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 Post subject: Dave Jones
PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:23 pm 
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Can anyone see any difference in the way we play since he took over. I can.t rakxe banghead

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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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It's going to take more than a couple of months to make a difference at Pools. If he's still here next season I thing you will see one.

Going on about the manager again stpid


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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Who is going on about the manager again? It,s the first time I have mentioned him. stpid yawn1

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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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Not you it's a general theme for about the last 8 years.


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:24 pm 
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He clearly has to take some of the blame. He never makes a change when we are getting beat we are happy to amble to a narrow defeat. The first goal came from having Amond on the right wing whilst Oates went up front its stupidity to make the lad play out there.

Hawkins must be scratching his head wondering how he cant get on the pitch and I liked the time wasting sub brining Magnay on.


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:24 pm 
I think the formation is poor and leaves Amond looking for scraps but until the midfield is sorted we're stuck with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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I can't remember much 'shite' being thrown at Murray he wasn't manager for long enough. He shouldn't have ever got the job in the first place but the way he was treat and sacked was really poor, but the actual decision was right to sack him after the Blyth game. Chip you are coming across as someone with an agenda, and I respect you a lot and think you talk a lot of sense.

The club has been a mess for years, like a holiday camp jobs for the boy ect.. One of the best things I heard today was the players hate Dave Jones. Given the opportunity whatever level it's at I think he can change the mentality at the club.


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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yloop wrote:
I think the formation is poor and leaves Amond looking for scraps but until the midfield is sorted we're stuck with it.


That is it in a nutshell we can't play two upfront while our midfield is so poor. Woods and Featherstone came up miles short again today, in isolation they are both canny enough players but when you play against a team who are high tempo and fit they look hopeless. Featherstone looked a stone overweight today.


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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Bloody Hell ! Shows how much I know. I thought Featherstone was our best player today ! Thomas showing a bit more of his old spark & if his shot had gone in instead of hitting the post, it might have been a different result. The thing that really pisses me off is that you know if they'd had a shot that hit the post & came back out into the six yard box, they'd have had someone on the spot to stick the rebound in.
Thought we matched them for long periods but they had that little bit of class to win the game.
We need to win two games as soon as possible but I wouldn't like to guess where they're going to come from.


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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I've stuck for every single Pools manager for about the last six years, ultimately they haven't been the problem.

This bloke given time really could improve things his record with the shite he has been left with ilellavant. Sam Collins got sacked who has been at the club for 8 years, not one finish in the top half of the league in that period.

It's a clean sweep let's give it a bit of time.


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:42 pm 
Hartleblue wrote:
Who is going on about the manager again? It,s the first time I have mentioned him. stpid yawn1


Told you that you were over zealous :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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Chip Fireball wrote:
All I've done tonight is very briefly question the lack of activity from the dugout once we went 2-0 down. Don't understand why Oates was took off , who was at least competing when he went up front and grafting, and Amond who was completely anonymous again, was left on. Oates won more headers within 5 minutes of going up top than Amond had all game.


Jones had said that fatigue have played a big part in Oates injury and his thigh was bandaged up so I don't think he was ever going to play the full game.

As for Featherstone, I thought he was one of our better players today, he seemed to do a lot of clearing up in the right back position in the first half.

Individually we have some decent players but they aren't a team. Too many players are too similar and that just exposes their weaknesses. With Jones in charge I can't see that being the same at the start of next season


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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The Kit Kat Kid wrote:
Bloody Hell ! Shows how much I know. I thought Featherstone was our best player today ! Thomas showing a bit more of his old spark & if his shot had gone in instead of hitting the post, it might have been a different result. The thing that really pisses me off is that you know if they'd had a shot that hit the post & came back out into the six yard box, they'd have had someone on the spot to stick the rebound in.
Thought we matched them for long periods but they had that little bit of class to win the game.
We need to win two games as soon as possible but I wouldn't like to guess where they're going to come from.


They did hit the post in the second half & the rebound was blazed over the bar


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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I thought the whole point of these boards was "opinions " are we now saying as soon as someone has a different opinion to another it's suddenly an agenda rightly or wrongly members are allowed their opinion without fear of ridicule etc if not this would become a very dull board and pointless really rant over


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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Poolie_on_Tyne wrote:
The Kit Kat Kid wrote:
Bloody Hell ! Shows how much I know. I thought Featherstone was our best player today ! Thomas showing a bit more of his old spark & if his shot had gone in instead of hitting the post, it might have been a different result. The thing that really pisses me off is that you know if they'd had a shot that hit the post & came back out into the six yard box, they'd have had someone on the spot to stick the rebound in.
Thought we matched them for long periods but they had that little bit of class to win the game.
We need to win two games as soon as possible but I wouldn't like to guess where they're going to come from.


