Not a single one of them deserves any credit for that performance on Saturday.

Flinders- 5
McSweeney- 5
Austin- 5
Clark- 4
Collins- 4
Jones- 3
Gamble- 4
Sweeney- 6
Humphreys- 3
Monkhouse- 4
O'Donovan- 4
Brown- 5
Rowell- 5
Boyd- 5

Absolutely dire the fkin lot of them. They want beasting, they let us down, they let their manager down, they let themselves down and they should be ashamed of themselves.

If that is what we're gonna get from now til the end of the season then we're going down. Next weekend will show if they react positively and get 6 points or just throw the towel in and condemn us all to Fourth Division shite next season. I hope they have the balls, the decency and the character to do the former.

Optimistic? I'm farging well not!

Humphreys- 3 and the worst player on the pitch? Wtf? Was it you and your mates giving him stick by the way as mentioned by another poster?

Sir richie was our best player on saturday and that says everything

It wasn't the best performance from a footballer you'll ever see but it was his desire to win that impressed me as the rest of them couldn't of cared less. He actually wanted something to happen and was trying to do something about it. There were a number of occasions when he was too slow to react but generally he put in a good shift and to give him the same mark as Jones is scandalous IMO

sweeney - 6
Richie - 3

Obviously I was watching another match all sweeney did all day was have one shot thats it. I agree with TPP.

How many times did Humphreys give us an attacking option down the left wing, the position that he was supposed to be playing in? How many times did he go past his man? How many times did he make a run outside the full back looking for a pass? Bugger all.

Yes, he was neat and tidy with his backwards and sideways passing but that is all. He didn't do the job that he was on the pitch to do and therefore I marked him as I see justified.

I wasn't slagging him off on Saturday either thanks, I respect the fact that he was one of the best players that I've ever had the privilege of seeing in a Pools shirt when he was at his peak, but unfortunately those days have gone and sentiment won't win us any league points. Richie Humphreys could probably boss the midfield for Gateshead in the Conference but he's not effective enough at League One level as his legs seem to have gone.

Claiming that he had a good game on Saturday is scandalous in my opinion.

I agree that Humphreys worked hard on Saturday but his end product isn't what it used to be. All i will say is that at least he had the opportunity on the ball. I was pulling my hair out watching the ball constantly being played down the left - we may as well not have a right side. Jones didn't have a good game but how often did he get the ball - 10 times if he was lucky in 63 minutes - you can't affect a game unless you get the ball !!! To give Sweeney a 6 (MOM!!!) is crazy - apart from his shot which hit the cross bar he was his usual self and even contributed to their only goal !!

Humphreys was our best player (and that's not saying much) by a country mile.

hth.

Helps?

It certainly does.

Coming from you it confirms that he was cack.

Thank you.

I never said you were slagging him off, I simply asked if it was your group who were giving him stick from the sidelines as an early posters has mentioned.

I can think of at least a couple of occasions in the second half where he beat his man and put a cross in, one of them resulted in O'Donovan (twisting) and forcing the keeper into a save. He put one great free kick in late on and made a good 25 yard run in the first half then shot wide, he also put two great throws in with 2 minutes to go. On top of that he was the only player who showed hunger and determination for Pools to win. It wasn't an amazing performance as I've already said but it was one he can be proud of. To suggest he was the worst player on the pitch, give him the same mark as Richie Jones and mark him 3 marks less than Sweeney is probably your thickest contribution to the board and less face it, there have been a few.

I'm intrigued what Sweeney did on Saturday for you to give him a 6. I can only presume you gave him an extra 4 marks for hitting the bar.

it galls me to say it but TPP is right. MOM on saturday was a toss-up between mcsweeney and richie, regardless of the exalted one's age, weight or anything else. i can forgive him being over the hill because he was almost the only one who looked as tho wearing the shirt meant fookin anything.

what the fook tubby was thinking about leaving sweeney on when he subbed jones is beyond me. sweeney, unfortunately, was awful and has been all season for me. at least with jones, the potential is always there for him to turn a game and create a goal.

i don't care whether he's lost the dressing room or not, he's lost me completely. i have a season ticket but will not be attending any more home games.

we could have 50,000 home fans there and Pools would still play sh-ite under Tubby

Some people are obviously either easier pleased than others or look at certain players through rose tinted spectacles due to who they are rather than what they produce now. I never had you down as the latter so can only assume it's the former.

