The Stockport message board will make lively viewing tonight


Cheers….Thank You

All that money and pipped by Carlisle.
Oh dear.
Pop goes that balloon.

Somebody has already posted that DC got the subs wrong.

League 2 is going to be an absolute bastard to get out of next year as well

Mk dons, wrexham, Notts county, gillingham , Mansfield and Bradford all with
money and or momentum

Can see 2 faced Dave fist pumping his way up and down the unemployment line come Xmas

Must of filled Wembley stockport with their fans they are massive. Oh hang on total attendance 34000. Maybe not so massive after all, that result couldn't of happened to a more arrogant set of fans. Gutted for them.

Well that’s buggered DC’s chances of a promotion hat trick…….. I‘ve just heard a ship coming into the docks when out to sea reported seeing a smug glow over the Vic.

Northampton must be happy going up after losing their best centre back to money bags Stockport

Biggest budget in the league and you fucked it up Dave

After a rocky start they've had a good season and I'd think the owner will be looking for them starting fast next season otherwise DCs position will be under huge threat. Shame.

Trouble with some owners who bang in loads of cash, they expect success as written …not hope for success.

Does anyone know how many Stockport took to Wembley?? Mr Accy??

Sad to see so much gloating. DC was offered a mega pay rise, in a location close to home, to be part of a proper club infrastructure and work with a chairman with ambition. He had to take the job. Arrogant Stockport fans though.... they can choke on it.

Don’t blame him for taking the job but he was very political and definitely over egged the cake with his faux affinity for us

It’s not beyond the realm of possibility he slinks back here in a couple of years, don’t see him surviving long at Stockport, the league is stronger next year and he has likely peaked

Not that I was worried about who won today but there has to be a better way of deciding import games rather than a penalty shoot out.

Forget extra time and just play next goals the winner

Completely agree with you PTID. Although delighted Carlisle U beat THEM at Wembley today it should be golden goal 'cause tiredness and mistakes creep in. Great if you win but murder if you lose. But to lose on pens. I know someone has to win and it was inevitable that someone would miss but felt sorry for the lad who did miss and it was game over. That will never leave him, blamed, guilt what ever. A lottery really like the play off themselves. Should be like the old days with top four going up.

Quite like the play offs myself as it extends the season competitively. But as you say a penalty miss especially at higher levels could potentially finish a player's career or worse, probably get horrendous abuse even from so called own fans.

Stockport only got to the final via a penalty shootout win against Salford in the semis so it was third time unlucky for Challinor.

Would have preferred to see Carlisle's horrible fans disappointed but I can't say it matters much who's in League 2 next season - not our division.

Funny, on the Twitter page of Stockport you can find mocking comments from, *breathes* Salford, Burnley, Rochdale, Halifax, Hartlepool, Gateshead, Wrexham, Leyton Orient, Northampton Town, Bolton Wanderers, Chesterfield, Stevenage and AFC Fylde fans.

Have one club ever managed to make that many enemies? Such a dislikable club.

Of course he was political, he had had Raj to deal with. Raj is still keeping it going, even quite recently.

Faux affinity? Once he left he didn't need to have to express any affinity at all. Makes me think that it was genuine. If you do really understand why he took the job then you'll understand that him leaving doesn't make the affinity false.

I think DC will have a good season next year. Stockports chairman knows he has recruited a good manager and he won't sack him on a whim.

The Cobblers I know are absolutely delighted - I've had several people stop and thank me for us getting a draw against Stockport, given that they missed out on automatic promotion by 1 goal last season after Scunthorpe completely capitulated against Brizzle Rovers. Apparently they were singing our praises in the stands, once our result came through, before their game had finished!

We buggered up Stockport’s chance’s of promotion on the final day and they lost out in the final by their own failure.
There was one ‘poolie’ regular on their board extolling his only reason for being there regularly was to follow DC….,seriously…?
Can we now put the lingering ghost of Challinor to bed and move on with our own team and agenda, constant references to the bloke and how great he was now have no relevance to us whatsoever, this morbid obsession is pointless when we have a new manager worth following.

The other boys started it Mr Snowy.

Personally, I think we've potentially found another cracking manager. Let's hope we get a new owner to match, or as I've said before, a self reinvented and reformed Raj Singh will be just fine.

Heard about 17,000.

yes, and i,m afraid this dislike of stockport is not down to their extra money but its because of one thing dave challinor. it seems odd for poolies prefering a team to get promoted that damaged our ground, always had an edge to the fixture over a club we have never had problems with before. taking joy from a defeat of an ex manager who did his best with us giving us one promotion unlike many others who made us worse. he left for many reasons that have been mentioned in the past but lets forget DC and concentrate on JA and the future.

yes, wrexham. mk dons and the rest of the new age bankrolled clubs. its twitter so equally if they had gone down like us the same number would be wishing em all the best in non league and hope they get back where they belong.

its not just the play offs, its all other games that end up being drawn that should not be decided on penalty kicks. Only a goalkeeper is the one remembered for any saves he makes. who remembers any of the scorers in one. crawford cost us an apperance at wembley and rydel cost them a possible promotion by his kick being saved. imagine he did not have a decent sleep last night. if he didn,t he either is in the wrong job or no real affection for the club he is currently with. same especially for a championship clubs player that failure to score costs his club millions of quid. play offs anyway happen at the end of a long slog with players who could be carrying injuries, tired out and actually knowing they will not be at the club next season. what a time and way to decide a clubs future for more cash that the clubs do not get anyway in the final.

