Owen Moxen

New possible signing
Part time for years, even had a spell at near Sunday league level with Gretna on loan, Jesus we’re in deep shit, if we’re looking at lad at this level.

Have we really sunk that low, we’re going down if this is now signings we’re going to be making

Tell you what, even the likes of the rose tinted glasses club people, will after see the clubs in trouble with signings like this, Jesus, no one can defend signings like this.

Annan play in the 2nd div of the Scottish league, it has been compared to northern league level of English football, as one reporter put it, it is the back waters of football, and if you end up playing in this level of football, you know your career is all but over.

Here is what I think is happening, starting with the shocking and cheap appointment of Lee and Nelson, Raj is taking us down the road of cheap signings, on poor wages, that will cost him next to nothing, and in the mean time, he hopes we will find a diamond, we’re going down the road of fundlop, heard all this when he signed, for every good one, that comes good, 100s more don’t, it is a risk, and for me it is not a good sign, this is the players we are looking at, are Northern national league and less.

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Lee has said in the Mail that although he has spoken to Moxon he wont be signing now but maybe in the close season. I guess we do seem to be sniffing around Pound Shops.

Is that when our Glorious Owner has sank us to the league of death. I fcking hope not, there is plenty of money coming into this club don't kill it.

Finally our fans are smelling the coffee.
Club been run like a corner shop.
Will be a few posters disgusted that CS has started a thread like this.
The ones who have fanny fits when a tad of criticism is aimed at the club.
Pay shit wages ya get shit employees.
Get the Egyptians in.

There’s your opportunity lads, empty your Piggy Bank and step up......or get a passing millionaire to pop in and take over.

We don't expect Raj to spend millions on players what we would like to see is the budget he said was available being spent, a NLN striker and a defender on loan no wonder Dave said see ya.

Bloody hell, we're getting hissy fits over possible signings now.
Has anyone seen this kid play???
When I read this thread I had never heard of this lad but instead of making any sort of judgement on him I rang a pal of mine who lives in Annan and asked him for his opinion.
Apparently he has had problems in the past but is now turning in really good performances and was described to me as "too good for this league" and "the best player in his league"
Now I am only relaying to you lot what I have been told so I do not know if he is good or shite or whatever but he is attracting attention and is out of contract in the summer.
Worth a punt????? I have no idea.

agent driven story for the gullible local media.....worthless.....try not to panic..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcZe2jJdgcU

Not really, it’s like my dog killing a rat, it’s what CS does, pure instinct,...... but in contrast, my terrier is good at what he does.
From what I’ve seen, the only ‘fanny fits’ are from the self appointed ‘financial advisors’ telling the club how it should be run.
I’m totally laid back, seen it all before, this is tame stuff.

Let’s not let facts get in the way of a good rant

The full story tells a story... but when people start commenting before getting ALL the facts it’s a problem...best to wait and read the signs at Annan before running through the quicksand, quite nasty there from personal experience.

The time to judge on what we spend in this window is Feb 1st, when we have the facts in front of us.
This defender we have on loan is highly thought of and is expected to progress in the game, so once again, what's the point of judgement on his effect on our season before we even see him.
The guy who you say said see ya signed Fondop and Fela on deals and Goodwin, and Parkhouse on loan. He also signed some cracking loans, all backed by Raj. He was also delighted to sign a three year contract backed by Raj and a month or so later a better deal, nearer to his home was offered and that's when he said see ya and that's why he said see ya.
Let's just wait and see where we are on Feb 1st and then we can all join in kicking Raj to death or perhaps not as the case may be.
This is Graeme Lee's very first transfer window in charge so it's only natural he is cautious. He wants to get it right.
So he's another judgement we will make on Feb 1st.

bollocks, and Kabamba has signed for Woking.

Yeah sure Dave signed those you mention above maybe just maybe that is all the budget and time he had would allow him to sign Fondop was on a short contract and i am sure Goodwin and Parkhouse will have come highly recommended just like the defender we have brought in on loan.
I hope come Feb Lee has got it right and proven all us doubters wrong. Lets also not forget the man who said see ya got us out of the National League.

Yeah he did get us out of the national league backed all the way by Raj.

Are we supposed to have a bid in for every available player in the window just to suit the ‘urges’ of every supporter.

Well I hope he backs Lee the same then.

And Mitchell joins Doncaster. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

6 out 2 in

Jus a couple of facts..

Perhaps there is no money available as the agreement made to ensure pools survival may contain clauses for any windfall payments eg cup runs,player sales, attendance monies over x ,000 etc etc to be initially used to pay off debts etc.
Given the predicament Pools was in it may have been the only option.

listening to radio tees and fail journalists ... to quote one....."numbers are looking thin on the ground"...ffs....you would think we were bloody struggling to field a team after the departures....obviously they have not even bothered to look at the bloated size of our squad ....even after the departures..the usual crap lazy local journalism at work yet again.....

killip, boyes, sterry, ogle, hendrie, liddle, odusina, byrne, hull, francis angol, ferguson,holohan,crawford, featherstone, smith, shelton, fela, cullen, molyneux, carver, cook.....total 21....with more to add next week...

No, numbers isn't the problem when you think about it. Perhaps its quality but they are sitting away from saying it.

aye, But what did dave ever do for us supporters

imp..."thinking about it"...not a strong point for some...is it?....oh...forgot ....and macdonald on season loan... 22 then as it stands.....

You tripped up at the first hurdle by quoting ‘fail journalists’, there are no Mail journalists, you’d be lucky if there’s one, the Mail is not the Mail it was.
Maybe Dave shouldn’t have went for numbers and used the money to get fewer, better players.

