Relegation fight

Hartleblue · **Posted:** Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:01 pm

Again FFS! banghead

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Do give over, the league is really tight and not even a third of the season is over.

We're not far away from being a decent team for me and the failings we have can be put right. 2-0 up and cruising only to have a man sent off and penalty to go in sort of highlights how things have gone lately. Massively frustrating.

kebab & chips · **Posted:** Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:10 pm

How far though.We're miles away from being a decent team

Brian Clough · **Joined:** Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:39 pm **Posts:** 282

Pj take the blinkers off 3 wins in 18 games is relegation form .

Zippy · **Joined:** Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:37 am **Posts:** 265

PJPoolie wrote:

Do give over, the league is really tight and not even a third of the season is over.

We're not far away from being a decent team for me and the failings we have can be put right. 2-0 up and cruising only to have a man sent off and penalty to go in sort of highlights how things have gone lately. Massively frustrating.

We haven`t got time to dick about waiting for him to find a winning team, I thought he knew what he was doing but I am losing confidence in him.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

kebab & chips wrote:

How far though.We're miles away from being a decent team

Not that far.

There's nothing in the League, we've gone away to the top two in recent weeks and should have won both games but picked up one point. If you wanted our season and points tally so far in a nutshell there you have it.

The Townendcritic · **Joined:** Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:25 pm **Posts:** 74

We need an experienced CB in January if our two current sick notes aren't going to be available and a decent ball winner for midfield otherwise I can only see the situation continuing

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Magnay is a big miss, not because he was playing fantastically himself mainly because he's miles better than Richards and it frees up Donnelly to play in either of those two positions you mention. I agree with that though, we could really do with some CPR on Bates dead leg now. It's that dead it's starting to stink.

poolietim · **Posted:** Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:18 pm

Worrying thing is not just conceding goals it's how we are conceding them.

Soft goals that come in clusters. 3 in 10 mins today, 3 in 15 mins last week and 2 in quick time vs Carlisle.

Defensively we are all over. So what happens? We bring in 2 kids who'll play in the reserves while we have 2 crocks out injured.

The folly of bringing in 2 forwards on deadline day to play less than a half between them, when a proper holding midfielder and a central defender with experience without the injury proneness, was to anyone of us the clear priority.

I just don't know what is going on in Hignett's head.

He and his backroom team of central defenders and fullbacks spent the week analysing the crap defending of recent weeks to then produce that.

Decidedly average at best, incapable of making the change at worst

ElvisC · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:55 am **Posts:** 4504

I'm extremely concerned as this is shaping up to be an eighth (count em) poor season in a row. By poor, I mean battling at the wrong end of the league we are in. Granted, we ARE better than in previous seasons yet we are still a bottom four side. You do slide into a "Same shit, different season" mode very easily. They are all merging into one, sadly.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

Agree with elvisc.

Its easy to be negative but its also very easy to be complacent.

Its very difficult to get out of a slump.

And this had been a very long and large slump.

We are at that point in time now were of two things will happen.

Those moaning now wilk look like idiots.

Or

Those confident now will br moaning like biches and wishing they had done it earlier

Bit of a knife edge methinks.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37731

This afternoon I made the mistake of doing some work with my chop saw while listening to the Match on BBC Tees.
A toxic combination.

chunky1988 · **Joined:** Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:33 pm **Posts:** 1066

No mental strength in this squad.

Collapsing after goal conceded is too easy

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

Bloody hell. Just looked at the league table.

Isnt it a bit to flipant to be saying we are too goid to go down when we are only a point above the drop zone and we have played one third of the season.

Plenty of teams have been relegated deapite being too good.

It cant be too long in coming that someone at the club starts to panic.

poolietim · **Posted:** Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:56 pm

We lack leadership on the pitch.

Have done for a few years now. Coincidentally we've been shyte for a few years now. Except when we had a proper central defender (Mirfin) and a proper midfielder (Tshibola)
Funny how that happens

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2011 4:25 pm **Posts:** 4198

There's one major difference between this season and the last 5 or 6, and that's the number of goals Pools are scoring. They don't exactly score goals for fun (miss too many chances for that) but there is a genuine strike threat in Thomas, Amond and Allesandra.

But these feckin' sendings off!!! How many is that - 4 or 5 in less than 20 competitive games? Hignett should tell them the next player to get sent off will be fined a month's wages, and the one after that 6 weeks wages. Chucked away 3 points, not 1, today.

The defence - minus Magnay and Bates through injury (and Invisible Jones if you want to count him) - isn't up to snuff, but it's a damned sight better 11 against 11 than 10 against 11.