How many seats would have been on the Wembley pitch if Carlisle had lost?

I preferred Carlisle going up more for the fact that they've not been bankrolled to a ridiculous level like Stockport. Their manager is a local lad I believe and he's built a promotion team at a very unfashionable club with an average budget. Whereas Stockport have had a huge budget and blew it, just proves that money isn't everything.

That’s why I hate the Premier League, in general the majority of teams can’t compete with the large budgets of the top teams.

Thanks, I thought they would have taken more that that.

Exactly.
Fully agree Mr PTID.

Glad Carlisle went up tbh - makes feck all odds to us anyways what happened so not assed.

But ill be backing Stockport for an automatic promotion like for next season.

Chally will be given a few quid and no doubt will spend it wisely. A Langstaff type player no doubt will enter their ranks

He’ll continue to play 5-3-2 and fuck up dramatically whenever he tries to change that formation

They should be up there or aboouts the amount of money they have but expect a few clubs to be above them

Or some championship club will decide to take a chance on him and Stockport will get Curle in to assess the situation.

money means nothing when many in the side are nowhere near fully fit and you have to cobble a team together on what you have. something both pools and stockport suffered throught last season with neither club able to put out a team they would have liked to put out from day 1 with players played out of position more than once.

Money means everything when like Stockport you can bring in around 10 replacements that are still off higher quality than what our first team was. No sympathy for Stockport their budget was probobly 2 or 3 times more than ours and still couldn't do the business when it mattered.

you can have all the money in the world but you can only recruit in the transfer windows and your squad is also limited in size like anyother club.

The end of the day we finished 23rd paying peanuts and they got to Wembley paying fortunes. Money has still made them way better than us.

Did we pay peanuts though, Hastie is reputedly on £2600pw with Cooke not far behind c. £2300?
Overall budget was reported to be in the same ballpark as Carlisle (promoted) and Barrow who have a similar geographical constraint.
Looks more like piss poor recruitment than salary structure.

No way any Pools player is on that sort of money. If we were paying those sort of wages why do we always struggle to tempt these forwards we pretend to be after every transfer window? Why did we shop in Scotlands dog and duck leagues and why can't we get any player playing regularly for a league 2 club? Just doesn't make sense.

Bang on Mr PT1D.
Just shite recruitment decisions by Mr Hartley and Mr Trotter.
That's exactly what it was.
Could have come off with better judgement and more due diligence stuff but didn't.
Too "hasty" perhaps and a bit of panic with the Jock element.
What a pair of bozos.

I agree I don’t believe the wages of Hastie and Cook but I do believe they were in the £1500 bracket which is still not peanuts. Yes surely down to poor recruitment not the budget.

Some of it is obviously terrible recruitment, but every manager? One common denominator in all of it. Even Challinor was forced to go for the likes of Mike Fondop. Every single season without fail our better players leave. Will it change this season?

Get used to it.
Apart from a few years with IOR its always been the same at pools in over 100 years.
Players if they are decent will move on to other clubs with more money.
But most go nowhere after leaving.
We shop in the bargain basement out of necessity and that's what you would expect.
Law of the jungle.
You should know the only way that will change, because you have been told a million times on here.
But it still just doesn't seem register with you does it.

Callum Cooke WAS playing regularly in League 2 for Bradford City - he hardly missed a game for them in 2021-22. Released by Hughes because he had money to burn on a new squad - how he's still in a job after not even making the play-off final really is a mystery.

I'm not convinced Cooke won't push for a move this summer because whatever he's on he didn't sign up to play in the NL. Some of the jokers who lump him in as part of the 'terrible recruitment' will be up in arms if he's allowed to leave.

true, and getting away from short contracts for good players and long ones for the crap also needs to stop. we need continuity season on season and not starting from scratch every season after the better ones have left. if a good player wants just a season then go for someone else you rate and want who will accept longer. the club has the final answer and not the player or agent.

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Callum Cooke WAS playing regularly in League 2 for Bradford City - he hardly missed a game for them in 2021-22. Released by Hughes because he had money to burn on a new squad - how he's still in a job after not even making the play-off final really is a mystery.

bradfords choices of a manager are as bad as pools are and its their money that keeps em competative. A few bradford fans i know blame hughes for not getting up automatically with the players they have and putting the shackles on em too much. they,d like him gone but like us fear his replacement more.

Spot on kingkenellis whilst players leave very few better themselves career wise and are still playing in L2. Look at last seasons players leaving to Doncaster, Bradford, Tranmere, Stockport. Some of them couldn’t even get regular starts and have been released this season.

It's good to see you have returned after a few months absence.

We used to shop in the bargain basement because our crowds were dreadful, we don't have that excuse anymore. We used to shop in league 2 and non league we now shop in the Scottish leagues and non league on more than a regular basis, rarely do we pick up any players which other clubs in league 2 deem decent.

Even in past years when we didn't have a penny to our name we were ready for the new season, the last two seasons we have been a complete mess before a ball has been kicked.

Let's stop using the past as a get out of jail card.