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Voting time for me tomorrow - wonder what the outcome will be. Dirty tricks going by both Cons & Lab but I expect one of them to be the next MP.


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clappp Fucking Hell- Big Jill spoke up for the town, was beginning to think she was a cardboard cut out!

See Cruella was doing her Churchill nodding dog impression again- it's either that or she needs stronger tranquillisers to calm her rocking down - as this has taken place on her watch again :angry-screaming:


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clappp Fucking Hell- Big Jill spoke up for the town, was beginning to think she was a cardboard cut out!

See Cruella was doing her Churchill nodding dog impression again- it's either that or she needs stronger tranquillisers to calm her rocking down - as this has taken place on her watch again :angry-screaming:


Sympathies to the family, being cynical Mortimer will be looking to next years election, my bet is if Reform U.K. put up a candidate in Hartlepool they will win the seat.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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clappp Fucking Hell- Big Jill spoke up for the town, was beginning to think she was a cardboard cut out!

See Cruella was doing her Churchill nodding dog impression again- it's either that or she needs stronger tranquillisers to calm her rocking down - as this has taken place on her watch again :angry-screaming:


Sympathies to the family, being cynical Mortimer will be looking to next years election, my bet is if Reform U.K. put up a candidate in Hartlepool they will win the seat.

Reform split the vote the time before last and kept our even more useless disgraced ex MP Mike Hill in place who had to resign.
At least she actually got up and said the right thing, credit for doing it.
If she hadn’t you’d have been calling her for not doing it, as you’ve been doing constantly since the day she was elected, you were criticising her for from day one.

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Takes a death for the Invisible Woman to reappear.
As our MP she is partly responsible for letting any tom dick Harry and A- Seeker's in.


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Is that her sole contribution to the town since she was elected?
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She is not my MP but I wish my MP, who is also a Tory, was taking the same stance.
Judging by the emotion in her voice she is clearly angry and rightly so.
If she is getting bombarded by the townsfolk over this issue then what she said needs saying. Maybe some of the others in the house may get some inspiration to take the same line as her. I hope so. This problem is not for party political point scoring and we should all stand together on this, no matter what our political persuasion is.

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She is not my MP but I wish my MP, who is also a Tory, was taking the same stance.
Judging by the emotion in her voice she is clearly angry and rightly so.
If she is getting bombarded by the townsfolk over this issue then what she said needs saying. Maybe some of the others in the house may get some inspiration to take the same line as her. I hope so. This problem is not for party political point scoring and we should all stand together on this, no matter what our political persuasion is.

but the lefty view that gets more national publicity will not be liking her remarks no matter how true they are. there is more chance of her getting flak and the town being classed as somewhere frequented by racial bigots with no empathy for their fellow man than ever seeing a situation the vast majority want to see. If only sunak was stronger the next election could be a one issue one. Brexit last time and illegal immegration this time round. think we all know what labour would do.


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She is not my MP but I wish my MP, who is also a Tory, was taking the same stance.
Judging by the emotion in her voice she is clearly angry and rightly so.
If she is getting bombarded by the townsfolk over this issue then what she said needs saying. Maybe some of the others in the house may get some inspiration to take the same line as her. I hope so. This problem is not for party political point scoring and we should all stand together on this, no matter what our political persuasion is.

but the lefty view that gets more national publicity will not be liking her remarks no matter how true they are. there is more chance of her getting flak and the town being classed as somewhere frequented by racial bigots with no empathy for their fellow man than ever seeing a situation the vast majority want to see. If only sunak was stronger the next election could be a one issue one. Brexit last time and illegal immegration this time round. think we all know what labour would do.


Too many people make judgements on who is saying it and not on what is being said. At the next election it is the one issue that could sway it. It'll certainly be foremost in my mind. Labour don't appear to be keen on discussing the problem, never mind solving it. We'll be invaded by Palestinians shortly and who would bet against there being a fair smattering of terrorists amongst them.

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If only sunak was stronger the next election could be a one issue one. Brexit last time and illegal immegration this time round. think we all know what labour would do.