It's a young team making too many mistakes at the minute, but like PJ, I still think we'll be alright. We could even go on a decent unbeaten run - but only when the stupidity is cut out and the defence is strengthened.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4470

PJPoolie wrote:

Do give over, the league is really tight and not even a third of the season is over.

We're not far away from being a decent team for me and the failings we have can be put right. 2-0 up and cruising only to have a man sent off and penalty to go in sort of highlights how things have gone lately. Massively frustrating.

Are you a wind up we have won 4 games in 25, havent won at home since march/april time. Where is this decent team? Maybe your getting mixed up with plymouth maybe.

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2011 4:25 pm **Posts:** 4198

Chip Fireball wrote:

Adam Jackson wasn't an experienced defender, neither was Christian Burgess, nor for that matter Jack Baldwin.

As I said the last time I posted on here about 6 weeks ago, you need good defenders who can play a lot of games. Like the above.

Hignett has made the basic mistake of having centre halves who are either injured regularly or distinctly average, or in the case of 3 of ours, both. Keeping on Bates was just about forgivable, giving contracts to Jones and Harrison was borderline lunacy.

As for people banging on about Magnay, he has been bobbins whenever I have seen him this season. He may have scored 2 goals at Crewe, but defensively he was horrendous, and he's no more a League Two centre half than I am.

I don't think we will go down ( though any long term injury to Thomas would be a worry ) but that defence is fucking shocking .

As for this place, win, lose or draw, once upon a time you used to be able to get a decent debate going regarding the team and individual performances. People making informed comment, analysing things, talking rationally.

Now its largely inhabited by fuckwits who struggle to string six words together. Most of whom only login after we get beat.

Not sure what's more depressing.

Easy solution - come back on here more regularly. I think the only regular poster about Pools from the last year or so who's missing might be you

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

For the record I didn't 'bang on about Magnay' I was the only one who mentioned him I actually said its not that he's actually played well this season it would just mean Donnelly who looks a cracking player wouldn't have to play right back.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4470

Like chip said keeping on harrison was a joke. Unfortunately its set the tone for yet another disastorous season. Surely though a decent manager can get this team getting better results. Will pull chip up on one thing he slates people for coming on after a defeat. He has done the same himself tonight, if people didnt post then message boards will be a thing of the past. Whether people post after wins or losses who cares as long as people can get things of their chest about pools who cares.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7567

TBH afterafter last Saturdays defeat against Orient I would say we are no better than we were under Colin Cooper, different players apart from the midfield but still s**** !

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Not a chance we will go down.

Typical over reaction as usual.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:35 pm

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Whether people post after wins or losses who cares as long as people can get things of their chest about pools who cares.

there's coming on here to vent then there's coming on here to wind people up posting utter tripe like some do. Clear difference in my view.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4470

Yeah the odd one do but in general people are more likely to come on after a defeat. Less things to say when you win really. Nowt to complain about. We have been shite for 7 years or so think its about time we were given something to shout about. Down to hignett and the chairman to do something about the negativity.

Brian Clough · **Joined:** Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:39 pm **Posts:** 282

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Yeah the odd one do but in general people are more likely to come on after a defeat. Less things to say when you win really. Nowt to complain about. We have been shite for 7 years or so think its about time we were given something to shout about. Down to hignett and the chairman to do something about the negativity.

Bang on Ken

johnjo · **Joined:** Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:57 pm **Posts:** 321

We have just played two of the poorest teams in the league and lost both. Concerned yes.
It seems whenever the opposition have a couple of big forwards they frighten to death our defenders. We have one big defender the trouble is he can't jump.

Smokin Joe · **Joined:** Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:13 pm **Posts:** 1134

Lots of the usual idle rhetoric blind optimism on here from the usual suspects but the bottom line is that on current form we are going down. I for one am far from convinced that Hignett and his inept sidekick are capable of stopping the rot.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Smokin Joe wrote:

Lots of the usual idle rhetoric blind optimism on here from the usual suspects but the bottom line is that on current form we are going down. I for one am far from convinced that Hignett and his inept sidekick are capable of stopping the rot.

Where is the optimism?

You are one of the usual suspects, clearly with an agenda against the forum itself.

Tedious.

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad · **Posted:** Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:06 pm

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Like chip said keeping on harrison was a joke. Unfortunately its set the tone for yet another disastorous season. Surely though a decent manager can get this team getting better results. Will pull chip up on one thing he slates people for coming on after a defeat. He has done the same himself tonight, if people didnt post then message boards will be a thing of the past. Whether people post after wins or losses who cares as long as people can get things of their chest about pools who cares.