We will have to wait for sue Grey's verdict on the evidence of this lad before we sign him

Why all the 'shock horror'?

Raj Singh is a wealthy man but he's not mega rich. He always said publically that he would take over the club and cover the initial debts to keep it afloat. He never said he would bankroll it indefinitely. Add to that the care home sector have had a tough time the last few years and he's done all he can but now the club has to be self funding.

Sage sold the club on the basis that their money would be paid off over time by any unbudgeted income - cup runs etc. Also we're in a higher division but prize money won't have landed yet. So financially we're not much better off in terms of week to week operating cash although the debts will be reducing substantially.

Ultimately the football club has to run on gate income and commercial revenue. Graeme Lee has a budget to work too and it's probably up to its limit. Once sage are paid off that might well increase but until then it is what it is.

I still maintain that in the long run we would have been better going bust and phoenixing sticking two fingers up to Sage at the same time.

well said mr irrelevant......home truths that the mill house moaners on here would do well to recognise ...not that they ever will.....but assume your preference for ending up similar to darlo is tongue in cheek ?

No because it wouldn't have been that way. The huge difference is that we have a ground owned by the council.

yes mr i.......but what league would we have had to start in as a phoenix?

Eddie Kyle stated £2 million come into pools this season and knows about the debt.
But hes disappointed with the lack of investment back into the team.
Good pundit who always tells it how it is.
Anyone gunna slate him?

one pound fish man ?...just think .....where we would be without him....not at selhurst park in the 4th round... thats for sure.......

https://darlingtonfc.co.uk/news/darling ... investment
"Although social media can be a very useful tool, it can have very undesirable effects. I’m really not sure what the solution is as people who sit behind keyboards appear to be able to say anything without knowing the facts and not realising the potential impact in public of some ill-thought comments."

as for hignetts pal eddie..... mr hust himself....he should stick to punditry....never wastes an opportunity to have a dig does he...predictable and bored with him tbh...

I don't think anyones is expecting us to be paying some of the ridiculous wages being spent in the NL. But we have had lots of unexpected income this season, from a business point if view it makes sense to spend some of it seriously strengthening the team. As you are going to lose money if we get relegated again in next few seasons, plus losing a thousand home fans due to being served dross.

You have not got time for anyone who dares express concern about the club, despite those being perfectly reasonable. It's fucking weird.

concerns??....you mean the constant allegations and personal abuse from the likes of you and the rarf who started this thread.....as for "fucking weird"...are you looking in the mirror ??....but no need for swearing and foul language on here is there pal...sad but predictable..

I wouldnt care but you pop on every thread where people start discussing matters that might paint the club in a less than rosey glow and start dismissing and belittling. Theres kids in Primary school that know that any discussion, regardless of differing opinion, starts from a position of mutual respect. I respect your opinion (though its bafflingly polarised) though why you and your Snowy mate have to be such pricks about how you express it is puzzling indeed.

I would like to think that this is the old case of people being different online to what they would be like face to face over a pint but only you could tell me that.

Oh and now we are one down. New manager and new signings are working out well then.

"pricks"...more abuse....dont think i can take much more...."face to face"....are you threatening me......?

You can be a prick about something without being a prick but only you know which one applies to you. Try the caps on. See which fits.

Behave yourselves!!

Nice article in northern echo, raj asking for patience, the excuses are coming now, I wondered when they would start up, everyone's fault but the man behind it all. Looking at under 23s I wonder why? Can we not sign solid division 2 players anymore?

‘Mutual respect’...? You’ve had far more than you deserve from me, but as a one trick pony obsessed with the finances of the club you appear to suffer from the belief you are always right and can’t stand being challenged, you come across as a strange confection of resentment, conspiracy theory and self righteous outrage.
You’ve banged out the same old tosh since your hero left, but can produce no answers, in fact I don’t ever recall what your beef is, you just vaguely hint about....?
Read Mr I’s post above, the answers are there and he should know, if you still don’t get it, there’s no hope for you.

mr i....raj singh....a "one pound fishman"....abusive racially motivated commentary???..interested in your views....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKpeas_JVmk

Oldhams off field problems n Scunnys transfer embargo shud keep us up.
Sad but true.
Id say Eddie Kyles views 98.7% of our fans have the interlectual to agree with him.

You've had no respect for anyone who differs from your point of view. If you wish to start though it would be nice. The 'behave yourselves' advice would not even be needed if you did.

I agree Eddy Kyle gives excellent views when on radio obviously we all differ on something’s but I do get the feeling he is quite personal about Raj and there is something personal in it.

Nearly 5000 there again today incredible support, when is this support going to get the team we deserve? We are being run like a non league nobody club, that's got in the league on an off chance. This support is being taken for granted now, cup games are masking over huge problems. One or two quality players is needed in the next week. No more excuses, blaming ex managers, short summer, bit of action is called for can't pull the wool over most people's eyes for too long.

Ending up like Darlo ? Do they owe somebody some jaw-dropping amount of money then poolie1?

sussex.....darlo owing money?....i have no idea?....however.... suspect they have no money....and will never be a league club again....and will have a future playing part time football...in front of a few hundred fans....in a stadium that is little more than a field...."big games" being limited to spenny or shildon.... ..and relying on us for a favour or two with loans of unwanted players etc...

Really.....? I tend to not resort to referring to posters on here as ‘pricks’, I like to avoid abusive terms, so juvenile.
If having your view challenged on here, is regarded by you as disrespectful, you may need to wind down your sensitivity, far too delicate.

Still, we don't have a Clarence the Lion hanging over us eh poolie 1.

Didn't watch all of it but it looks like it's comparing one Asian to another. Where's the racism?