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The young lad stabbed to death by 3 feral black youths while out celebrating finishing his gcses.
Hanging is even too good for these evil scum but if ever capital punishment was to be re introduced I'd personally drag them to the gallows myself.

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Hear, hear.


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have'nt we already got a hangman on here?


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Just been reading of the trial and I feel sick to the stomach, the poor lad didn't stand a chance. rage

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:21 am 
I forgot to mention a while ago, a young girl from South Durham was lured by 'friends' to a spot where she was savagely beaten up and left unconscious, apparently for getting better GCSE results than the others.
Feral white youths...hanging too good for them....etc etc


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Thank you grabey; you saved me thinking of a suitable reply.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben Kinsella
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:24 am 
Then there was the case of the local lad who'd gone to live down South who was seized by 3 white people, tied to a tree, had petrol poured down his throat and was finally set alight.

Feral black youths, huh? No imagination


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Chip will be along shortly to assure us that because he once lined amongst an immigrant population he can say that this is not their fault and knife wielding young black youths are the systematic of them not being spoon fed well paying jobs.


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Grabec wrote:
I forgot to mention a while ago, a young girl from South Durham was lured by 'friends' to a spot where she was savagely beaten up and left unconscious, apparently for getting better GCSE results than the others.
Feral white youths...hanging too good for them....etc etc



aah so thats alright then.


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Or the poor bloke beaten to death by them two boxing brothers, that pleaded guilty to manslaughter.

I think they were white as well. That made me feel sick too.

The poor bloke didnt stand a chance.

Hanging is too good for them.

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Whether the guardian readers like or not there is a direct correlation between the majority of these knife crimes and the colour of the perpetrators. Obviously anyone can come up with exceptions but I bet I can find a shit loads more knife crimes by black youths than white.


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Look, let's stop all this pretence: all black people are born with raging bloodlust and I wouldn't be surprised if they ate their victims while nobody was looking.

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The frightening thing is that some of that statement is correct.


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Mr I wrote:
The frightening thing is that some of that statement is correct.

Consider me frightened then.
Excuse me while I just nip out and piss on a dying woman.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben Kinsella
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I was only quoting several tv and newspaper reports of the trial
I'm probably the least racist person on here but these gangs refuse
And seem to think its living in the backstreet of the bronx and carrying a knife is the norm.

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Like I said, we call all pull out exception but it is not the norm for people to piss on a dying woman, thats why we were all so outraged. It is not the norm for people to pour petrol onto people and thats why we were so outraged.

Unfortunately it is the norm for young black youths to carry knives and to use them.


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I've said it before, you don't need to be in the ghetto to be stabbed in Liverpool. We moved out cos the nearest primary school was on St Johns Estate home of the Barton's and you may remember that Barton's cousin put an axe through the skull of a black lad that lived in Mellor Close where we used to live.

I think we're talking scum here and all you lot banging on about racism are avoiding the nub of the problem that there's a violent underclass of whatever colour.

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I'm not racist i have loads of black mates me, my best friend is black.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben Kinsella
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Try living in Nottingham or other similar cities then tell me theres not a problem with black youths. I might be wrong but I don't remember Hartlepool being overly multicultural other than the corner shop on Duke Street.

Oh and Monty; tell me about the worst areas of France. Is there any correlation with the likes of St Denis ?


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It is the norm for the press to shout loudly about black youths & knife crime.
Go to the A&E departments in Glasgow,Aberdeen,Edinburgh one weekend & see how many of their knife crimes have been committed by niggers.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben Kinsella
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Mr I wrote:
Try living in Nottingham or other similar cities then tell me theres not a problem with black youths. I might be wrong but I don't remember Hartlepool being overly multicultural other than the corner shop on Duke Street.

Oh and Monty; tell me about the worst areas of France. Is there any correlation with the likes of St Denis ?


It's not that they're black it's the fact that they're scum. Scum has no racial boundaries just regional variations.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben Kinsella
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:01 pm 
I don't think it's neccessarily black people that are comitting the crimes, I do believe that it is black gang culture that is encouraging kids carrying the knives in the first place.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2007 ... crime.race

2 years ago Tony Blair seemed to have the same opinion


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 Post subject: Re: Ben Kinsella
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:03 pm 
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Grabec wrote:
I forgot to mention a while ago, a young girl from South Durham was lured by 'friends' to a spot where she was savagely beaten up and left unconscious, apparently for getting better GCSE results than the others.
Feral white youths...hanging too good for them....etc etc



aah so thats alright then.


