get a wash you scruffy c***

not you, grave

Congratulations Tone, you've just named my "Most Despised Acts Ever". Can't abide ANY of those no-marks but at least The Gallaghers could play a bit. Whoever plays Guitar in Babyshambles wants shooting with shiit, he's f*** WOEFUL.

Congratulations Tone, you've just named my "Most Despised Acts Ever". Can't abide ANY of those no-marks but at least The Gallaghers could play a bit. Whoever plays Guitar in Babyshambles wants shooting with shiit, he's f*** WOEFUL.

he is hardly promoting drug misuse mr i.

he is hardly promoting drug misuse mr i. in fact if anything he is the walking embodiment of why people should steer a million miles away from heroin and crack.

like mr groovy says when he is clean he is a charming, charismatic and intelligent bloke with a lot of very valid points to make.

unfortunately he is hopelessly addicted to class a drugs, and he has the money to finance his habit. im not sure what locking him up for 4 weeks is going to achieve. if he earns his money legitimately and wants to spend it on smack more fool him. it hardly makes him britains most wanted.

to suggest that he has no musical ability is daft. he would hardly be in a position to headline any stage at glastonbury and play a tour of major arenas in the uk if he had no talent.

im not a big fan of him or his music but ive seen both the libertines and babyshambles live and i have to say doherty was not only a decent musician he was an absolutely mesmeric frontman, up there with the best ive seen.

as for cobain...his songs changed the shape of music. sorry but thats factually correct. again im not a massive nirvana fan, though i did see them live, but their impact, like that of the stone roses was pheonomenal.

babyshambles audiences, if what ive seen is anything to go by, are made up of 30 and 40 something ex punk rockers, who admire dohertys diy ethics, young mums who want to mother him, and young kids who see him as dangerous and edgy. similar in many ways to they way we felt about bands like public enemy back in the day.

going to see public enenmy live in brixton as a white kid was a bit un-nerving, but it didnt make me want to get tooled up and start shooting coppers. nor did it make me want to gang bang and deal drugs for a living.

i do take your point that doherty is looked up to by the youth, but it depends how we want our rock and roll starts to behave.

if you go back thru musical history you can trace drug misuse right back thru the fifties rock and rollers to the stones, janis joplin, hendrix, the who, pink floyd, the doors,the new york dolls, the sex pistols, the happy mondays, suede, spiritualised and on and on.

succesful pop stars with their access to large sums of money and their lifestyle have always fallen prey to drug misuse.

what pains me sometimes is the way pop stars with a drug habit are labelled wasters and junkies and are generally looked down upon, but pop stars who drink booze by the crate are seen as one of the lads and classed as role models.

a lot of pop stars, like a lot of actors take drugs. doherty just takes more than most and takes the really dangerous ones. i do wonder though if he gets arrested and locked up as a high profile drug user more often than your bog standard drug user.

i also wonder when the cops are going to start randomly stopping and searching city types who buy and sell stocks and shares all day and who snort coke the way most of us drink coffee.

going to see public enemy live in brixton as a white kid was a bit un-nerving, but it didnt make me want to get tooled up and start shooting coppers.

You lucky bastid! I'd've loved to have seen them live

Seems to be some funny opinions on here considering that there was a post not so long ago about taking LSD that went on for a fair few pages.

Anyone under the misguided impression that at least 90% of music released since year dot wasn't drug influenced in some way, shape or form needs to wise up in my opinion.

Personally, I don't like Pete Doherty as a person and I don't like his music. It can't be argued that he has some talent though.

I love Ian Brown, Kurt Cobain, Shaun Ryder etc. All legends as far as i'm concerned and all massively influential. They helped shape my outlook on music and inspired countless people to go on and write good music. What's wrong with that?

I've seen every band mentioned on here and quite frankly I never thought, from 1994 at Reading with Public Enemy to 2006 with Babyshambles, 'OOoohhh, he takes drugs, I'd better take some.'

Because that's just shite.

He's been locked up for insulting the judicial system that's all, he hasn't harmed anyone except himself.

He is the victim of a victimless crime. The nicks are full of them. Ta Tony.

By the way, you're all paying for his incarceration. At least if you bought his albums you got something to keep.

I'd rather pay for his upkeep in the nick then one of his Long Players, thank you very much!

totally agree kev. he has done time twice already in 2 of the roughest nicks in the land. a third stint aint gonna bother him much. especially if its only for 4 weeks and he is getting his methadone.

the whole thing simply gets him free publicity as he is on the 6 o clock news and the front pages of the papers.

personally i dont get it. he signed a deal last year that made him a millionaire. he can do anything he wants with his life, unlike most of us, and he choses to spend his time and money on smack, a drug normally associated with folk who want to blot out the pain and drudgery of everyday life.

whatever folk think of him, he is clearly intelligent, and yet despite seeking help from the top addiction proffessionals in the uk he simply cannot get himself off drugs.

i seen that doccumentary on him, and there was a bit where he was clean and he was playing with his kid, daft carrying on, and he was just like a normal happy dad. and then 2 weeks later he was sat there off his tits swearing and spitting at the bloke making the doccumentary and shooting up in front of him.

i feel sorry for the bloke. he clearly has issues. and i feel even sorrier for his kid.

The difference is the smackheads who broke into your Nanas house stole for their habit,Doherty pays for his own habit.
All those telling us what a waste Doherty is & how despicable he is,what are your opinions on
Elvis Presley
Johnny Cash
John Lennon
Paul McCartney
Phil Lynott
Keith Richards
??

Difference is, he doesn't cost us money, he's got piles of it, if he wants to spend it doing himself in, fair play, gerron with it Pete.

Get it right, it's not drugs that kill people, it's the lifestyle that goes with it. Pete Doherty can afford that lifestyle, your average drug rat can't. That's where the problem starts and ends.

To Doherty, this is fee rehab.

Which is a bloody sight cheaper than the Priory, which 99.9% of people can't even think about.

Yes they do.

Difference is, he's not out climbing into some old lady's bungalow nicking her jewellery to buy his drugs.

He's not a smack addict, he's a coke head, so he won't be on methadone. He'll be on sumat like valium, which is muck cheap.

The three grand a week is exactly my point. The judge decided to spend it when he poses no threat compared to most dope heads.

He's only offended the system, and for that, the taxpayer pays.

"If you don't think drugs have done good things for us,then take all your records,tapes and CD's and burn them" bill hicks