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 Post subject: Players keep or release.
PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 8:21 am 
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This is gonna be fun.

I DO hope the players really do read the board. rage

Budtz...................Keep as back up.

ALB. Release. Hopeless. I am a better keeper.

McCunnie. Release. If he couldnt get a regular game in that defence, theres something wrong.

Nelson. Release. Lost his bottle clearly. Yesterday made my mind up.

Collins. Release. Too slow.

Clark. Keep. As a defender only. Are you listening CT?

Robson. Release. He is old enough NOW, to be a regular. He still isnt. says it all.

Jones. Keep. A decent first season, but has to toughen up. Bit of a poof. Chips kind of player. :wink:

Liddle. Keep. Just. Obviously has potential, but has wafer thin confidence. A 12 month deal, and if he doesnt wake up, get rid. Squad player.

Sweeney. Keep. But another that has to get more involved more often. Too often, despite his work rate, the game passes him by. We cant afford passengers, and he is experienced enough now. Squad player.

Monkhouse. Release. I love this player, but he clearly can only be arsed when it suits him. Not good enough. He owes us a performance every week. Not when he feels like it. My toughest decision.

Boland. Release. Too many injuries. Our most experienced players need to play.

Humphreys. Keep. He has shown how much he cares even though he has been dropped. Not a left back, but a vital squad player. VItal. Did you hear me, you foookin know nowts.

Power. Keep. He cant be on high wages. Clearly has talent, but needs to show it, and show more professionalism. Clearly overweight. His life style is questionable. One more season, to prove his worth.

Brown. Keep obviously. And build the team around him.

Mackay. Release. Project ken has failed. Its time to ditch the project.

Foley. Release. Nevr has been good enough. Never will be.

Rowell. Keep. But to be fair, I havent seen enough of him. But I trust the opinion of MadJohn who rates him. Thats good enough for me.

Young, Tymon, Tait, Cook. Release. They never got a sniff, so cant be good enough.

Lange. Keep, and hopefully gets fit. Could be a great player for us.

Nardiello. Buy if we can.

Skarz and Parker. Not for me.

So thats me keeping 9 only, and hopefully signing Lange and Nardiello.

With the signing of Boyd, that gives me a squad of 12.

Ten new players required. 6 of which need to be first teamers.

And there, ladies and gentlemen, is the start of the makings of our 2009/10 promotion squad. :wink: :laugh:

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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:11 am 
Monkhouse release???? sctatchinghead sctatchinghead

I agree he sometimes 'Looks' lazy....but to me that's a Waddle/Le Tissier syndrome!!!! :coool: :coool:

He's our only player that make make something out of nothing and one of the most skilful players Pools have ever had!!!! :coool:
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clappp great post ADG.

I would disagree with 2 (only 2) things.

I would NOT sign lange (his wages will be very high and his history is littered with injuries) - i dont think we can afford the risk. For the wages that he will demand I reckon there must be plenty of strikers playing in other european countries who would be less of a gamble.

I would KEEP monkhouse - whether he gives 100% or not each game. Even playing at 50% would give the team a lot more creativity. We have scored plenty of goals this season and monky is a key reason why imo.

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I would NOT sign lange (his wages will be very high and his history is littered with injuries) - i dont think we can afford the risk. For the wages that he will demand I reckon there must be plenty of strikers playing in other european countries who would be less of a gamble.


You don't want to take a risk on a striker who has played international football, champions league football and has had a shoulder injury which has kept him out, oh, and is already at the club?

Give him a chance man.

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Is he with the club, I thought he came in until the end of the season in an attempt to get some games and match fitness.

Saw him at MK Dons and he certainly offers different options, but not entirely convinced
If he is available at a reasonable wedge, then by all means sign him, some interesting combinations,
with him Boyd, Brown and hopefully Nardiello

Rowell is the 'man' to bring on next season, very exciting player


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Probably should have phrased that differently to 'been with the club'.

Interesting that he's stayed until the end of the season, despite the injury. I saw him strolling around the flea market a couple of weeks ago.

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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:58 am 
give lange a rolling contract and sign nardiello, younger option, nardiello is a 20 a season goal getter


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I would NOT sign lange (his wages will be very high and his history is littered with injuries) - i dont think we can afford the risk. For the wages that he will demand I reckon there must be plenty of strikers playing in other european countries who would be less of a gamble.