So you reckon the Tories have a credible record on illegal immigration to defend? 13 Years, 5 prime ministers, umpteen Home Secretaries, any amount of hot air and no policies that actually work. But give us another 5 years and we'll sort it. :lol:


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Is that her sole contribution to the town since she was elected?
Feel sorry for the 70 yo guy and his family.RIP

We’ll if she loses at the election we’ll have the pleasure of Brash, wasn’t he the Councillor who jumped ship when the Akers-Belcher travelling Circus took power…not saying much really is it :roll:

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If only sunak was stronger the next election could be a one issue one. Brexit last time and illegal immegration this time round. think we all know what labour would do.


So you reckon the Tories have a credible record on illegal immigration to defend? 13 Years, 5 prime ministers, umpteen Home Secretaries, any amount of hot air and no policies that actually work. But give us another 5 years and we'll sort it. :lol:

Blair started all this with Bush and then Obama’s Arab Spring and turned the Middle East into a basket case…..Getting rid of Sadam and Gaddaffi wasn’t such a good thing after all and Assad is still in charge.
Starmer is like a cushion, he carries the impression of the one who sat on him, he has his principles based the concept that if you don’t like them he can give you others.
The Tories have failed, Labour will fail, the Libs Dems are the UFO’s of politics and the rest are also runs….any chance of a common sense party on the horizon because we need one.

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Flying Hogans wrote:
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If only sunak was stronger the next election could be a one issue one. Brexit last time and illegal immegration this time round. think we all know what labour would do.


So you reckon the Tories have a credible record on illegal immigration to defend? 13 Years, 5 prime ministers, umpteen Home Secretaries, any amount of hot air and no policies that actually work. But give us another 5 years and we'll sort it. :lol:

thats why i said that sunak has to be stronger on the issue. really things were not like they are now up to a few years ago and was not the issue it is now. gone from a minor irratant to people being murdered which will not stop. with our current voting system votes for party,s like reform would at best see only a small handful of MP,s and more likely take votes off the tories rather than the left. this is going to happen in london where khan will still have his block of supporters whilst the others will eat themselves alive by getting more votes against him but will be all split up amongst them all. i can see it i wish all those candidates could.


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derwent wrote:
She is not my MP but I wish my MP, who is also a Tory, was taking the same stance.
Judging by the emotion in her voice she is clearly angry and rightly so.
If she is getting bombarded by the townsfolk over this issue then what she said needs saying. Maybe some of the others in the house may get some inspiration to take the same line as her. I hope so. This problem is not for party political point scoring and we should all stand together on this, no matter what our political persuasion is.


I don’t believe that she is never in the town only for photo opportunities, why does it a death for her to stand up and make a speech in Parliament ?


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Is that her sole contribution to the town since she was elected?
Feel sorry for the 70 yo guy and his family.RIP

We’ll if she loses at the election we’ll have the pleasure of Brash, wasn’t he the Councillor who jumped ship when the Akers-Belcher travelling Circus took power…not saying much really is it :roll:


Unfortunately irrespective who wins Hartlepool it has to be some one from the 2 major parties to have any sort of voice in Parliament. A candidate from the likes of Reform U.K. won’t have a voice in Parliament and I do believe if they stand a candidate in Hartlepool they will take the seat, a far right racist party supported by a racist right wing News channel GB News.


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Flying Hogans wrote:
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If only sunak was stronger the next election could be a one issue one. Brexit last time and illegal immegration this time round. think we all know what labour would do.


So you reckon the Tories have a credible record on illegal immigration to defend? 13 Years, 5 prime ministers, umpteen Home Secretaries, any amount of hot air and no policies that actually work. But give us another 5 years and we'll sort it. :lol:


What happens in the next twelve months or so will have more impact on the G E than the last 13 years. They say a week is a long time in politics. Lots of weeks left for opinion to be altered. Things might look a lot different when polling day arrives. If it was next week then that would be different.

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Jamie1952 wrote:
derwent wrote:
She is not my MP but I wish my MP, who is also a Tory, was taking the same stance.
Judging by the emotion in her voice she is clearly angry and rightly so.
If she is getting bombarded by the townsfolk over this issue then what she said needs saying. Maybe some of the others in the house may get some inspiration to take the same line as her. I hope so. This problem is not for party political point scoring and we should all stand together on this, no matter what our political persuasion is.


I don’t believe that she is never in the town only for photo opportunities, why does it a death for her to stand up and make a speech in Parliament ?


