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 Post subject: Petition regarding drug smuggler
PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:22 pm 
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I've had this in an email. Personally I can't sign anything supporting anyone actively involved in smuggling or pushing drugs. He's in jail and rightly so, 30 years does seem harsh but he knew that they don't mess about when he rolled the dice.


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Scott was arrested on the Thailand/Cambodia border with 250 amphetamine pills, with a street value of £130.There were a lot of unfortunate events leading up to this. He began serving a 30 year sentence in Rayong Central Prison Thailand. He is now at serving his sentence at the "Bangkok Hilton" Bangkwang central prison Thailand. He is 32 years old and is in his 3rd year of sentencing. Scott is well and remains positive. He thanks everyone for supporting him, this really does mean so much to him!


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:32 pm 
30 years is incredibly harsh for the quantity of drugs in terms of street value but I agree I couldn't sign. Everyone is aware of the consequences if you get caught with drugs in that part that of world. The times I've been to over to those parts I've always checked my bag three times before I lock just incase someone has put something in it!

If you don't want spend half you're life in the the Hilton or be killed by lethal injection don't traffic drugs around South East Asia!


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Fooking ell the lad made a mistake, a very big one in terms of the sentence he got, but there is no way the lad deserved the time he got. We all make mistakes, ok maybe he may have got a bit greedy but he certainly deserves another chance and not serving a sentence which is surely only deserving for murderers etc...

I'm sure if it was one of your own relatives you'd think different, no-ones perfect, he made a mistake and yes of course he knew the risks, we all know the risks of british law when we do something illegal but I bet we still do it from time to time.

Sign the petition and at least give the lad a chance.

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Made an example of him, you have to set a marker for people who want to smuggle drugs!


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What a load of foooking shite, everyones so perfect on here aren't they :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Petition regarding drug smuggler
PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:55 pm 
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Fooking ell the lad made a mistake, a very big one in terms of the sentence he got, but there is no way the lad deserved the time he got. We all make mistakes, ok maybe he may have got a bit greedy but he certainly deserves another chance and not serving a sentence which is surely only deserving for murderers etc...

I'm sure if it was one of your own relatives you'd think different, no-ones perfect, he made a mistake and yes of course he knew the risks, we all know the risks of british law when we do something illegal but I bet we still do it from time to time.

Sign the petition and at least give the lad a chance.



Not a cat in hell chance of me signing it, did he think, 'Well if I get caught, I'll only do six months, piece of piss'


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Fooking hell, another of the followers, I knew you wouldn't be far behind,keep em coming :roll:

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30 years for a bag of pills far too harsh ..Wonder what the sentence is for a bit of weed :shock:No life should be ruined for that amount


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I'd like to see if it was one of your own relatives, what a pack of uncaring twats there are on here, the guy had a few speed pills, he was hardly dealing high quantities of smack, oh why do I foooking bother.

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No life needs 250 amphetamine pills!


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 Post subject: Re: Petition regarding drug smuggler
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Sussex07 wrote:
30 years for a bag of pills far too harsh ..Wonder what the sentence is for a bit of weed :shock:No life should be ruined for that amount


It takes a darlo fan to actually feel a bit for the lad, shows up some of the bounders on here :evil:

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 Post subject: Re: Petition regarding drug smuggler
PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:01 pm 
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Made an example of him, you have to set a marker for people who want to smuggle drugs!


It's not making an example of him it's the zero tolerance policy they have towards anyone who is caught smuggling drugs. Anybody who's over there is well aware of the consequences he would have faced the lethal injection had he not pleaded guilty. He claims he had a £600 gambling debt in a part of the world where it's illegal to gamble what sort of people was he associating with?

I have sympathy for him but I wouldn't sign a petition he's been as stupid as it's possible for a human to be! He'll get a pardon in time, they all do.


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The Lightning Tree wrote:
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30 years for a bag of pills far too harsh ..Wonder what the sentence is for a bit of weed :shock:No life should be ruined for that amount


It takes a darlo fan to actually feel a bit for the lad, shows up some of the bounders on here :evil:


No mate, think about it, if this kid had got them pills out in main stream england, and lets say, your son/daughter/brother/sister/mother/father got spiked and killed by one of these pills would you then go on and sign the pathetic petition?

No, thought not.


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 Post subject: Re: Petition regarding drug smuggler
PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:04 pm 
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Fooking hell, another of the followers, I knew you wouldn't be far behind,keep em coming :roll:





Just because I don't want to sign a petition for a bloke who is caught in a country with zero tolerance on drug smuggling makes me a follower of what?

Perhaps Gary Glitter should get a petition going about the harsh sentencing he got in the Far East??

It's a tough old world out there, he must be a grade A cock of the highest order if he didn't realise the consequences of his actions and to be honest Mr Tree, I couldn't care fooking less how long the dozy bounder got


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 Post subject: Re: Petition regarding drug smuggler
PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:09 pm 
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I'd like to see if it was one of your own relatives, what a pack of uncaring twats there are on here, the guy had a few speed pills, he was hardly dealing high quantities of smack, oh why do I foooking bother.


