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 Post subject: Re: D&R Predictions
PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:12 pm 
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Don’t think Dagenham anything special. It’s a poor league this year. Think that they are playing in 3rd gear to be honest


What makes you think they are in 3rd gear sctatchinghead How many D & R games have you witnessed this season sctatchinghead Crazy one sided thing to say and definitely not something anyone could say about a team you now practically nothing about :roll: Sometimes it makes me wonder if one or two any here ever praise Pools or want them to win. In recent years I put it down to Raj and get that then but it's now turned on the team. banghead


Seriously what do you expect? Are you still defending this shit show? 5 points above the relegation having played non of the favourites. I tell you what it is. An utter disgrace.

Everyone wants us to win anyone thinking otherwise is on another planet. Fans wont be conned like some they will say it how it is. Big 45 minutes to turn it around.


Billy read my reply and take off your hatred of Pools glasses off for 1 minute. I simply replied to a message that makes no sense at all to me and certainly shouldn't to any real Pools fans. Criticism is everyone's choice but to say a away team is only playing in third gear is 100% bloody silly when it's almost certain that poster has never seen D& R play. :roll:


What hatred what a stupid comment some just cant handle the truth. Its not hatred its whats put out in front of your eyes


Go ahead sack Sarll and replace him with a another but I very much doubt your pure hatred of Hartlepool United will ever change. Let's be totally honest here you are the number one poster of " hatred " on the bunker and have been for years now. banghead Others do critise a lot like Loyal & lately our Kev but without knowing either one personally it's easy to understand they just want the best for Pools and get frustrated which is what real supporters go through. We won't ever all agree on the bunker but it's easy to distinguish between real and false ( possibly Darlow ) or maybe you are in a terrible marriage and need a new woman. banghead


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 Post subject: Re: D&R Predictions
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I dont think anyone here hates Pools or wants them to fail.....we are all in a similar boat though of being able to do fuck all about something we care about---and we all react differently--some of us get madder than others and can lash out more at the nearest thing...Ie fellow posters.

We are in a really poor state though again through years of mismanagement and its very depressing (from a football perspective) to see the club where it is, punching well below there weight

And Speaking of looking for someone to blame---Walter Mitty Shithead has been quiet---revelling in his role when they appointed Sarll as though he had some say in it, now weaseling away in silence--one of those who wants the perks and presitige but not the responsibility


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Can't blame anyone bit Sarll for the underachieving and abysmal performances and results though can we?


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 Post subject: Re: D&R Predictions
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loyal_fan wrote:
I dont think anyone here hates Pools or wants them to fail.....we are all in a similar boat though of being able to do fuck all about something we care about---and we all react differently--some of us get madder than others and can lash out more at the nearest thing...Ie fellow posters.

We are in a really poor state though again through years of mismanagement and its very depressing (from a football perspective) to see the club where it is, punching well below there weight

And Speaking of looking for someone to blame---Walter Mitty Shithead has been quiet---revelling in his role when they appointed Sarll as though he had some say in it, now weaseling away in silence--one of those who wants the perks and presitige but not the responsibility


Good post Loyal. But are all the Bunkerites real Pools supporters or is it likely one or two are Raj & Pools haters from Darlow possibly. sctatchinghead As regards this Walter Mitty Shithead bloke I have it on good authority he is not known by any of the player staff or management at the club. It begs a question is he really the " big I am " he professed to be or a simple distraction with no say at all. Maybe Raj cleverly used him to deflect his own criticism of supporters. sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: D&R Predictions
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Can't blame anyone bit Sarll for the underachieving and abysmal performances and results though can we?


If you want me to agree then I have to because the buck stops at the manager. But please try not to protect Walter Mitty Shithead in the following posts unless you still believe he is the new coming of Christ :wink:


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You agree with me then have a pop, are you for real?
I don't protect anyone, I don't know Walter Mitty Shithead, and I'm an atheist.
What does Mr Walter Mitty Shithead have to be protected for btw what's he done wrong?


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 Post subject: Re: D&R Predictions
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PTID wrote:
You agree with me then have a pop, are you for real?
I don't protect anyone, I don't know Walter Mitty Shithead, and I'm an atheist.
What does Mr Walter Mitty Shithead have to be protected for btw what's he done wrong?