I am not in a position to answer for her. I have no idea what she does or does not do and I don't listen to gossip from people who don't want her in the job and haven't from day one. I am commenting on what I saw and heard her say in parliament and I agree with every word, She was having a go at her boss after all and I admire someone who is prepared to do that instead of a nodding donkey. Deaths usually stir the blood though as do the prospect of murderers wandering loose amongst the community. There appears to be a high level of tension over this and she is reflecting that.

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A candidate from the likes of Reform U.K. won’t have a voice in Parliament and I do believe if they stand a candidate in Hartlepool they will take the seat, a far right racist party supported by a racist right wing News channel GB News.

Have you ever watched GB News…I watch all the channels around Europe but never the BBC news, Sky news or God forbid channel 4.
How you make it out to be ‘Far right’ is a complete mystery with the the likes of Denis McShane on the panel as a regular and two of Corbyns advisors as regulars you get two points of view and no squabbling.
Far right sctatchinghead I’m getting visions of Eamonn Holmes and Anne Diamond goose stepping into work,… if that’s far right you’re judgement needs recalibrating…especially as it now gets a bigger audience than Sky, BBC and Channel 4 news combined and they don’t like it.

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Far right sctatchinghead I’m getting visions of Eamonn Holmes and Anne Diamond goose stepping into work,…


Tsk. Eamonn would never have been able to lift his legs high enough. Anne Diamond though... she could have rocked a pair of jackboots back in the day.


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A candidate from the likes of Reform U.K. won’t have a voice in Parliament and I do believe if they stand a candidate in Hartlepool they will take the seat, a far right racist party supported by a racist right wing News channel GB News.

Have you ever watched GB News…I watch all the channels around Europe but never the BBC news, Sky news or God forbid channel 4.
How you make it out to be ‘Far right’ is a complete mystery with the the likes of Denis McShane on the panel as a regular and two of Corbyns advisors as regulars you get two points of view and no squabbling.
Far right sctatchinghead I’m getting visions of Eamonn Holmes and Anne Diamond goose stepping into work,… if that’s far right you’re judgement needs recalibrating…especially as it now gets a bigger audience than Sky, BBC and Channel 4 news combined and they don’t like it.[/

Where do you glean your statistics from Snowy about viewing audiences, GB News itself, it is a right wing channel like it or not.


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Where do you glean your statistics from Snowy about viewing audiences, GB News itself, it is a right wing channel like it or not.

‘it is a right wing channel like it or not’…..You’re talking through your orifice, I’ll like whatever I like, you are ze one giving out ze orders zat must be obeyed at all times to close down topics you see no point of…. :laugh: :laugh:

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Can't understand how GB News can be described as racist right wing channel,when it has black presenters.

They feature more genuine left wing presenters than any other channel and every discussion features every political viewpoint.

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Can't understand how GB News can be described as racist right wing channel,when it has black presenters.


I never said GB News was racist, I said Refoem U.K. we’re.


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The channel is described as right-leaning on political issues. You have Anderson, Mogg, Farage, Davies, McVey, all Conservative MPs other presenters who have worked as journalists for the right wing media.

The channel has been found to have breached Ofcom's standards on several occasions and as of August 2023 was the subject of seven investigations into its compliance with Ofcom's due impartiality rules, including cases of potential breaches of the rule that apart from exceptional circumstances, politicians should not act as newsreaders, reporters or interviewers


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The channel is described as right-leaning on political issues. You have Anderson, Mogg, Farage, Davies, McVey, all Conservative MPs other presenters who have worked as journalists for the right wing media.

The channel has been found to have breached Ofcom's standards on several occasions and as of August 2023 was the subject of seven investigations into its compliance with Ofcom's due impartiality rules, including cases of potential breaches of the rule that apart from exceptional circumstances, politicians should not act as newsreaders, reporters or interviewers

Do you listen , yes they have Tories on, they also have some really left wing commentators on and far more left wing than the pussy cats on the BBC Sky and even Channel 4 (ITV is for the brain dead).
Every, that’s EVERY programme features a full panel of political viewpoints…..if you don’t like it, don’t watch it!
The mainstream media has been wetting itself since it went on air and Talk T V is another channel in exactly the same mould and worth watching too….for a change from the patronising drivel on the mainstream channels.

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The channel is described as right-leaning on political issues. You have Anderson, Mogg, Farage, Davies, McVey, all Conservative MPs other presenters who have worked as journalists for the right wing media.