If it was one of my relatives I'd devastated a member of my family could be so selfish.

You don't get it, it's not what he was doing it was where he will be been very well aware of the consequences.


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 Post subject: Re: Petition regarding drug smuggler
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You can always get hold of drugs one way or the other...Maybe they should stick to cleaning up there sex trade and the thousands of kids who lifes are ruined ..


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 Post subject: Re: Petition regarding drug smuggler
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Maybe so, but doesnt it all relate to drug problems in the first instance???


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 Post subject: Re: Petition regarding drug smuggler
PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:20 pm 
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Who'd have thought you could purchase blue order merchandise from the Bangkok Hilton :shock: :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: Petition regarding drug smuggler
PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:22 pm 
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I have signed his petition.

In 1996 I was on holiday in Turkey,one night i was in a boozer & a local asked if I wanted any hash.At the time I was a regular pot smoker so I said yeah,he asked me to jump in the car & go with him so we didnt get seen,I did,bought the grass & we set off back.On the way back the police pulled him over,I was shiteing myself,stuffing the grass into his car seat,the police checked his driving licence & said 'off you go' (or words to that effect).Fortunately for me all the guy was after was a few quid & a couple of beers,but it could have been so much different.
Yes,it was a stupid thing to do,but do you think a daft error of judgement like that should have cost me 30 years ?

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 Post subject: Re: Petition regarding drug smuggler
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I have signed his petition.

In 1996 I was on holiday in Turkey,one night i was in a boozer & a local asked if I wanted any hash.At the time I was a regular pot smoker so I said yeah,he asked me to jump in the car & go with him so we didnt get seen,I did,bought the grass & we set off back.On the way back the police pulled him over,I was shiteing myself,stuffing the grass into his car seat,the police checked his driving licence & said 'off you go' (or words to that effect).Fortunately for me all the guy was after was a few quid & a couple of beers,but it could have been so much different.
Yes,it was a stupid thing to do,but do you think a daft error of judgement like that should have cost me 30 years ?


The main difference is you bought a personal use amount, he was ready to deal this drug.


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 Post subject: Re: Petition regarding drug smuggler
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As I said, 30 years for a bag of speed in incredibly harsh but if he is resting all his hopes on the government petitioning the Thai authorities to get a drug smuggler out hes in cloud cuckoo land. There would be an outcry.

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 Post subject: Re: Petition regarding drug smuggler
PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:29 pm 
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I have signed his petition.

In 1996 I was on holiday in Turkey,one night i was in a boozer & a local asked if I wanted any hash.At the time I was a regular pot smoker so I said yeah,he asked me to jump in the car & go with him so we didnt get seen,I did,bought the grass & we set off back.On the way back the police pulled him over,I was shiteing myself,stuffing the grass into his car seat,the police checked his driving licence & said 'off you go' (or words to that effect).Fortunately for me all the guy was after was a few quid & a couple of beers,but it could have been so much different.
Yes,it was a stupid thing to do,but do you think a daft error of judgement like that should have cost me 30 years ?


Hardly smuggling drugs through an international border for financial gain is it!?


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Who knows how he got involved in the first place,the guy could have made a daft drunken mistake & the consequences snowballed.
Many English tourists have ended up getting pissed & suckered into something stupid whilst abroad,this guy might be one of them.
He might just be a greedy fucker who saw drug dealing as easy cash too,but we dont know either way & Im not gonna judge him.

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By the way, if it was a member of my family I'd be gutted of course but that would be because I was emotionally involved not because I agreed with it. Incidentally (2)
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 Post subject: Re: Petition regarding drug smuggler
PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:35 pm 
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Who knows how he got involved in the first place,the guy could have made a daft drunken mistake & the consequences snowballed.
Many English tourists have ended up getting pissed & suckered into something stupid whilst abroad,this guy might be one of them.
He might just be a greedy f*** who saw drug dealing as easy cash too,but we dont know either way & Im not gonna judge him.


It says on his site that he had a £600 gambling debt and did it once to settle this debt and he didn't want to bother his family for the money as his brother was getting married!?

So he'd risk smuggling drugs into one of the least drug crime tolerant countries in the world over a few hundred quid which he could have borrowed from his family? He's either stupid beyond comprehension or not telling the truth.


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He still deserves a 2nd chance. As iv said he made a mistake but the sentence is ridiculous. A mate of mine has been sending over parcels on a regular basis such as toiletries etc to the lad and the support he has received has been overwhelming. If he had received a few year fair do but its the severity of the sentence is the reason why he gets my support for a reduced sentence.