Exactly, can't understand the few on here who constantly whinge about those who come on here complaining, if you don't like what they have to say just ignore them, but please don't spend page after page persistently moaning about it. It's diverting from the real problem, the team and it's obvious deficiencies.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Like chip said keeping on harrison was a joke. Unfortunately its set the tone for yet another disastorous season. Surely though a decent manager can get this team getting better results. Will pull chip up on one thing he slates people for coming on after a defeat. He has done the same himself tonight, if people didnt post then message boards will be a thing of the past. Whether people post after wins or losses who cares as long as people can get things of their chest about pools who cares.

Exactly, can't understand the few on here who constantly whinge about those who come on here complaining, if you don't like what they have to say just ignore them, but please don't spend page after page persistently moaning about it. It's diverting from the real problem, the team and it's obvious deficiencies.

FFS can you not read? Nobody is complaining about people venting and giving considered opinions about the team and manager, I started a thread myself titled 'Fucking garbage Hignett' from the match itself only 7 days ago. It's just a few tonight's comments are aimed at, mainly one who is a childish t roll.

This place used to be worth reading, especially when things were going wrong. now..................

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad · **Posted:** Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:47 pm

PJPoolie wrote:

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Like chip said keeping on harrison was a joke. Unfortunately its set the tone for yet another disastorous season. Surely though a decent manager can get this team getting better results. Will pull chip up on one thing he slates people for coming on after a defeat. He has done the same himself tonight, if people didnt post then message boards will be a thing of the past. Whether people post after wins or losses who cares as long as people can get things of their chest about pools who cares.

Exactly, can't understand the few on here who constantly whinge about those who come on here complaining, if you don't like what they have to say just ignore them, but please don't spend page after page persistently moaning about it. It's diverting from the real problem, the team and it's obvious deficiencies.

FFS can you not read? Nobody is complaining about people venting and giving considered opinions about the team and manager, I started a thread myself titled 'Fucking garbage Hignett' from the match itself only 7 days ago. It's just a few tonight's comments are aimed at, mainly one who is a childish t roll.

This place used to be worth reading, especially when things were going wrong. now..................

Can you not give it a rest, your like a broken record.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

If I was Piers Morgan I'd reply *you're

But I'll go with eh what the fook are you taking about....

Minton · **Joined:** Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:53 pm **Posts:** 89

As already mentioned I think it's a lack of experience on the pitch, especially in midfield and centre half. The squad has definitely improved over the last couple of seasons but we can't seem to ever make progress and move forward. Like already mentioned, Mirfin was definitely a calibre of player we needed but it didn't end up a permmenet move and now he's playing regularly at the top of league one. No wonder he didn't want to come. Even the likes of Jackson and Burgess wouldn't come here because they had much better offers elsewhere.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37731

Brian Clough wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Yeah the odd one do but in general people are more likely to come on after a defeat. Less things to say when you win really. Nowt to complain about. We have been shite for 7 years or so think its about time we were given something to shout about. Down to hignett and the chairman to do something about the negativity.

Bang on Ken

A vote of confidence from you is hardly something to shout about.

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad · **Posted:** Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:40 am

It's nothing that a couple of million to spend wouldn't sort, unfortunately we haven't got it. We're bleeding good wages on long term sick which a club of our standing just can't afford.

Zippy · **Joined:** Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:37 am **Posts:** 265

From what I observe from watching home and away games is rather than a lack of skill, it is lack of vision and a calmness to deal with the onslaught when we are getting pummelled.
Mirfin, Burgess, Jackson and Baldwin had a footballing brain and you could see they readthe play, unfortunately Toto and Harrison don`t seem to possess that and panic when we under the cosh.
Bates has it but has picked up too many injuries, Jones has no pace left and is prone to injury and takes a season to recover from strains, Hignett needs to manage how we handle that.

henry · **Joined:** Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:22 pm **Posts:** 127

Chip Fireball wrote:

Adam Jackson wasn't an experienced defender, neither was Christian Burgess, nor for that matter Jack Baldwin.

As I said the last time I posted on here about 6 weeks ago, you need good defenders who can play a lot of games. Like the above.

Hignett has made the basic mistake of having centre halves who are either injured regularly or distinctly average, or in the case of 3 of ours, both. Keeping on Bates was just about forgivable, giving contracts to Jones and Harrison was borderline lunacy.

