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 Post subject: Turner out
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:32 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:34 pm 
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bIg banner in millouse end.


No matter how much you hate a manager or person I feel putting up a display is the wrong thing to do, by all means vent your frustration and anger by shouting, well thats my opinion anyway :grin:


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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:42 pm 
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Well you would have to go to a game first.


Very true :laugh:


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I think Uncle Ken's piece in the program made a lot of sense regarding CT.
Yeah I know he is in on it and obviously biased, but he looks like he might make us another 10 points relative to Southend.
Come on Pools.


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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
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Fair play to the lads who put the banner up.

It made me chuckle when the Stockport fans joined in with the Turner out chants.


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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:22 pm 
Fair play for putting it up but the timing was all wrong, as soon as board goes up and the points are safe fair enough but not with 15-20 minutes left.

To be fair the whole ground shouting "off" when the ref was lecturing Turner and West was one of the funniest moments of the season.

Farts in spacesuits have been more popular.


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Fair play for putting it up but the timing was all wrong, as soon as board goes up and the points are safe fair enough but not with 15-20 minutes left.

To be fair the whole ground shouting "off" when the ref was lecturing Turner and West was one of the funniest moments of the season.

Farts in spacesuits have been more popular.


And CT's been criticised as well. :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:32 pm 
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Fair play for putting it up but the timing was all wrong, as soon as board goes up and the points are safe fair enough but not with 15-20 minutes left.

To be fair the whole ground shouting "off" when the ref was lecturing Turner and West.


AGREED!!! Sorry both were a joke IMO we still need the points to stay up so how does this help!!!! rage


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The timing of the banner and chants were wrong - the team needed the fans behind them - not shouting at Turner - whatever the feelings are towrds him - it can't help the team - and I disagree - I think the players do take note - as they often have with the abuse hurled at them from certain quarters
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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
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Agree that we need fresh face at the helm - but my point was the timing of the chanting and banner being unfurled - Stockport, albeit a poor side - were having a go at us, and with the confidence (or lack of) as it is, the fans behind the team would have lifted them - instead of the stupid turner out stuff.
Agree also that Westie's sending off plus the chants of off off off were funny - but that was a more spontaneous thing than the obviously plannned banner.


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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
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I wasnt at the game last night as had to work but i think that holding Turner banners up at this crucial stage of the season is all wrong and expecially after 3 wins in 4 games. I think if people want to show the thoughts then leave it will we are safe in this division for next season before trying to disrupt the side. But when there are still games to be played and mathematically we still could go down although very unlikely now after 3 wins in 4 games i think its stupid personally.

Last game of the season then ok understood maybe to show your thoughts but we are on a decent run at the minute and yes its only against the weaker sides in the division but you can only beat what is put in front of you so cant complain with 3 wins from 4 games and 2 of those being away games also. I think its a shame that We were so poor against Wycombe as if we got a point there or 3 then i think the views towards Turner may have changed slightly and people might actually get behind him for the final games of the season.


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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
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Fair play for putting it up but the timing was all wrong, as soon as board goes up and the points are safe fair enough but not with 15-20 minutes left.


Just so everyone is aware, the banner went up with exactly 7 minutes to go!

People have been moaning about Turner needs to go etc, so we decided to take action and see if everyone would be behind us. we got a good response, but for those saying it was wrong could you answer this?

If we lose the 3 points due to tubby's inept mamangement skills (Managing and knowing how many booki ngs his players have, that be manager OR Director of Sport) he should be well aware of this.

Are you happy with the way Turner is running the team? the way were playing? I have notice he has stopped his talk ins since the slide happened!!!!

If we dont act and show that we wont put up with this clown then we will have him again next season.

As people have voted with their feet last night, attendances will be less again next season.


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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
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do you honestly think the players are even remotely affected by the turner out chants ? they certainly havent been doing much to keep him in a job the last 4 or 5 away games i have been to.


While or away form has been bad I think the Turner out chants did get to the players last night. At 2 nil up a proportion of the crowd thought it was 3 points in the bag and now we can have a go at Turner. The banner comes out and the chants start and then the players switch off for 15 minutes. More significantly at the end of the match, instead of taking well deserved applause the players are virtually straight into the tunnel because all they are hearing is "Turner out".

While I am not a Turner fan myself I don't think it helps.

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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
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loyal blue wrote:
Just so everyone is aware, the banner went up with exactly 7 minutes to go!

People have been moaning about Turner needs to go etc, so we decided to take action and see if everyone would be behind us. we got a good response, but for those saying it was wrong could you answer this?

If we lose the 3 points due to tubby's inept mamangement skills (Managing and knowing how many booki ngs his players have, that be manager OR Director of Sport) he should be well aware of this.

Are you happy with the way Turner is running the team? the way were playing? I have notice he has stopped his talk ins since the slide happened!!!!

If we dont act and show that we wont put up with this clown then we will have him again next season.

As people have voted with their feet last night, attendances will be less again next season.


Fair play to you.

