.
You got your peaks for the good spells but they were transient which used to pee me off, but generally we’ve been let down by local support….it’s a thing in Hartlepool for a percentage of the population to rubbish their own town and Pools were no exception to their malice


Things have changed though. Football lower down is very popular now, a lot of sunderland fans class pools as their second team, a lot regualrly come. We got rid of pay on the gate and crowds that had been fiddled for years, jumped rapidly. We were utter shite last season for 35 games, hardly won a game and averaged over 4500 at times, regularly take 1000 to games 2 hours away and are capable of selling out 5000 to london in hours for big cup game. We have untapped potential, which challinor started tapping into with a half decent team. Anew owner with half decent cash will see this come to fruition with any modicum of success.


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We are pulling in 4000 to 5000 on the back of 100 years of misery. Name another club as bad that can pull in those gates? Rochdale? Halifax? Darlo? Newport? Crewe? If pools had big money owners like wrexham our crowds would not be 4000 to 5000 in league 2 we would also have had a major increase.

Look at wrexhams crowds over last 20 years, i know they have less competition so they had huge potential . We have never had apart from ior the opportunity to really see how big the club can get.

its total guesswork though what our average crowds would be if we got a decent owner splashing the cash and pools gained promotion and were doing well back in the league. think every club mentions they have potential and you only have to look at mkdons and their ground to see that potential never reaches expectations for the majority.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
HUFC have never been mighty, Or even close.
Makes me laugh when players/managers say pools are a big club, Even more so when fans believe it.
We are minnows in the football world.


When you can still pull in 4000 to 5000 after 100 years of struggle then managers and players probobly see massive potential.

so really then with crowds of that size we are one of the leagues minnows. even as a league club amongst the 92 we are and always were. even if the vic was refurbed with a 10,000 plus ground we,d hardly ever fill it. every club has its minimum and maximum gates they,ll ever get and ours will be lower that number i,m afraid.


We are pulling in 4000 to 5000 on the back of 100 years of misery. Name another club as bad that can pull in those gates? Rochdale? Halifax? Darlo? Newport? Crewe? If pools had big money owners like wrexham our crowds would not be 4000 to 5000 in league 2 we would also have had a major increase.

Look at wrexhams crowds over last 20 years, i know they have less competition so they had huge potential . We have never had apart from ior the opportunity to really see how big the club can get.


You could also mention Stockport, Whos crowds were poor till the money man arrived.


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Grayhoundend wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
HUFC have never been mighty, Or even close.
Makes me laugh when players/managers say pools are a big club, Even more so when fans believe it.
We are minnows in the football world.


When you can still pull in 4000 to 5000 after 100 years of struggle then managers and players probobly see massive potential.

so really then with crowds of that size we are one of the leagues minnows. even as a league club amongst the 92 we are and always were. even if the vic was refurbed with a 10,000 plus ground we,d hardly ever fill it. every club has its minimum and maximum gates they,ll ever get and ours will be lower that number i,m afraid.


We are pulling in 4000 to 5000 on the back of 100 years of misery. Name another club as bad that can pull in those gates? Rochdale? Halifax? Darlo? Newport? Crewe? If pools had big money owners like wrexham our crowds would not be 4000 to 5000 in league 2 we would also have had a major increase.

Look at wrexhams crowds over last 20 years, i know they have less competition so they had huge potential . We have never had apart from ior the opportunity to really see how big the club can get.


You could also mention Stockport, Whos crowds were poor till the money man arrived.

Every club’s crowds go up when the ‘money man’ arrives…that’s quite normal, trouble is there ain’t any on the far horizon. And if he was a ‘money man’ as befits the title, Raj would be no problem to buy out.

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You could also mention Stockport, Whos crowds were poor till the money man arrived.

winning games help a long way though. they were getting over 5,000 the season before the take over that happened in the covid era. once in the mid table national league north they thought 2,500 was a good number. it does not matter who the owner is and i cannot see our gates rising until whats on offer on the pitch improves with wins and not who actually is the club owner. does anyone really not coming because of raj and would come back for the first game of a new era. we might get a few fans from across the country attending games but the majority of poolies and fans of smaller clubs would live in a 5 mile radius of the ground. compare hartlepool to stockport and you,ll see which town has the most potential if its just down to population alone.


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Exactly, Bill Gates could buy the club but if we didn't start winning games how many more would come?


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If bill gates owned the club though chances of winning games would be seriously enhanced, its no shock to see wrexham and stockport winning games regularly now. Money basically buys wins.


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Another good win for south shields last night. Another play off contender beaten.


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Not at Chelsea presently, and Man City weren't overnight successes either. Man Utd have spaffed a fortune but aren't pulling up trees.
Money can certainly help but guarantees nothing.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
If bill gates owned the club though chances of winning games would be seriously enhanced, its no shock to see wrexham and stockport winning games regularly now. Money basically buys wins.

Er obviously, but how many other clubs at our level have cash heavy sugar daddies….not that I’d turn one down, but where are they?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:07 pm 
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Still goin good.
Beat the top team Saturday n currently 2nd top.
Wise decision from G Liddle. turning down the once mighty HUFC.


Saw them get knocked out of the facup few weeks back, one word Abysmal.
And so was Liddle, Think he left cause he knew he would struggle, Wise players do.


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 Post subject: Re: South Shields
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:07 pm 
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Snowy wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
If bill gates owned the club though chances of winning games would be seriously enhanced, its no shock to see wrexham and stockport winning games regularly now. Money basically buys wins.

Er obviously, but how many other clubs at our level have cash heavy sugar daddies….not that I’d turn one down, but where are they?

even with ones more reach a certain level and never push on from that. harrogate, salford, forest green to name just three without looking plus those who had it and pissed it up.


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 Post subject: Re: South Shields
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:19 pm 
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accrington fan wrote:
Snowy wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
If bill gates owned the club though chances of winning games would be seriously enhanced, its no shock to see wrexham and stockport winning games regularly now. Money basically buys wins.

Er obviously, but how many other clubs at our level have cash heavy sugar daddies….not that I’d turn one down, but where are they?

even with ones more reach a certain level and never push on from that. harrogate, salford, forest green to name just three without looking plus those who had it and pissed it up.

Stockport and Wrexham have been the two standout winners on the takeover stakes and it turns out unfortunately for us that it was Stockport who got benefit at our expense…and before anyone says we should have offered more, he was going and most clubs couldn’t have competed anyway…… but it appears Harrogate, Salford and Forest Green appear to be consolidating, in other words the bountiful owners have probably decided that they’ve spent enough or lost interest and things are ticking over, but for most clubs the arrival of a proper benefactor is a pipe dream.

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 Post subject: Re: South Shields
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:27 pm 
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You can turn round and say salford have come up about 5 leagues or so hit the buffers, but eventually they will buy there way out of league 2. Money guarantees nothing but if you want to go anywhere in football now you need it. Pools arent going to reach the premiership paying players 1500 a week and man city are probobly never going to end up in league 2 when they can afford the kevin de bruynes of this world.


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