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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:47 pm 
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Who's watching tonight?

Should be great. :grin:


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The wife and I will be watching, I'll have a nice bottle of Rioja on the go too. Should be fun.

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 Post subject: Re: Election debate
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Certainly can't see a bunch of lying tossers being great entertainment. sctatchinghead

This is too true to be funny.

The next time you hear a politician use the
word 'billion' in a casual manner, think about
Whether you want the 'politicians' spending
YOUR tax money.


A billion is a difficult number to comprehend,
But one advertising agency did a good job of
putting that figure into some perspective in
One of it's releases.

A.
A billion seconds ago it was 1959.

B.
A billion minutes ago Jesus was alive.

C.
A billion hours ago our ancestors were
living in the Stone Age.

D.
A billion days ago no-one walked on the earth on two feet.

E.
A billion Pounds ago was only
13 hours and 12 minutes,
At the rate our government
Is spending it.


Stamp Duty
Tobacco Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Income Tax

Council Tax
Unemployment Tax
Fishing License Tax
Petrol/Diesel Tax
Inheritance Tax
(tax on top of tax)

Road Tax
Alcohol Tax
V.A.T.
Marriage License Tax
Property Tax
Service charge taxes
Social Security Tax
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Workers Compensation Tax
STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?

Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago...
and our nation was one of the most prosperous in the world.

We had absolutely no national debt...
We had the largest middle class in the world...
and Mum stayed home to raise the kids.

What happened?
Can you spell 'POLITICIANS!'

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 Post subject: Re: Election debate
PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:25 pm 
Yeah but we had Rickets an 100 years ago!!!! :coool:


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There's been so much build-up to this lately, I hope it doesn't let us down.


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There's been so much build-up to this lately, I hope it doesn't let us down.


Course not. when have poiticians ever let us down. sctatchinghead

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 Post subject: Re: Election debate
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There's been so much build-up to this lately, I hope it doesn't let us down.


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Poolie of Kent wrote:
There's been so much build-up to this lately, I hope it doesn't let us down.


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Can't see your picture, or anyones avatars. What's Mr.I done to the thingummyjig whatnot. sctatchinghead



















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Sorry POK,theres Darts on Sky Sports so I cant fit politics in tonight.

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Sorry POK,theres Darts on Sky Sports so I cant fit politics in tonight.



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POK is this your first vote?

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I voted in the 2009 European Elections in June.

That was when Labour got its worst result since World War II.

This will be my first General Election.


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 Post subject: Re: Election debate
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so who are you voting for?

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 Post subject: Re: Election debate
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At the moment, I'm thinking Labour. I think we shouldn't judge a book by its cover. Gordon Brown may seem grumpy, but underneath he is a very smart man. This country has changed overwhelmingly for the better over the last 13 years.

I don't buy the opinion from Cameron that this country is broken. I think he's talking rubbish. I think he is trying to be all style, when he knows really he doesn't have it. I think he's just getting on the "hope" and "change" bandwagon after President Obama's election. His manifesto is very thin in terms of policies.

I need to see something from the rest of the campaign to tell me otherwise, but I don't see it coming.


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Well POK.
Let's hope the rest of the country aren't taken in by Camerons bullshit:)

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Poolie of Kent wrote:
At the moment, I'm thinking Labour. I think we shouldn't judge a book by its cover. Gordon Brown may seem grumpy, but underneath he is a very smart man. This country has changed overwhelmingly for the better over the last 13 years.

I don't buy the opinion from Cameron that this country is broken. I think he's talking rubbish. I think he is trying to be all style, when he knows really he doesn't have it. I think he's just getting on the "hope" and "change" bandwagon after President Obama's election. His manifesto is very thin in terms of policies.

I need to see something from the rest of the campaign to tell me otherwise, but I don't see it coming.


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Well POK.
Let's hope the rest of the country aren't taken in by Camerons bullshit:)



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Some of the polls might say Cameron has a considerable lead, but at the end of the day, the only poll you can trust will be the one on May 6th.

This is gonna be tight, very tight.

Hopefully, people in this country will make their own minds up and take what the leaders' tell them with a pinch of salt.


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Some of the polls might say Cameron has a considerable lead, but at the end of the day, the only poll you can trust will be the one on May 6th.

This is gonna be tight, very tight.


It's gonna be as tight as a prossie's wanger.

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Poolie of Kent wrote:
This is gonna be tight, very tight.


Like a mouses ear

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 Post subject: Re: Election debate
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Some of the polls might say Cameron has a considerable lead, but at the end of the day, the only poll you can trust will be the one on May 6th.

