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Can't fault this article at all

You can bring this back to chips point again from the bingham thread (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=56347)

We are reliant on clubs borrowing us players, we're begging for players as the owners wont spend a bloody penny on players.

I think more than anything this for me reflects badly on us, we're like the eddy lee of the footballing world, asking very nicely for a borrow then kicking off when people wont lend us any players for bugger all.

A good read. He always tells it like it is.

After our display on Saturday I would question why he is sending out Lewis Hawkins on loan.
Surely he is worth a game for us, pick any one from Harewood, Morgan, Franks and Compton to leave out.

Maybe cos Hawkins isnt a striker or a winger.

Absolute shocking quote u knob the lads dead so shape up

It wasnt a quote it was a comparison that we are just beggers going around league clubs trying to borrow youth players.

Havent said anything bad about him.

Watch the language.

Here's a novel idea. You take off an ineffective striker or winger and you put in a extra midfielder. What do you think about that?

Brilliant

An extra midfielder will make us score more goals

We need a goal scorer in. Preferably with pace.

Maybe if the club offered a % of the wages they might be more successful than getting unwanted target men from Plymouth. Just a thought like

Marvellous idea, a goal scorer with pace, I can't believe no one has thought of that.
Fucking genius.

I think he does have a good point about these academies and under 21 leagues though. It would boil my piss as a manager or chairman of a Premier League club that I was paying people fortunes if they couldn't get in the first team and they could only play reserve football on an infrequent basis due to only being allowed three over age players.

Surely a better grounding for the kids would be for it to be harder for them to get in the reserves in the first place then when they do actually play against senior pros and Internationals not just other kids.

He's already said that if he can't get what he wants (ie an experienced striker) he'll resort to youth.

Our own kids, if last night was anything to go by, would not improve us. None of them are anywhere near a Tshibola for example.

Seems to me you've made your mind up about Moore.

I'm sure it's a million times easier to sell the club when in mid table compared to being rock bottom and almost nailed on for the drop.

Also I reckon Tshibola was every bit as good as most of last seasons loan signings and Bingham was good as well.

Cooper had some good contacts at mainly one club which he used to get some good players in. To be fair from what I've heard that's what Cooper was an acedemy manager it's were his contacts were and what his coaching style was like. Not sure that style of football is ever going to be successful in League Two.

Ronnie Moore didn't have a chance. The damage was done long before he joined the club.

The damage was probably done before Colin Cooper got the job, the way the club has been ran for 5 or 6 years meant this season was coming sooner or later.

It would have been interesting to see at what point Cooper would have been actually sacked. I doubt he actually would have been by his pal Russ.

I blame Stevie Statue, all that money bleached out on a bloke who did the best impression of a bedroom wardrobe on a football pitch for 18 month's. Harewood's currently doing his impression of a matching dressing table.

It may well have been too big a job for even moore but that doesnt excuse him for giving us a forward line like this.

Its silly.

lol, what an arrogant man you are.

You know the square root of fuck about what makes a quality footballer is a statement coming from a man who thinks Darren Holden deserves to play in the first team.

Laughable bullshit spouted by a man who a) is blinkered to any view that deviates even marginally from his own and b) no doubt has his own wankfest from posting complete drivel on this (and others?) forum

Thankfully, people who think as you do are in the minority in the World.

Oh I dont know.

Remember shilts. You said that no player was good enough to get in the first team now.

Yet the first team is pretty shit. So how bad does thay make the ressies amd youth team. I would have thought our much talked about youth system would have produced something by now.

Its all very silly.

There are ways and means of debating a point and/or disagreeing.

You just incite arguments and have done with numerous people on here.

You have absolutely no ability to converse with people who have a different view to your own without it being dragged down to your level and involve some form of abuse.

You really need to grow up.

Aye that's why I said most, Williams was way too good to be playing in division four.

The words you use incite. You're a wind up merchant.

I don't play any more, too old and knees are fucked.

And yes, when I played with pissed up tossers on a Sunday, there was playground banter.

The better the level played, the fewer fuckwits I encountered. And I didn't play at any kind of level to be honest.

Not that that makes the blindest bit of difference to having a view about football/players/managers.

Does the number of people you've had run ins with on here not make you even slightly consider that you cross the line with the words you use?

Monty Python hasn't aged well, has it?

We had a young striker here on loan from a bigger club earlier in the season, Charlie Wyke. He fucked off because another club was willing to sign him. A club near the foot of our division.

It will all come out in time the reason why.

lol, for the love of God. That's right, stir it up, get a response and then step back holding your hands up with 'I haven't started this, you're the unreasonable one'

Let's have a look at this thread then:

You: We had a young striker here on loan from a bigger club earlier in the season, Charlie Wyke. He fucked off because another club was willing to sign him. A club near the foot of our division.

I also dont understand Moore at all really. It's not long ago he was saying untried kids from the big clubs were no use in a relegation battle, and he wanted experienced players who were used to the rough and tumble. Now hes signed some experienced players he seems to be wanting kids again.

As Klinger says, we have our own kids who could probably do a better job than some of the shite playing in the first team at present.

Me: He's already said that if he can't get what he wants (ie an experienced striker) he'll resort to youth.

Our own kids, if last night was anything to go by, would not improve us. None of them are anywhere near a Tshibola for example.

Seems to me you've made your mind up about Moore.

- all ok so far as as I'm concerned. You passed comment about Moore which I replied to (re: kids/experience), you also mentioned our youth being potentially better than the first team and as I'd watched them the other day felt it would be useful if I gave an opinion on them. My comment re: making your mind up about Moore relates to this and other threads where you appear to have already decided he's maybe not so great.

You: To be fair Shilts, as far as I'm concerned, your opinion as to what constitutes a footballer is worth the square root of fuck all, so I will pass on your summary of last night if its all the same.

Unlike some who decided the minute he walked through the door he was going to do an excellent job, I havent made my mind up about Moore. I think it was right to appoint an experienced manager, but I'm not going to join in the general wankfest simply because he has won 3 games out of a possible eleven.

A lot of what he has said since he came seems to be more driven by a desire to grab headlines than anything else. Im also not sure why he's having another pop at Harewood and Morgan given he signed one of them and he picked the other, while hes twice dropped players that scored in their previous outing.

He's done some good things as manager, he's also done some seriously fucking bizzarre things.

We managed to get some very good young players in on loan last season. Perhaps Cooper did a better job of selling the club ?

- the first part in bold is going to wind most people up is it not? And it is THAT kind of statement that kills reasonable conversation. Why you think it's ok to completely disrespect another's opinion is beyond me. Who exactly made you the oracle of all things involving football? (hence the arrogant comment I made after). Note how your tone changed to one of the victim once you'd got me biting.

Congratulations.

Works for me chip, the feelings are mutual.

I suggest you look up the meaning of patronising before using the word by the way.

As far as I'm concerned you are a lost cause and as such will not be responding to anything you post on here again.

Hallelujah.

Your bound by fate to both get stuck in a lift together now.....

Chip....Shilts makes some very valid points there....sometimes you do come across as your point is final no matter what which is fair enough it's your opinion....but it's the way you come across on here whilst doing it!!!!

Got to agree chips is a patronising fucker the way he talks to people is shocking . Just a total arrogant man.

It's because he is a rock star and introduced all decent music to London in the 90's when he wasa DJ

I love Moore. Class act. Tells it how it is.

Whats this? Pick on chip night?

We need a special night to do that?