I'm not going to get involved in a debate over the comment about thickest contribution as it would take too long to draw up a definitive list of your contenders.

and the other questions I asked? Any chance of an answer?

Agree with both posts apart from not going again................toying with the idea though.

I'll still be going when I can make it and don't have other things on but Turners' Pools no longer take priority over other things I might have on.

Like last season if we stay up it'll down to default.

Sweeney covered more ground in the first half than Humphreys has in half a season. With more capable players around him or his team mates playing to their potential his contribution would've been more noticeable to some of the more blinkered fans that we have.

Just out of interest, where do you watch the match from? He spent the second half right in front of us and most of his contribution was the two throw ins that you mention and clapping his hands a lot.

And precisely what did Sweeney do when he covered all of that ground? The lad seems to panic whenever he gets the ball; rush, rush, rush, oh look I've given it away. A lot of bustling, not a lot of production. Is it a confidence thing or has he levelled off in talent as time has gone on? Possibly a bit of both, but Sweeney is not good enough for this league. I thought Richie Humphreys had a reasonably good game, but that's only in comparison to the rest of the players in a Pool pitch. He at least tried to keep it steady and give it time to develop, even if that never happened.

Had any of his (Sweeney's) team-mates possessed the ability to pass forwards to somebody in the same coloured shirt there would've been more end product for the runs he was making.

I can't disagree with your last comment regarding Humphreys however, as I said previously all that he did was neat and tidy but negative and backwards, hence making him look to be doing ok whilst offering nothing going forward which as a winger was what he should've been doing and what I personally was judging him on.

Seeing as you're judging players on their role I'm intrigued what you're offering Sweeney for for his role as our attacking midfielder. Sorry I forgot it was his team mates fault he was shyte.

You say Humphreys offered us nothing going forward yet it was his good ball for Brownies chance in the first half, he made a great 25 yard run just before and then shot wide, put in a great cross for O'Donovan to tamely shoot at the keeper, one excellent free kick and 2 great throws (one of which led to us hitting the post). If every midfielder had created as much as that then we'd have got at least a draw.

He also did all the basics right as you say and two of our best attacking play in the first half came from him breaking up the play with decent tackles.

As said previously not the best shift ever produced but certainly not one that would see him marked the worst player on the pitch.

Everyone I've spoke to has judged him highly, everyone on here has given him praise (there's even a full thread giving him applause) and the two local papers gave him Man of the Match. Forgive me if I'm confused why you say he was our worst player.

I was sat just behind you on Saturday so got more than a good view of his performance.

Still failed to answer if it was your mob giving him stick, I am going to have to deduce that it was indeed them if you keep ignorning it.

Agreed with Sweeney, I think we need to accept that he isn't good enough at this level anymore.

Are you a politician? Which bit of my question are you struggling with?

Was it YOUR MOB giving him stick on Saturday?

I don't have a mob.

There isn't even much of a gathering of us at the match anymore as quite a few of the lads have stopped going due to the apathy and disinterest that they have due to our current management and the performance of the team.

Hope that helps.

Your mates were abusing Richie during the game, weren't they?

Who cares we got beat everyone played shit.

Not that I recall.

Certainly not excessively if there was any discontent with his performance.

The team was that shit the most vocal I recall us getting all afternoon was to abuse the steward.

No, no, no.

You're not allowed to say that.




You're supposed to say that everybody except Sir Ritchie played shit.

I also thought McSweeney had a good game fwiw.

Supprised you took your eyes of Ritchie long enough to see if anyone else played well.