This is gonna be tight, very tight.


It's gonna be as tight as a prossie's wanger.



I bet you it isnt

£20?

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Cameron is a bigger 'lovely lovely person' then John Major and has all the charm of a mass grave


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Cameron is a bigger silly boy then John Major and has all the charm of an mass grave




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Poolie of Kent wrote:
Some of the polls might say Cameron has a considerable lead, but at the end of the day, the only poll you can trust will be the one on May 6th.

This is gonna be tight, very tight.


It's gonna be as tight as a prossie's wanger.



I bet you it isnt

£20?



I'll bet you a pre-match pint that the Conservatives get a majority without any of this hung parliament shit.

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Good job you dont live in Barking POK you head would be all over the place of who to vote for.

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Some time tonight Cameron will say "Labour cant do this" or "Labour cant do that"

What he won't say is what the "Conservatives will do"

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Some time tonight Cameron will say "Labour cant do this" or "Labour cant do that"

What he won't say is what the "Conservatives will do"


Yes he wil ad yes he will.

That said I'm not voting for either, I was impressed by Nick Clegg yesterday so thats confirmed my vote goes to the Liberals.


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Some time tonight Cameron will say "Labour cant do this" or "Labour cant do that"

What he won't say is what the "Conservatives will do"


Yes he wil ad yes he will.

That said I'm not voting for either, I was impressed by Nick Clegg yesterday so thats confirmed my vote goes to the Liberals.


That's ruined what could have been a lively debate between us 2 for the next few weeks.

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As I say, if Labour do win it will be by a small majority.


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Bet them canvassers can't wait to get away from your doorstep pok.. :laugh:


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As I say, if Labour do win it will be by a small majority.


Mr Kent, if Labour get ANY majority I'll personally pay your travel to come up to Hartlepool for a home game and stop over at your cousins house, I'll even buy your match ticket and a few beers before and after the match.

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As I say, if Labour do win it will be by a small majority.


Mr Kent, if Labour get ANY majority I'll personally pay your travel to come up to Hartlepool for a home game and stop over at your cousins house, I'll even buy your match ticket and a few beers before and after the match.


Can we hold you to that

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Bet them canvassers can't wait to get away from your doorstep pok.. :laugh:


Well, it's only a small thing like the future of the country at stake.

Nothing too important, is it? :roll: :laugh:


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Yeah but we had Rickets an 100 years ago!!!! :coool:


Isn't he still playing. sctatchinghead


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As I say, if Labour do win it will be by a small majority.


Mr Kent, if Labour get ANY majority I'll personally pay your travel to come up to Hartlepool for a home game and stop over at your cousins house, I'll even buy your match ticket and a few beers before and after the match.


Can we hold you to that


Yep, provided that it is in it's entirety as stated above.

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I'd rather de-louse my pubes than watch this debate.


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Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago...
and our nation was one of the most prosperous in the world.

We had absolutely no national debt...


We've had a National Debt since the late 17th century, when the government of the day borrowed £1.2 million to pay for a war.

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This country has changed overwhelmingly for the better over the last 13 years.


Would it be rude to ask how, when the first eight years of that period were when you were between 6 and 14? Tony Blair didn't stop you shitting your pants or playing out too long when you needed a wee, that was your Mum. Gordon Brown didn't build your first woody, that was Old Ma Nature?? David Gold (Birmingham and West Ham), made that pornography, and the Jews do television.

So, clue me in on New Labour??

Where does 2 wars, stealth tax, surveillance, 30,000 new offences, a 100% council tax rise, bent peers, police brutality, the Lisbon treaty, seventeen new IT projects costing a total of 123 BILLION pounds that never came to fruition and have since been abandoned and knife crime fit in on that?? sctatchinghead

Plus PFI.

Eh??

Eh?? :roll:

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This country has changed overwhelmingly for the better over the last 13 years.


Would it be rude to ask how, when the first eight years of that period were when you were between 6 and 14? Tony Blair didn't stop you shitting your pants or playing out too long when you needed a wee, that was your Mum. Gordon Brown didn't build your first woody, that was Old Ma Nature?? David Gold (Birmingham and West Ham), made that pornography, and the Jews do television.

So, clue me in on New Labour??

Where does 2 wars, stealth tax, surveillance, 30,000 new offences, a 100% council tax rise, bent peers, police brutality, the Lisbon treaty, seventeen new IT projects costing a total of 123 BILLION pounds that never came to fruition and have since been abandoned and knife crime fit in on that?? sctatchinghead

Plus PFI.

Eh??