The channel has been found to have breached Ofcom's standards on several occasions and as of August 2023 was the subject of seven investigations into its compliance with Ofcom's due impartiality rules, including cases of potential breaches of the rule that apart from exceptional circumstances, politicians should not act as newsreaders, reporters or interviewers

Do you listen , yes they have Tories on, they also have some really left wing commentators on and far more left wing than the pussy cats on the BBC Sky and even Channel 4 (ITV is for the brain dead).
Every, that’s EVERY programme features a full panel of political viewpoints…..if you don’t like it, don’t watch it!
The mainstream media has been wetting itself since it went on air and Talk T V is another channel in exactly the same mould and worth watching too….for a change from the patronising drivel on the mainstream channels.



If it was the last tv station on earth I wouldn’t watch it likewise Talk TV.which is owned by Rupert Murdoch.


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Can’t believe people don’t think GB News is a right wing channel. I reckon even Hitler would have thought the propaganda was a bit too obvious. It has a black girl as a presenter but she is more right wing than Farage and I would guess that’s why she got the job. Do you think she would get a job on there if she had a history of supporting BLM? Every presenter I’ve seen on it is right wing.
Nothing wrong with having a right wing channel but I don’t get how you can watch it and not see how biased it is.


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Can’t believe people don’t think GB News is a right wing channel. I reckon even Hitler would have thought the propaganda was a bit too obvious. It has a black girl as a presenter but she is more right wing than Farage and I would guess that’s why she got the job. Do you think she would get a job on there if she had a history of supporting BLM? Every presenter I’ve seen on it is right wing.
Nothing wrong with having a right wing channel but I don’t get how you can watch it and not see how biased it is.

it seems more right wing because the others cater for those who mainly read the guardian and unsure what a woman is. having someone of any colour is not a guarentee either of whether a chennel is left, right or centre. Even they pussy foot around about the subject of a needle in an arm which still seems a subject totally verboten.


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What happens in the next twelve months or so will have more impact on the G E than the last 13 years. They say a week is a long time in politics. Lots of weeks left for opinion to be altered. Things might look a lot different when polling day arrives. If it was next week then that would be different.

after last nights by election results next week can only get better for the tories. no party really can go lower than they are now. its like football where we were so glad to see the back of hughes we accepted curle with open arms.


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If only sunak was stronger the next election could be a one issue one. Brexit last time and illegal immegration this time round. think we all know what labour would do.


So you reckon the Tories have a credible record on illegal immigration to defend? 13 Years, 5 prime ministers, umpteen Home Secretaries, any amount of hot air and no policies that actually work. But give us another 5 years and we'll sort it. :lol:


What happens in the next twelve months or so will have more impact on the G E than the last 13 years. They say a week is a long time in politics. Lots of weeks left for opinion to be altered. Things might look a lot different when polling day arrives. If it was next week then that would be different.


The next general election will be 1997 all over again, even allowing for the fact that Starmer is a colourless drip. I guarantee it's not just Lefties like me who think this - True Blues like of Mr I are already looking beyond getting shot of Sunak (the leader they never wanted) and 4-5 years of Labour government by focus group. Boris is playing the long game too.


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Can’t believe people don’t think GB News is a right wing channel. I reckon even Hitler would have thought the propaganda was a bit too obvious. It has a black girl as a presenter but she is more right wing than Farage and I would guess that’s why she got the job. Do you think she would get a job on there if she had a history of supporting BLM? Every presenter I’ve seen on it is right wing.
Nothing wrong with having a right wing channel but I don’t get how you can watch it and not see how biased it is.

You are applying your interpretation of your norm, which is your right, but because something offends you, doesn’t mean to say it is wrong. Be a funny old world if everyone demanded people thought the same
Nowadays I can watch channels around the world even NHKJapan, France 24, Euronews and even Al Jazeera are my favourites, (no US channels) so you get a chance to appreciate others viewpoint….. just sticking to what you are comfortable with makes Jack a dull boy. Not exposing yourself to alternative views stunts your growth.

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The channel is described as right-leaning on political issues. You have Anderson, Mogg, Farage, Davies, McVey, all Conservative MPs other presenters who have worked as journalists for the right wing media.