What's all right? Run that past me again? sctatchinghead

We've certain crimes in Durham that seem to be very popular indeed.
Things like, breaking into old ladies bedrooms and raping them at knife-point, holding up post-offices and killing the staff there for a few quid, killing your (female) partner for daring to think your marriage is over, beating up and/or killing people for daring to stand next to you at the bus-stop.
Just a minute, all these criminals are MEN. That never struck me before. Imprison all men and we'll be fine.

Thank heavens there are few black people living here, or how would we survive?


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Oh FFS! there are none so blind as those that will not see. Lets look at exclusively white areas, find some knife crime and somehow cathartically deny that this is a black youth culture problem. Jesus, even Blair has accepted this as a fact. He made a speech recently saying exactly that.

You'll find the odd incidence of knife crime in Easington, the most white area of the UK but it isn't normal. Yes there will be some instances in Glasgow but these examples are exceptions.

Look at it another way; can you apologists quote me one black area in the UK where knife and gun crime is not a major problem?

And Frodaff, I agree that its not that they're black but it so happens that the vast majority ARE!

Please please please. Get off your PC high horses and look at the data.


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 Post subject: Re: Ben Kinsella
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:21 pm 
I always thought that Glasgow was the Knife capital of Europe!!!! confised confised

Unless that was a few years ago like!!!! confised confised


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 Post subject: Re: Ben Kinsella
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:28 pm 
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Oh FFS! there are none so blind as those that will not see. Lets look at exclusively white areas, find some knife crime and somehow cathartically deny that this is a black youth culture problem. Jesus, even Blair has accepted this as a fact. He made a speech recently saying exactly that.

You'll find the odd incidence of knife crime in Easington, the most white area of the UK but it isn't normal. Yes there will be some instances in Glasgow but these examples are exceptions.

Look at it another way; can you apologists quote me one black area in the UK where knife and gun crime is not a major problem?

And Frodaff, I agree that its not that they're black but it so happens that the vast majority ARE!

Please please please. Get off your PC high horses and look at the data.


We probably all have looked at the data. The data shows that different areas have different predominant crimes, and that, surprise, surprise, the crimes are committed by the people who live there, usually.
That's not what we're arguing about. What most of us are getting at is that although most criminals are not knife-wielding or black, this is one of the few categories you ever focus on. The others are swept aside as 'exceptions' to the rule.
You have an obsession, Mr I.


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And u have an obsession with picking holes in everything u can't agree with. Its not very often I agree with Mr I but this time he is dead right.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben Kinsella
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:46 pm 
You could say I have an obsession with the truth, yes.
Mr I is right about there being a problem with black youth crime in Nottingham.
I don't see that he's right to be scathing about other people noticing there are different crimes and criminals elsewhere. But I bow to your superior knowledge


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I posted only to highlight a needless death which I found very disturbing, both the ferocity and the ignorance and contempt these animals hold for a human life.

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So can we put a figure on how many black youths carry knives?
Oh, and I don't remember apologising for the behaviour of those that do.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben Kinsella
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:05 pm 
I think people are picking up on the fact that the original thread said '3 feral BLACK youths'!!!! confised confised

Now do you think you will see the following in ANY of the Media....

'WHITE middle-aged nursery worker, Vanessa George, has been charged with four counts of sexual assault and three counts relating to the distribution of indecent images of children.'????

Not a chance!!!! confised :evil:


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One way to 'deter' Knife Crime is anyone found carrying a knife of a certain size gets 5 years....no ifs or buts!!!! :evil: :evil:


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I think people are picking up on the fact that the original thread said '3 feral BLACK youths'!!!! confised confised

Now do you think you will see the following in ANY of the Media....

'WHITE middle-aged nursery worker, Vanessa George, has been charged with four counts of sexual assault and three counts relating to the distribution of indecent images of children.'????

Not a chance!!!! confised :evil:

Well put Mutt.

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Just a thought but do you think knife attacks and gang culture in the inner citys has got worse with young people coming here from war torn countrys were violence and lack of respect for life was normal.

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Just a thought but do you think knife attacks and gang culture in the inner citys has got worse with young people coming here from war torn countrys were violence and lack of respect for life was normal.