As for people banging on about Magnay, he has been bobbins whenever I have seen him this season. He may have scored 2 goals at Crewe, but defensively he was horrendous, and he's no more a League Two centre half than I am.

I don't think we will go down ( though any long term injury to Thomas would be a worry ) but that defence is fucking shocking .

As for this place, win, lose or draw, once upon a time you used to be able to get a decent debate going regarding the team and individual performances. People making informed comment, analysing things, talking rationally.

Now its largely inhabited by fuckwits who struggle to string six words together. Most of whom only login after we get beat.

Not sure what's more depressing.

Guilty of what you accuse other people of, you only come on the board to whinge when we lose

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:01 pm

Valiant wrote:

Go back a few years and the angry brigade could at least construct an argument or did it with some humour. The likes of Birthmark , Parmo, Grave, Derwent etc were worth reading even when they were sticking the boot in. You also had good posters putting across a counter argument.

This latest crop of posters are clearly either Darlo fans or people who like Chip said can't be bothered to string more than a few words together.

This board used to boast about being rarf free and was a much better board for it. It was also a lot funnier. People taking themselves far too seriously.

Need a few more like Shilts posting on here that can put together something worth reading and a cull of the social media idiots.

amen to that brother Valiant

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

Right. Completely agree with the sentiment but who are you blaming for it?

If those people arent posting thats their fault isnt it?

I find it bizarre just how many people blame "the bunker" when the bunker isnt a human. People seem to think the bunker has views and gives opinions.

The bunker is only as good as the people that post. If you arent happy then blame those dont post.

The bunker hasnt changed one bit. Its exactly the same as it was ten years ago.

Its just a thing. Stop blaming it for thw inactions or actions of people.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

And be really honest eh? There are some very intelligent and articulate people complaining about the bunker right now.

Just makes them seem not that intelligent when you consider its those people causing the demise due to them not posting.

They are complaining about themselves.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

I should have added:

And post more yourselves. Instead of just complaining.

Its such a simple solution to end the problem. Cant believe I needed to point it out.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37731

Constructive criticism is always welcome, but the knee jerk 'told you so' whinging and abuse brings nothing to the board, just chuntering of the knee jerkers.
Trouble is after the first sentence you stop reading.

CJpoolie · **Joined:** Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:21 pm **Posts:** 62

misterb2001 wrote:

Valiant wrote:

Go back a few years and the angry brigade could at least construct an argument or did it with some humour. The likes of Birthmark , Parmo, Grave, Derwent etc were worth reading even when they were sticking the boot in. You also had good posters putting across a counter argument.

This latest crop of posters are clearly either Darlo fans or people who like Chip said can't be bothered to string more than a few words together.

This board used to boast about being rarf free and was a much better board for it. It was also a lot funnier. People taking themselves far too seriously.

Need a few more like Shilts posting on here that can put together something worth reading and a cull of the social media idiots.

amen to that brother Valiant

I am new to this board but been watching for a few years, I am missing monkeybutts and that one from Sussex, think he was a Darlo fan, he wound up a few, specialsally that PJ, was funny.

Will be coming over this week to catch my first game, my pappa was a pools fan, must be being in the bloods!

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Not even monkeybutts liked monkeybutt so you're on your own there! As for Sussex, he was just a wind up merchant but people couldn't understand why he kept coming on a Pools board despite his own club going bust years before. I thought of it as like a care in the community type issue and trollerated(c) him.

CJpoolie · **Joined:** Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:21 pm **Posts:** 62

pooliecrab wrote:

Not even monkeybutts liked monkeybutt so you're on your own there! As for Sussex, he was just a wind up merchant but people couldn't understand why he kept coming on a Pools board despite his own club going bust years before. I thought of it as like a care in the community type issue and trollerated(c) him.

It was appealing to my senses of humour, when you are living in a small village where nothing happens but an occasion runaway pig, it is keeping going.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Why are you talking like a meerkat?

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Snowys got it right there. The I told you so brigade is louder than the make sense brigade so after a game it's starting to resemble the Facebook page.

I can only speak for myself but after years of being shite it got hard to come on here n discuss it over n over so just went home, had a look, checked Twitter n lost a bit more hope.

If we can start getting some home wins on the board I reckon the good post match posters would return.

Also the general banter threads have been quiet strong this summer I've not felt the need to argue over footy when we have chicken kebabs to talk about

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The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

This poster appears soon after monkeybutt left us and tells us he liked his posts.

Too many coincidences there like.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 9740

The GHOST off Monkeybutt.

born toulouse · **Posted:** Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:19 am

The skidmark of Monkeybutt?

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