As I've said before I'd love Turner to succeed here but it doesn't look like it's happening. I'd still give him til the end of the season and reassess from there and I'm not convinced that protests at this stage are beneficial, BUT if you feel that strongly then you have every right to do what you did. Been there and done that myself in the past.

One question though, did the stewards try and confiscate your banner or tell you to take it down?

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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
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loyal blue wrote:
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One question though, did the stewards try and confiscate your banner or tell you to take it down?


It looked like the stewards were helping to unfold it! :laugh:

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eye amm onn maiking mi turnur owt banna noww butt eye kant fined a
kleen sheat oar kan ov sprey paynte :shock:
anutha problum iz eye sitt inn see kay stande see tea mite knot sea itt


gud luk wiv mayking te banna mait. Aye sitt inn the see kay two an aye luk forword two c-ing itt.

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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
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Mr Ripper wrote:
loyal blue wrote:
One question though, did the stewards try and confiscate your banner or tell you to take it down?


Ripper the stweards made no attempt to get us to take it down. i dont see how they could of really. I made sure it was away from advertising boards and at the bottom tier of the stand to prevent obstructing anyone elses view of the game.

So the start of a result really. A couple of the guys wanted it to come out in the first half but I said once we had put the game to bed and supported the players, then it would come out when the time was right.

We were 2 - 0 up and coasting the game of a depleted Stockport side. So i thought the timing was far from foul, and a repeat will take place Saturday. Either when we are 2 or 3 up, if the game is tight, then it will come out once the additional time board is held up.

I'm sure I also heard Flinders shouting he wanted Turner Out too


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loyal blue wrote:
Mr Ripper wrote:
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One question though, did the stewards try and confiscate your banner or tell you to take it down?


Ripper the stweards made no attempt to get us to take it down. i dont see how they could of really. I made sure it was away from advertising boards and at the bottom tier of the stand to prevent obstructing anyone elses view of the game.


Good.

The Scooty Out banner we had up the other year didn't have the stewards turning a blind eye though hence why I asked.

Although their eagerness to prevent legitimate protest inside the ground might have had something to do with the subsequent protest outside the ground along Clarence Road. :wink: :laugh:

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Although their eagerness to prevent legitimate protest inside the ground might have had something to do with the subsequent protest outside the ground along Clarence Road. :wink: :laugh:


That was an excellent bit of work. I think the lad responsible got caught though, am sure I saw him doing community service yesterday!!

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Although their eagerness to prevent legitimate protest inside the ground might have had something to do with the subsequent protest outside the ground along Clarence Road. :wink: :laugh:


That was an excellent bit of work. I think the lad responsible got caught though, am sure I saw him doing community service yesterday!!


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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
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Ive just ahad a phone call saying that the news has picked this up saying

"HArtlepool win 3-0 and yet fans still protest for Turner to be sacked".

then a statement from IOR says,

"The club do not have money to spend and Chris Turner WILL be still in charge next season"

Well thats me saving £400 pre-season on a season ticket.

How many more will be joining me?


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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
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I'll pick and choose if thats the case


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loyal blue wrote:
Ive just ahad a phone call saying that the news has picked this up saying

"HArtlepool win 3-0 and yet fans still protest for Turner to be sacked".

then a statement from IOR says,

"The club do not have money to spend and Chris Turner WILL be still in charge next season"

Well thats me saving £400 pre-season on a season ticket.

How many more will be joining me?


I refuse to go back mate while he is in charge. He hasn't got the desire or will to make this team play week in, week out.

Definetly the right time to get the flag out. And if Turner comes out and labels them the boo boys then he is so wrong its untrue. These lads are proper fans, been on a few coaches with them in my time and the are Pools though and through always making loads of noise for the team.

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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
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Ive just ahad a phone call saying that the news has picked this up saying

"HArtlepool win 3-0 and yet fans still protest for Turner to be sacked".

then a statement from IOR says,

"The club do not have money to spend and Chris Turner WILL be still in charge next season"

Well thats me saving £400 pre-season on a season ticket.

How many more will be joining me?


Where is this 'statement' sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
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I think he is talking about hodcrofts notes in the program


Well they didn't say anything of the sort.


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I think he is talking about hodcrofts notes in the program



These notes;

http://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/page/ ... 54,00.html

Nothing in there about who will be manager next season.

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I think he is talking about hodcrofts notes in the program


Well they didn't say anything of the sort.

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Although I wasn't with the lad's who put the banner up, I actually think that's a better way of protesting than chanting "Turner out". At 2-0 up some chants for Turner to go rang out. Now although I want him out I didn't join in. Reason at 2-0 up my opinion is that chants "supporting" the team are better than chants against the manager. So something along the lines of "Blue army" Two Little Boys, anything to show the players we were behind them.

If we'd been 2-0 down I may well have joined in.In fact I'd probably have started it.

The banner showed a protest against Turner and not against the team.

And the lad's who put it up have said they will be there on Saturday, surely that's better than not attending a home game.

Peaceful protesting is fine by me.