The channel has been found to have breached Ofcom's standards on several occasions and as of August 2023 was the subject of seven investigations into its compliance with Ofcom's due impartiality rules, including cases of potential breaches of the rule that apart from exceptional circumstances, politicians should not act as newsreaders, reporters or interviewers

Do you listen , yes they have Tories on, they also have some really left wing commentators on and far more left wing than the pussy cats on the BBC Sky and even Channel 4 (ITV is for the brain dead).
Every, that’s EVERY programme features a full panel of political viewpoints…..if you don’t like it, don’t watch it!
The mainstream media has been wetting itself since it went on air and Talk T V is another channel in exactly the same mould and worth watching too….for a change from the patronising drivel on the mainstream channels.



If it was the last tv station on earth I wouldn’t watch it likewise Talk TV.which is owned by Rupert Murdoch.

No surprise there then Kier.

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The next general election will be 1997 all over again, even allowing for the fact that Starmer is a colourless drip. I guarantee it's not just Lefties like me who think this - True Blues like of Mr I are already looking beyond getting shot of Sunak (the leader they never wanted) and 4-5 years of Labour government by focus group. Boris is playing the long game too.

think a lot is short term thinking. the tories have upset there supporters so much on every issue they have become unelectable. however voting labour will certainly not redress the balance for them. how the tories have failed on all issues since the last general election would have only been magnified with labour in power. you might as well just abstain from voting because if you put in your lot with say reform under the present first past the post system you will be even more annoyed by it all. just look at wales under labour and scotland under a left wing regime to see what the future holds. plus sadiq khan the da. rling of labour in greater london and the greens and lib dems in oxford. who seriously wants any of that coming to a town near you.


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The next general election will be 1997 all over again, even allowing for the fact that Starmer is a colourless drip. I guarantee it's not just Lefties like me who think this - True Blues like of Mr I are already looking beyond getting shot of Sunak (the leader they never wanted) and 4-5 years of Labour government by focus group. Boris is playing the long game too.

think a lot is short term thinking. the tories have upset there supporters so much on every issue they have become unelectable. however voting labour will certainly not redress the balance for them. how the tories have failed on all issues since the last general election would have only been magnified with labour in power. you might as well just abstain from voting because if you put in your lot with say reform under the present first past the post system you will be even more annoyed by it all. just look at wales under labour and scotland under a left wing regime to see what the future holds. plus sadiq khan the da. rling of labour in greater london and the greens and lib dems in oxford. who seriously wants any of that coming to a town near you.

Under the present system, if you’re not Labour or Tory you really are irrelevant.
So unless proportional representation comes in we might as well have a see-saw Parliament where they take turns Tory Goverment for the odd decades and Labour for the even decades….. joking of course, before someone endorses it. :laugh:

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A MP can claim travel from their constituency to Parliament.
Mrs Doubtfire has done it 60 time but none from Hartlepool. They were all from York and Thirsk. She lives in Thirsk on a farm.
For political balance at least Mike Hill who was equally as useless did travel from Hartlepool.
Its just a joke. :laugh:

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The channel is described as right-leaning on political issues. You have Anderson, Mogg, Farage, Davies, McVey, all Conservative MPs other presenters who have worked as journalists for the right wing media.

The channel has been found to have breached Ofcom's standards on several occasions and as of August 2023 was the subject of seven investigations into its compliance with Ofcom's due impartiality rules, including cases of potential breaches of the rule that apart from exceptional circumstances, politicians should not act as newsreaders, reporters or interviewers

Do you listen , yes they have Tories on, they also have some really left wing commentators on and far more left wing than the pussy cats on the BBC Sky and even Channel 4 (ITV is for the brain dead).
Every, that’s EVERY programme features a full panel of political viewpoints…..if you don’t like it, don’t watch it!
The mainstream media has been wetting itself since it went on air and Talk T V is another channel in exactly the same mould and worth watching too….for a change from the patronising drivel on the mainstream channels.



If it was the last tv station on earth I wouldn’t watch it likewise Talk TV.which is owned by Rupert Murdoch.

No surprise there then Kier.


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The next general election will be 1997 all over again, even allowing for the fact that Starmer is a colourless drip. I guarantee it's not just Lefties like me who think this - True Blues like of Mr I are already looking beyond getting shot of Sunak (the leader they never wanted) and 4-5 years of Labour government by focus group. Boris is playing the long game too.

think a lot is short term thinking. the tories have upset there supporters so much on every issue they have become unelectable. however voting labour will certainly not redress the balance for them. how the tories have failed on all issues since the last general election would have only been magnified with labour in power. you might as well just abstain from voting because if you put in your lot with say reform under the present first past the post system you will be even more annoyed by it all. just look at wales under labour and scotland under a left wing regime to see what the future holds. plus sadiq khan the da. rling of labour in greater london and the greens and lib dems in oxford. who seriously wants any of that coming to a town near you.