You don't want to take a risk on a striker who has played international football, champions league football and has had a shoulder injury which has kept him out, oh, and is already at the club?

Give him a chance man.


Supporters of his previous clubs have accused him of having glass legs - he is undoubtedly a talanted player but no matter how talented he is the gamble in signing an injury prone player on a good contract (probably at least 3k a week) is not worth taking for a club of Pools stature.

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give lange a rolling contract and sign nardiello, younger option, nardiello is a 20 a season goal getter


A rolling contract would be a better option but would Lange really do this? I reckon not. I cant see many players leaving their home country to play for a club on a game by game contract - there would not be enough security in it.

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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 10:17 am 
if he doesnt then release him to buy nardiello, who i presume would also want canny high wages. lange is 30+ and as good as he may be, untill he prooves he isnt injury prone its pointless giving him a years contract. nardiello is 26, not at his peak and is more of a better option imo


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Nardiello can be our new Joel. He's the most similar I've seen. He's the one loanee I hope the hell we can keep.
Brown can do a job attacking from the wing - he's way too similar to Boyd to double up with him.
Those three, aided and abetted by someone like an in-form Monkhouse pitching in ten goals, can set us on our way to 80 goals next season (the top scoring team this season got 82).

BUT: unless we get our defence sorted out, our midfield will not thrive and our strikers will starve to death.

Note to Tubby: GET NARDIELLO SIGNED, TODAY!

Note to Tubby (2): GET A DEFENCE YESTERDAY!

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Nelson was not fit yesterday and should not ahve been playing. He was no worse than the lot of them!


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How is Ritchie Jones being a "bit of a poof" a just criticism of his footballing ability ?

I think we should we release Budtz and keep Lee Barrett.

I think we should keep Nelson, Clark and Robson.

I can't believe people are saying release Foley.

I'd keep Lange, Nardiello and quite possibly Skarz.

I think Humphries is in the twilight years of his career with us now.

I'd release Boland and Mackay to be honest.


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Poolie of Kent wrote:
I think we should we release Budtz and keep Lee Barrett.



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I'm afraid Budtz does not impress me. Also, that blunder yesterday didn't help.


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Poolie of Kent wrote:
I think we should we release Budtz and keep Lee Barrett.

I can't believe people are saying release Foley.


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 Post subject: Re: Players keep or release.
PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:08 pm 
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I can't believe people are saying release Foley.



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Here's a clue he's a forward who has appeared 96 times in the football league and not scored a goal, and you can't believe it!!!!????

Both keepers need to go, they are both not even of conference standard the fact they have remained at the club for two years is a disgrace. The fact they were both signed in the first place is a disgrace.


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Alright, I acknowledeg that but I think Foley could be a great asset as a bit-part player, like the super sub he was this season.


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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:19 pm 
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Alright, I acknowledeg that but I think Foley could be a great asset as a bit-part player, like the super sub he was this season.


When!!? He's done well on about two occasions in cup matches, our bread and butter is the league were he has not scored a goal in nearly 100 fooking games!!!? If me or you appeared in the football league 100 times theirs every chance we might have scored at least once!

He has had chance after chance to prove he is good enough and he falls way short of the mark.

It's the same with Matty Robson, if we want to improve we need better quality players. They may be nice lads and 100% triers but the harsh reality is they aren't up to this standard of football.


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Poolie of Kent wrote:

I think we should we release Budtz and keep Lee Barrett.

I think we should keep ..... Robson.

I can't believe people are saying release Foley.



OH FOR CHRISTS SAKE. STFU!!!!!!!!!

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Foley is here next season he stil has a year on his contract Fact


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My retained list is:

Jones, Liddle (just), Monkhouse, Clark, Brown, Sweeney, Robson, Rowell.

I'd sign one of Lange or Nardiello with a preference of Nardiello.

I agree with the other poster who suggests that Monkhouse doesn't always appear to give 100% but he has the ability to turn a game so stays. I'd also keep humph it was guarenteed that we'd be signing a left back and that he would only be used in midfield.

Its a massive job signing 4/5 starters for the defence/gk but it has to be done. Though I fear Collins still has another year on his contract to run after signing Jan 2007?


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Skarz .. id try and sign him hes a player that puts in a 100% a game and hes only 19.
Monks great player that can have a good game 6/10 times.