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Scotsman... how known...!! only put in the necessary first aid kit..... yawn1


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 Post subject: Re: Petition regarding drug smuggler
PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:45 pm 
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He still deserves a 2nd chance. As iv said he made a mistake but the sentence is ridiculous. A mate of mine has been sending over parcels on a regular basis such as toiletries etc to the lad and the support he has received has been overwhelming. If he had received a few year fair do but its the severity of the sentence is the reason why he gets my support for a reduced sentence.


He'll get a pardon on the King's birthday eventually. He says on his website as soon as he was caught he was aware that minimum sentence he would get was 25 years, it may be ridiculous but that is how it works out in Thailand and he would have well aware of that.

Do you honestly believe it was the first time he'd done it? Why would you risk everything for £600?


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Sussex07 wrote:
30 years for a bag of pills far too harsh ..Wonder what the sentence is for a bit of weed :shock:No life should be ruined for that amount


It takes a darlo fan to actually feel a bit for the lad, shows up some of the bounders on here :evil:


I suppose this makes me one of the c*nts on here then. Because I don't have an ounce of sympathy from the story I've heard so far.

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Wonder if the drugs made there way back onto the streets again


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he will get another chance...when he gets out.

theres innocent folk in jail, wouldnt we be better off trying to help them ?


As you hear all the time 'EVERYONE in jail is innocent'


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 Post subject: Re: Petition regarding drug smuggler
PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:16 pm 
I've signed it!!!! confised

Against Drug Smuggling/Dealing etc but 30 years is harsh in the extreme!!!! confised confised

And I know....when in Rome etc but....30 years!!!! confised confised


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:19 pm 
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I've signed it!!!! confised

Against Drug Smuggling/Dealing etc but 30 years is harsh in the extreme!!!! confised confised

And I know....when in Rome etc but....30 years!!!! confised confised



It's not though Mutters, it's a law of country he was in

I suppose if a foreign national broke a law in the UK you would sign their petition??


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:24 pm 
There's no chance of anyone getting 30 years in this country no matter what they did!!!! confised confised


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Mmmm yeah....I forgot about the 'War On Terror'!!!! confised :roll: confised


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:40 am 
When you fly through these places, all over the airport walls it says 'the penalty for smuggling illegal drugs is death.'

I'm not sure what bit of that leaves room for interpretation.

Yeah he would have got a slap in the UK but he's not in the UK. Neither will anyone from the FCO or anywhere else help him. Can you really see them going to the Thai Government (whoever that is this week) and saying 'can you go a bit easer on our drug smugglers please?? We keep getting petitions......' :roll:

Whatever the opinion, the petition is a waste of paper.


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Whatever the opinion, the petition is a waste of paper.


It may not make a difference to anyone in authority but may just be the difference between his survival & suicide.

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It may not make a difference to anyone in authority but may just be the difference between his survival & suicide.


Hang on, just checking my 'do I give a fuck supply'.................................................. no sorry, out of stock.

Drugs are the cause of so much misery in this world its incredible. This guy had willingly become part of the supply chain and knew the risks in that part of the world. The only change I'd make is to give him a lot more company.


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The whole story is bollocks.

Theres a hell of a lot of ways to make £600 rather than smuggle drugs from one of the most intolerent countries there is. If your gonna smuggle then you at least do it from Amsterdamn or somwhere where the penalty is way less harsh.

Am signing fuck all.

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God forbid anyone on here breaks the law :roll:

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God forbid anyone on here breaks the law :roll:


We all do no doubt, but if there was a well publicised 25 year minimum jail term then im pretty sure we wouldnt.

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The point is the sentence is far too harsh, he agrees he did wrong and accepts that. He knew the risks and the severity of a sentence if caught but it still doesn't make it right that he should have to serve 30 years in a cockroach infested prison, not for 250 foooking speed pills!!!

He is asking for a 2nd chance and he is asking for support in that bid to have his sentence reduced. A lot of people in jail deserve a 2nd chance and he is certainly one of them. He's served nearly 3 years and I think thats enough for the crime committed.

He obviously hasn't any support on here but i'm sure that won't bother him considering he hasn't directly appealed to the board anyway, he has plenty of support elsewhere and hopefully within the next 2-3 years he'll get good news and he'll be released into society and hopefully his time behind bars will make him a better person for it.

By the way, if it was one of your own kids, would you support them and campaign as scotts parents have for an early release?

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Their country, their laws, their sentences. Harsh or not harsh - they have to deal with drug trafficking the way that works best for them.

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thirty years or the death penalty he had a choice

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That Peru prison on Banged up abroad this week seemed quite reasonable . Only three to a tiny cell .. 6kg of coke served 3 years out of eight .Do they ever have any nasty people on that programme ?


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Second chance? I take it that his record in this country is spotless then? He was unfortunate that his first brush with the law happened on the Thai border whilst concealing copious amounts of illegal drugs?


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Being good honest English men and forgetting Thai law .Should not the punishment fit the crime on this matter or petition .


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