They did hit the post in the second half & the rebound was blazed over the bar


Yes he may have missed it but at least he was there. We seem to be playing with fear again. Donnolly was terrible. He was in acres of space and all the right side of the pitch was empty and thats where he should have ran with the ball but instead he turned back inside and gave the ball straight to one of their players and they scored a second that was game over.

And by the way I like Featherstone he always tries to find a player with a pass and won,t just lump the ball forward to get rid of it, we need a few more players like him who are composed on the ball.

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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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Donnelly must be carrying a knock he doesn't look fit to me and it's badly impacting on his performances he had a shocker yesterday. The second goal summed up the display him, Walker and then Featherstone all had chances to clear.


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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Football is a game of opinions and passion but there is one thing that puts it to bed and that's our league position. We are third bottom after 40 games and as they say the table does not lie.
The problem is we are weak at the back, in the middle and up front. Did anybody really think we would get anything on Saturday. Hope maybe but that is all.
You don't have to be a good footballer in this league (although it helps) but you do need players like Nobbs, Tupling, Ollsen, Baker just big whole hatred players to give you that bit of steel. (I don't include the likes of Tinklers and Tait because they were natural footballers who would get into any team on skill)
On the Featherstone front I can see the arguments from both sides. He is a very skilful player but at the same time he is slow and defensively weak. I do agree however he was probably m.o.m yesterday.


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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According to Eddie Kyle on Tees yesterday since his arrival he has a worse record then Hignett.
In Jones favour he did say it would take 18 months to sort out, let's hope it's in the Conference or whatever it's called now.


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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We all have different opinions how ever my team for pools at the moment would be.

Fryer Donnelly Bates Harrison Magnay Hawkins Walker Featherstone Alexandro Amond Thomas

I know the team above is subject to Injuries permitted how ever it is a team were we have experienced players playing in their correct positions which i believe we need at the moment.

So for me if Jones keeps playing players out of position we are and will be an unbalanced team.


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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Understand what you're getting at Poolie, but surely you can't deny Brad Walker has been our best player over the last 6 games, albeit he got his current position by default ? I certainly wouldn't change the central defence at present & certainly not for Bates ( though I agree he can look a decent player when he can be arsed ).


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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I agree with walker if we can take anything from this season it will be Walker in defence has been a plus point.
But look at the last 3 results 3 defeats and look at our midfield i just think i would rather be talking about Walker setting up or scoring goals.
We only have 6 games to go and saying walker is good in defence but we still get beat and now is the time we started thinking of scoring goals and winning games because i feel with the unbalance in the team at the moment it will be very close if we go down.
Will be at Morecambe on saturday and really this is a game we should and have to win.


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:17 pm 
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I thought the whole point of these boards was "opinions " are we now saying as soon as someone has a different opinion to another it's suddenly an agenda rightly or wrongly members are allowed their opinion without fear of ridicule etc if not this would become a very dull board and pointless really rant over


Well said!!!! :-D


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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Jones should of been kicking coxalls door down for a few decent players, when he arrived. He has gone into the last part of the season with a kamikaze squad. Hell bent on giving newport chance after chance. His record is poor and yesterday was unnacceptable even against a decent team.


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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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I've been to two games this season, at Donny and Blackpool and both games were similar.
Both 2-1 defeats to a late-ish goal. Lots of possession, lots of sideways passes( I notice Jones is now complaining about that). Too predictable in the build up, spurned chances, too many opposition crosses etc etc etc.
At Blackpool all three of us agreed that it was very very similar to the Donny game and that very little had changed. Some good football, some good spells of possession but very little cutting edge and a complete inability to cut out crosses.
Loads of possession has to have an end product. Whether it results in a goal or stops the opposition from equalising after we've taken the lead. There has got to be a purpose. I prefer a balance between the passing game and quick, decisive box to box passing. I'm not advocating hoofball but sometimes a ball over the top is the best option. At least vary it a bit.
I think Jones knows what he wants but I don't think he's got the right blend of players to achieve it. Here's hoping he can get us across the line safe and then have a serious rejection/recruitment drive in the summer, given that there is a genuine will at board level.

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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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I agree, the summer should be interesting if we survive. We are where we are, complaining about the mangers abilty is too late now. We just have to hope it works out in the end and you don't change the pilot as you come into land.

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 Post subject: Re: Dave Jones
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Fully agree with the OP as the results prove.
Judge Jones next season when he scatters the deadwood in June.
Then hope he gets the same budget as Higgy( biggest in the clubs history according to Coxhall) to bring in less quantity more quality players.
No ambitious predictions from me for next season.
What will be will be.


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