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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:37 pm 
'Loyal Blue' concentrating on taking his club to bits?? sctatchinghead sctatchinghead

I think you need a new name, mate. Don't even consider the line about supporting the lads in the shirt. You're just trying to drive a wedge between them and the bloke they work for. How can that help?? confised They don't have a choice.


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Spender what can i say, why do i need to change the name. I am loyal to Hartlepool United Football Club and have been since i was two feet tall. I will be until the day I die.

However, can you honsetly answer and tell me that Chris Turner is the man to lead this football club into the future? I doubt it very much.

I never once sang criticising the players but the manager. pritty much the whole stadium chanted OUT OUT OUT when the ref was having a word with Tubby. Does this mean the near 3000 crowd are also driving that wedge? No i didnt think so.

As someone stated, I will be there Saturday, as well the remaining home games and possibly two away trips in there for good measure.

As stated before I am behind HUFC and its players 100%, but not that fcuker in charge.


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Spender what can i say, why do i need to change the name. I am loyal to Hartlepool United Football Club and have been since i was two feet tall. I will be until the day I die.

However, can you honsetly answer and tell me that Chris Turner is the man to lead this football club into the future? I doubt it very much.

I never once sang criticising the players but the manager. pritty much the whole stadium chanted OUT OUT OUT when the ref was having a word with Tubby. Does this mean the near 3000 crowd are also driving that wedge? No i didnt think so.

As someone stated, I will be there Saturday, as well the remaining home games and possibly two away trips in there for good measure.

As stated before I am behind HUFC and its players 100%, but not that fcuker in charge.



A few in yingyangs in the town end and a few in the 'Louse were shouting for Turners heed. not 'pritty' much all of the ground

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I agree, quite a few of the players do need to give their heads a good fooking shake.

on the other hand, quite a few of the players brought in this year obviously aren't good enough.


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Turners here til May theres absolutely no doubt about that so hows about letting it drop & try to enjoy our last few weeks of the season.
Whatever happens in the summer happens & if you dont like it dont renew,but for the next few weeks lets just concern ourselves with collecting points

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I agree, quite a few of the players do need to give their heads a good fooking shake.

on the other hand, quite a few of the players brought in this year obviously aren't good enough.



On a different but similar note, Cooper brought in as much shite as Turner has

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Turners here til May theres absolutely no doubt about that so hows about letting it drop & try to enjoy our last few weeks of the season.
Whatever happens in the summer happens & if you dont like it dont renew,but for the next few weeks lets just concern ourselves with collecting points


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Turners here til May theres absolutely no doubt about that so hows about letting it drop & try to enjoy our last few weeks of the season.
Whatever happens in the summer happens & if you dont like it dont renew,but for the next few weeks lets just concern ourselves with collecting points


ok what shall we talk about then? sctatchinghead


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I agree, quite a few of the players do need to give their heads a good fooking shake.

on the other hand, quite a few of the players brought in this year obviously aren't good enough.



On a different but similar note, Cooper brought in as much shite as Turner has

FWIW & tia


I'm not blaming turner for buying the wrong players, at the end of the day pools dont have the money to buy established pro's but every once in a while we hit it lucky, e.g joel porter.
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I agree, quite a few of the players do need to give their heads a good fooking shake.

on the other hand, quite a few of the players brought in this year obviously aren't good enough.



On a different but similar note, Cooper brought in as much shite as Turner has

FWIW & tia


That is absolute and utter bollocks.

Cooper brought in some shyte don't get me wrong but he also brought in Gabbiadinni, Porter, Danns, Ross, Dimi, Clark and Butler and Hugh Robertson who were all easily good enough for our level and were sound additions. Then there were others like Shuker, Pouton and Martin Woods who were good enough but didn't settle for whatever reason.

Turner has brought in Nardiello, Flinders and Austin who have been sound additions. There are serious serious question marks over the rest.

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I agree, quite a few of the players do need to give their heads a good fooking shake.

on the other hand, quite a few of the players brought in this year obviously aren't good enough.



On a different but similar note, Cooper brought in as much shite as Turner has

FWIW & tia


That is absolute and utter bollocks.

Cooper brought in some shyte don't get me wrong but he also brought in Gabbiadinni, Porter, Danns, Ross, Dimi, Clark and Butler and Hugh Robertson who were all easily good enough for our level and were sound additions. Then there were others like Shuker, Pouton and Martin Woods who were good enough but didn't settle for whatever reason.

Turner has brought in Nardiello, Flinders and Austin who have been sound additions. There are serious serious question marks over the rest.


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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:20 pm 
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Got to admire the quality of that banner whatever you think of the sentiment or timing.

Good shade of blue and clear lettering that does the job, home-made but with care. Not a crappy spray paint banner but not the the horrible mass produced internet bought banner you see at Manure type protests either.


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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:07 pm 
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I thought it read 'Turner Dut' and was advertising a new style headwear. :uhoh:


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 Post subject: Re: Turner out
PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:18 pm 
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Not the best sales pitch


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