What, places like Jamaica you mean? :wink:

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One way to 'deter' Knife Crime is anyone found carrying a knife of a certain size gets 5 years....no ifs or buts!!!! :evil: :evil:


Even if i've just bought if from the asda for me tea?

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Well I'd think you were dodgy anyway if you eat Knives for Tea!!!! confised confised

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What if i'm one of them knife swollerer gadgies?

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There's loads of these threads. Even the one about Ro*****do turned into a discussion about whether its the niggers or the black bashers who should be bashed.

The usual pattern is that Mr I repeats his opinions and then all the Guardian Readers jump up and down and say racism a lot, I along with others tell a few tales of old Liverpool and the East End, all to the delight of Mr I.

From my point of view this is excellent entertainment.

I've not noticed anyone feeling so strongly that they've done anything like getting into a political organisation and getting elected into a postion of power to do something positive about 'these injustices'.

Still I suppose getting rid of all that hot air makes them feel better.

I suggest worry beads for the more angry correspondents.

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There's loads of these threads. Even the one about Ro*****do turned into a discussion about whether its the niggers or the black bashers who should be bashed.

The usual pattern is that Mr I repeats his opinions and then all the Guardian Readers jump up and down and say racism a lot, I along with others tell a few tales of old Liverpool and the East End, all to the delight of Mr I.

From my point of view this is excellent entertainment.

I've not noticed anyone feeling so strongly that they've done anything like getting into a political organisation and getting elected into a postion of power to do something positive about 'these injustices'.

Still I suppose getting rid of all that hot air makes them feel better.

I suggest worry beads for the more angry correspondents.


Well, you've been noticing and not noticing the wrong things. :wink:
No-one has been jumping up and down saying 'racism', and if they did you couldn't possibly have seen their Guardians from there.
Again, those of us who have joined political organisations didn't do so in public, and so couldn't be noticed on a message board, for that reason.
Meanwhile, might I suggest, on behalf of Mr Frodraff, that all those posters who are always releasing hot air about football should get off their arses and offer themselves to Mr Turner as goalies :coool:


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Maybe I am rascist, although I would argue to the end that I am not. My reason for saying this is that whenever I read or hear about this sort of crime, without evidence, or fact my first thought, unconsciously is that the perpotrators will be black youths, am I a rascist then?
By the way, I am more often than not correct

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Just a thought but do you think knife attacks and gang culture in the inner citys has got worse with young people coming here from war torn countrys were violence and lack of respect for life was normal.


What excuse have the Weegies got then?

I've just spent the best part of a year commuting to Glasgow every week for the sake of love. On a couple of occasions I had to attend court with my girlfriend after she had a knife pulled on her by a 15 year old girl. Yes, a 15 year old girl. Govan, the Gorbals, Easterhouse etc. all have their own gangs who fight over 'territory' and all carry some form of weapon. As Frodraff said, it's not a black thing but a scum thing.


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whenever I read or hear about this sort of crime, without evidence, or fact my first thought, unconsciously is that the perpotrators will be black youths, am I a rascist then?
By the way, I am more often than not correct


But it wouldn't be your first thought, though, would it? If you'd heard that a white lad had been knifed by 3 attackers, yes, you might assume the attackers were black, but only if you knew the area. If you'd heard that the victim was black, you might not assume that at all. Why would you? If anything you'd assume the attackers were white.
It would be very unlikely to be a black knifer in my area, because there are no black people. There's plenty of white crime, though


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Yes it would be his first thought. The clue is in his words "my first thought would be".


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Please don't assume what my first thought would be, after all it's MY first thought isn't it

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Ok. I just thought that it couldn't possibly be your first thought if the crime occurred in an area where there were no black people.
If you still want me to answer your question, my reply is: I don't know if you're a racist


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Simple question Mr Bresslaw.
Why is your first thought on a knife crime that it will have been committed by black youths ?

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I don't know the answer to that, perhaps it's because most of the time I see this type of crime on the news and in the media, it is black youths......maybe

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Yet when you hear a news item about a paedophile you first thought is not that the perpetrator is a white adult even though the majority of cases we hear about are white adults.
Thats the way the media is,if a black person commits a crime you can guarantee their colour will be mentioned.

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When I hear an Whitby Whelk Stall has been broken into my first thought is not that the perpatrator is a Captain Bird's Eye look-a-like with a seafood addiction.
Thats not the point I was making.

In my job it would be very dangerous to be judgemental so far as crime is concerned, but I stand by my original statement.

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