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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 12:20 pm 
Poolie of Kent wrote:
I think we should we release Budtz and keep Lee Barrett.



I can't believe people are saying release Foley.


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Poolie of Kent wrote:
I think we should we release Budtz and keep Lee Barrett.



I can't believe people are saying release Foley.


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That's a brilliant book that: One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest. :laugh:



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Humphreys. Keep. He has shown how much he cares even though he has been dropped. Not a left back, but a vital squad player. VItal. Did you hear me, you foookin know nowts.



Oh do give over! If badge kissing is a qualification then lets bring back Ian Clark. Let it go man, he's been past it for 2-3 years.


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Why are so many people upset about Ian Clark ? He was a great player for us before he went to the darkside.

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Humphreys. Keep. He has shown how much he cares even though he has been dropped. Not a left back, but a vital squad player. VItal. Did you hear me, you foookin know nowts.



Oh do give over! If badge kissing is a qualification then lets bring back Ian Clark. Let it go man, he's been past it for 2-3 years.


I thought he was supposed to Mr. Hartlepool United - the man's who has supposed to have been the man that has personified the Club's success in these last 10 years?


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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 11:08 pm 
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Humphreys. Keep. He has shown how much he cares even though he has been dropped. Not a left back, but a vital squad player. VItal. Did you hear me, you foookin know nowts.



Oh do give over! If badge kissing is a qualification then lets bring back Ian Clark. Let it go man, he's been past it for 2-3 years.


No he hasn't, he's just been completely wasted at left back.

He got on the ball and changed the flow of the game against Leeds, and did the same on Saturday by all accounts. The fact he didn't start in the centre of the park yesterday was very, very poor on Turners part. If he'd have been deployed as the holding midfield player after Boland got injured I reckon we'd have been talking about Humphreys having a really decent season.

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[quote=

I think we should we release Budtz and keep Lee Barrett.

I can't believe people are saying release Foley[/quote]

I will echo what others are saying and add my own little bit to it.

YOU ARE A COMPLETE IDIOT IF YOU STAND BY THOSE STATEMENTS!!!

Your dad should ban you from using the internet for life for posting such bollocks.

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Clark Keep
Robson Keep
Jones Keep
Liddle Keep
Sweeney Keep
Brown Keep
Rowell Keep
Young Keep
Tymon Keep
Tait Keep
Cook Keep
Lange Keep
Nardiello Keep
Skarz Keep


Budtz Release
ALB Release
McCunnie Release
Nelson Sell
Collins Release
Monkhouse Release
Boland Release
Humphreys Release
Power Release
Mackay Release
Parker Release
Foley Release


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Release Monkhouse!?!? :shock:

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Why release Monkhouse but keep Robson?

Just how many more chances do you want to give Robson, for him to flatter to deceive?

There cant have been a player in the history of HUFC given as many opportunities as Matty Robson.

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I stated we should let Monkhouse go, but it was a toughie. I love the guy and think he has been one of our better players over the past 3 seasons.

But tough decisions are needed. But not stupid soft ones, like keeping constantly underachieving players. matty Robson is not a youngun anymore.

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"There cant have been a player in the history of HUFC given as many opportunities as Matty Robson."

Apart from Foley?

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Why release Monkhouse but keep Robson?

Just how many more chances do you want to give Robson, for him to flatter to deceive?

There cant have been a player in the history of HUFC given as many opportunities as Matty Robson.


I'd rather keep someone with Robson's attitude than Monkhouses.

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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:05 pm 
Mr I wrote:
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Why release Monkhouse but keep Robson?

Just how many more chances do you want to give Robson, for him to flatter to deceive?

There cant have been a player in the history of HUFC given as many opportunities as Matty Robson.


I'd rather keep someone with Robson's attitude than Monkhouses.

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More pragmatically I said that Humphreys is too slow, far too slow for this division.


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More pragmatically I said that Humphreys is too slow, far too slow for this division.


Yes, but I'm agreeing with your point that attitude counts for an awful lot.


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Paul Stephenson's team was fairly shite but it had a good attitude and they fought like terriers right up to the last match.
That 90th minute equaliser against virtually-promoted Brentford was a shining example.

A team of average 3rd division players giving their all in every game would do me fine; after all, isn't that exactly what Cooper gave us?

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