Under the present system, if you’re not Labour or Tory you really are irrelevant.
So unless proportional representation comes in we might as well have a see-saw Parliament where they take turns Tory Goverment for the odd decades and Labour for the even decades….. joking of course, before someone endorses it. :laugh:



A referendum was held in 2011 on the same day as local elections which are notorious for low turnouts, I think the Tory government did this on purpose knowing there would be a low turn out as there is normally for council elections meaning the majority of electors wouldn’t bother voting. There was a hung Parliament, part of the Lib Dem’s agreement to join in a coalition was to have a vote on proportional representation.
On a turnout of 42.2 percent, 68 percent voted 'No' and 32 percent voted 'Yes'.


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A referendum was held in 2011 on the same day as local elections which are notorious for low turnouts, I think the Tory government did this on purpose knowing there would be a low turn out as there is normally for council elections meaning the majority of electors wouldn’t bother voting. There was a hung Parliament, part of the Lib Dem’s agreement to join in a coalition was to have a vote on proportional representation.
On a turnout of 42.2 percent, 68 percent voted 'No' and 32 percent voted 'Yes'.

the tory voters are not happy with the last 4 years of tory rule. doubt all labour voters will be happy with the first 4 years of another middle of the road labour government either. can easily see a left wing version of reform being set up to bring in socialist policies. then the fat will really hit the pan with large numbers voting for new right or left wing patry,s that end up possibly with zero seats between em but together have a large minority number of votes which added together could be the same as the party that came in second in the election. then i feel a PR vote would get through and like brexit many politicians of the big two will not like it.


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If only sunak was stronger the next election could be a one issue one. Brexit last time and illegal immegration this time round. think we all know what labour would do.


So you reckon the Tories have a credible record on illegal immigration to defend? 13 Years, 5 prime ministers, umpteen Home Secretaries, any amount of hot air and no policies that actually work. But give us another 5 years and we'll sort it. :lol:


What happens in the next twelve months or so will have more impact on the G E than the last 13 years. They say a week is a long time in politics. Lots of weeks left for opinion to be altered. Things might look a lot different when polling day arrives. If it was next week then that would be different.


The next general election will be 1997 all over again, even allowing for the fact that Starmer is a colourless drip. I guarantee it's not just Lefties like me who think this - True Blues like of Mr I are already looking beyond getting shot of Sunak (the leader they never wanted) and 4-5 years of Labour government by focus group. Boris is playing the long game too.


There certainly is a striking resemblance to 1997. Will the Tories let it happen again?
Sunak is responsible for the demise of the Tory Darling and he doesn't look like they're about to forgive and forget.
As for Boris is there a way back, I wouldn't bet against it.
The other day I was having a discussion with a elderly lady who traditionally votes Labour and she said if Boris was leader again she would vote Tory. I was taken aback a bit so asked why. She said it's quite simple I felt safer with him in charge.

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its still funny how a bumbling baffoon is still seen as a safer pair of hands than the two main party leaders. shows how memories can be really short with his soft brexit, covid measures and his inability to rid us of the woke thats if he ever tried in the first place.


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its still funny how a bumbling baffoon is still seen as a safer pair of hands than the two main party leaders. shows how memories can be really short with his soft brexit, covid measures and his inability to rid us of the woke thats if he ever tried in the first place.


Labour are terrified of him as were the SNP. Those two parties didn't let a week go by without demanding he goes. Sunak just rumbles on. If there's gonna be a change Bojo will pop up somewhere. A Tory held seat where they can galvanise the faithful to cast their votes. Partygate... what partygate.

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Rumours going round Farage might be looking at rejoining the Tory Party and attempt to become the party leader albeit he has stood as MP on numerous occasions and failed. It could be different if he stood as a Tory though.
2 politicians I do favour but they are not MPs are Andy Burnham and Rory Stewart, I doubt Burnham would quit his current job and Stewart is making good living away from politics.