Eh?? :roll:

Doesn't know he's born. :roll:

Well POK is right of course..............instead of proving him right..............why not just agree.
eh?????
eh??????
eh???????

saves time.................you know it makes sense. :wink:

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This country has changed overwhelmingly for the better over the last 13 years.


bent peers, police brutality,



Dear fooking Lord, I mean we never had those under the Eton Boys and Gals did we?

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Clegg is pissing it - but no doubt we will end up with mr wright again.


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My first impression was that Cameron didn't get a look in tonight. Cameron didn't manage to establish himself in the first hour.

I thought Gordon Brown was smart and masterful and even attacked David Cameron with a great-one liner about airbrushing policies.

I thought Nick Clegg did well tonight. I liked how he tried to connect with the voters, but I'm astonished as how well Clegg has done tonight.

My 1-2-3 was:

1. Brown
2. Clegg
and by a distance..
3. Cameron

The Sun's poll gave victory to Nick Clegg.

ITV's poll: Clegg 38%, Cameron 28%, Brown 26%.

Sky News's Leaders Poll at 2130 BST: Cameron 41%, Clegg 32 %, Brown 27% - I thought that poll was astonishing.

Yet Sky News' poll after the debate: Clegg 37%, Brown 32%, Cameron 31%.
All 3 leaders close, but it seems Clegg was clearly more popular with a lot of people.

It seems I agreed with those waching Sky News after the debate finish that they thought Cameron had a poor performance


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Results of the Sun poll:
Clegg 51% - WOW!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:52 pm 
Clegg pissed it, simply by acting like a reasonable human being.

Brown "agrees with Nick" and Cameron didn't appear to have any policies apart from shitting ourselves from Iran and China.

Brown's mentioning of the Xfactor was cringeworthy and was contrived enough to have the complete opposite effect of what he intended.


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I agree with you. Thinking about it more, I'm not surprised in one sense Clegg did well with the public because he seemed the more modern of the three and tried to engage more with the questioners.

I liked how he mentioned people's names as he spoke, that's what the others did as well. He spoke with honesty. He spoke directly into the camera as if he wanted to speak directly to the viewers at home.

I think it showed that Cameron was out of touch when he said that he wanted to keep a nuclear deterrent.

I thought Brown mentioned the X Factor to make the link between how politics was becoming more affected by reality television shows etc.


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I liked how he mentioned people's names as he spoke, that's what the others did as well. sctatchinghead

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Well as soon as they recognised Clegg was doing it, Brown and Cameron did it later on.


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What a load of bollocks, all this sky-poll, itv poll, for christs sake Sun-poll, a tabloid thats only read by morons (in 5 mins) and page 3 perv's. I mean this is a paper that bores you to death with uninteresting tripe about gormless soap stars, and has 4 full pages advertising unlicensed loan sharks.

I'm gonna take a massive amount of notice of that.

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No I know what you're trying to say. Unfortunately, the reason why Cameron did better in the poll than Brown may have been that the Sun did back the Tories after Gordon Brown's speech at the Labour Conference, which I couldn't believe that they did that.

Although Sun readers did show in the poll that they thought Nick Clegg did well in the poll tonight.

The reason some people think a poll of Sun readers is important is the parties know in the last few General Elections, the Sun has supported the party that has more often than not gone on to win the election. It's interesting therefore that the newspaper itself has backed the Tories for the election but Nick Clegg won the debate here with viewers, which shows thankfully that the Sun readers don't just read what they are told and that they do seem to have a mind of their own.

It was the Sun that the backed the Tories in 1992 when they unexpectedly won after they printed the famous headline:
"If Neil Kinnock wins, will the last person in Britain please turn off the lights."

After the Tories won, they printed the headline:
"It's the Sun wot won it!"

So after that, there are some people who believe the Sun is an important endorsement for political parties to have going to elections in the future.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:42 pm 
Poolie of Kent wrote:
I agree with you. Thinking about it more, I'm not surprised in one sense Clegg did well with the public because he seemed the more modern of the three and tried to engage more with the questioners.

I liked how he mentioned people's names as he spoke, that's what the others did as well. He spoke with honesty. He spoke directly into the camera as if he wanted to speak directly to the viewers at home.

I think it showed that Cameron was out of touch when he said that he wanted to keep a nuclear deterrent.

I thought Brown mentioned the X Factor to make the link between how politics was becoming more affected by reality television shows etc.


What a load of Bollox that Post was POK!!!! rolfl

Do you read them back over before pressing 'Submit'???? sctatchinghead

I think you better start doing so!!!! :laugh: rolfl :laugh:


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