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its still funny how a bumbling baffoon is still seen as a safer pair of hands than the two main party leaders. shows how memories can be really short with his soft brexit, covid measures and his inability to rid us of the woke thats if he ever tried in the first place.


Labour are terrified of him as were the SNP. Those two parties didn't let a week go by without demanding he goes. Sunak just rumbles on. If there's gonna be a change Bojo will pop up somewhere. A Tory held seat where they can galvanise the faithful to cast their votes. Partygate... what partygate.


What did Johnson ever achieve, a proven liar even lied to the Queen, promising to get Brexit done and we are no further forward. Parties at Downing Street when people couldn’t their relatives in Care Homes and when they did pass away numbers were very limited at funerals. Prince Philips funeral the Queen sat on her own at the funeral. Johnson is a buffoon and anybody who thinks he should resurrected is as well !

I tell you what if he stood in Hartlepool he would get elected, we elected a football mascot dressed as a monkey as the mayor.


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its still funny how a bumbling baffoon is still seen as a safer pair of hands than the two main party leaders. shows how memories can be really short with his soft brexit, covid measures and his inability to rid us of the woke thats if he ever tried in the first place.


Labour are terrified of him as were the SNP. Those two parties didn't let a week go by without demanding he goes. Sunak just rumbles on. If there's gonna be a change Bojo will pop up somewhere. A Tory held seat where they can galvanise the faithful to cast their votes. Partygate... what partygate.


What did Johnson ever achieve, a proven liar even lied to the Queen, promising to get Brexit done and we are no further forward. Parties at Downing Street when people couldn’t their relatives in Care Homes and when they did pass away numbers were very limited at funerals. Prince Philips funeral the Queen sat on her own at the funeral. Johnson is a buffoon and anybody who thinks he should resurrected is as well !

I tell you what if he stood in Hartlepool he would get elected, we elected a football mascot dressed as a monkey as the mayor.


Going over old ground Jamie, we know his record but it doesn't seem to matter if the party faithful want him they will stay at home till they get him. Then they will elect him leader again then it's up to the country and it is no secret that people are saying they would rather have Boris than Starmer. That is why Labour are terrified of him. Of course it might never happen but the fact that it could brings on the jitters.
Did the Mayor do a good job for Hartlepool??

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Can’t believe people don’t think GB News is a right wing channel. I reckon even Hitler would have thought the propaganda was a bit too obvious. It has a black girl as a presenter but she is more right wing than Farage and I would guess that’s why she got the job. Do you think she would get a job on there if she had a history of supporting BLM? Every presenter I’ve seen on it is right wing.
Nothing wrong with having a right wing channel but I don’t get how you can watch it and not see how biased it is.

You are applying your interpretation of your norm, which is your right, but because something offends you, doesn’t mean to say it is wrong. Be a funny old world if everyone demanded people thought the same
Nowadays I can watch channels around the world even NHKJapan, France 24, Euronews and even Al Jazeera are my favourites, (no US channels) so you get a chance to appreciate others viewpoint….. just sticking to what you are comfortable with makes Jack a dull boy. Not exposing yourself to alternative views stunts your growth.




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derwent wrote:
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If only sunak was stronger the next election could be a one issue one. Brexit last time and illegal immegration this time round. think we all know what labour would do.


So you reckon the Tories have a credible record on illegal immigration to defend? 13 Years, 5 prime ministers, umpteen Home Secretaries, any amount of hot air and no policies that actually work. But give us another 5 years and we'll sort it. :lol:


What happens in the next twelve months or so will have more impact on the G E than the last 13 years. They say a week is a long time in politics. Lots of weeks left for opinion to be altered. Things might look a lot different when polling day arrives. If it was next week then that would be different.


The next general election will be 1997 all over again, even allowing for the fact that Starmer is a colourless drip. I guarantee it's not just Lefties like me who think this - True Blues like of Mr I are already looking beyond getting shot of Sunak (the leader they never wanted) and 4-5 years of Labour government by focus group. Boris is playing the long game too.


There certainly is a striking resemblance to 1997. Will the Tories let it happen again?
Sunak is responsible for the demise of the Tory Darling and he doesn't look like they're about to forgive and forget.
As for Boris is there a way back, I wouldn't bet against it.
The other day I was having a discussion with a elderly lady who traditionally votes Labour and she said if Boris was leader again she would vote Tory. I was taken aback a bit so asked why. She said it's quite simple I felt safer with him in charge.



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