Accoridng to him was instrumental in picking the current manager.....am guessing he wont be so mouthy when he's sacked


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 Post subject: Re: D&R Predictions
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Back to the game. Fergy got booked for a nothing challenge after the ref failed to give a blatant free kick in his favour. Then he got booked a second time and a red for what looked like a 50/50 from the far side of the pitch.
One of there's got booked 1st half and then soon after committed a far worse foul but only got a talking to rather than a 2nd yellow.
Not saying it would've changed the game but why did the ref red card our player but not their's?


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Think our reputation this season has been noted by the referees


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 Post subject: Re: D&R Predictions
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Back to the game. Fergy got booked for a nothing challenge after the ref failed to give a blatant free kick in his favour. Then he got booked a second time and a red for what looked like a 50/50 from the far side of the pitch.
One of there's got booked 1st half and then soon after committed a far worse foul but only got a talking to rather than a 2nd yellow.
Not saying it would've changed the game but why did the ref red card our player but not their's?


thought Fergie was unlucky to be sent off....but again harder to accept after 3 others stupid and well deserved red cards

Sarll and his sidekick constantly shouting their mouths off on the sidelines, arent going to exactly leave us on the right side of 50/50 decisions either...


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 Post subject: Re: D&R Predictions
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PTID wrote:
You agree with me then have a pop, are you for real?
I don't protect anyone, I don't know Walter Mitty Shithead, and I'm an atheist.
What does Mr Walter Mitty Shithead have to be protected for btw what's he done wrong?


OK let's get back to Walter Mitty Shithead. :laugh: You said and I quote " You agree with me then have a pop " a pop sctatchinghead So basically you are saying if I agree with the majority of opinions this evening I should not have a pop at Walter Mitty Shithead WHY sctatchinghead. You say you don't know Walter Mitty Shithead which could well be true, however you also say you have met the man which is more than most on here. And strangest of all you get proper pissed off if anyone mentions his name sctatchinghead I got to amit you do confuse me a lot. I believe in D.S. and have done all season however things have got to the point of me being unable to protect the man much more because I simply cannot have gotten it right when vast majority of our fans disagree and so far they have got it spot on and ( apart from just odd one who hate Raj and anything connected ) .and I have not. Maybe you could take a leaf out of my book and admit Walter Mitty Shithead could be a knob instead of protecting a man who is very clearly unpopular. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: D&R Predictions
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Leggie really what are you going on about? Accusing fans now of been darlo supporters? Seriously? Is this to deflect how this lot have started to make you look a bit of a mug? You have sang the praises of the manager and players all season. Not sure how many times you had seen the players before like but so be it.

To be honest the man crush or whatever you have on sarl is starting to make you look rather clueless. If your happy the way were going stick with sarl lets see where we end up? It appears it seems only you thinks he can still do a good job, maybe take heed that fans who rarely criticise anything pools related are shocked how bad it is. That maybe tells you something.

If you find me too critical fair enough maybe i am but their is nothing worse than someone burying their head in the sand. Infact if pools do that its frankly dangerous.


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 Post subject: Re: D&R Predictions
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Leggie43 wrote:
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Can't blame anyone bit Sarll for the underachieving and abysmal performances and results though can we?


If you want me to agree then I have to because the buck stops at the manager. But please try not to protect Walter Mitty Shithead in the following posts unless you still believe he is the new coming of Christ :wink:


Crikey are you seriously blaming a random pools fan for this mess. Seriously?


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 Post subject: Re: D&R Predictions
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Leggie you were having a pop at me not Walter Mitty Shithead when you told me not to protect him in future posts ffs! You seem obsessed with trying to make out I'm some sort of crank who believes the club and all the staff can do no wrong.
I've met King Charles but that doesn't mean I k ow him or like him or even have an opinion on him!
The way I see it is that Sarll has made it quite clear in his interviews that he's the man making the decisions on the recruitment, picking the team, deciding tactics, making subs and all the stuff that football managers do. He and he alone is getting it wrong massively. And if anyone is being protective of anyone on here it's You protecting Sarll and insisting we stick with him and it'll come good. Dream on.
And just for balance Walter Mitty Shithead must be doing a shit job because my personal matchday experience hasn't improved.
Raj looks like he's given the manager a decent budget and recruitment on the playing side looks good, but imo he's got the wrong manager again - his fault or LL / Walter Mitty Shithead I don't have a clue.


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 Post subject: Re: D&R Predictions
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Back to the game. Fergy got booked for a nothing challenge after the ref failed to give a blatant free kick in his favour. Then he got booked a second time and a red for what looked like a 50/50 from the far side of the pitch.
One of there's got booked 1st half and then soon after committed a far worse foul but only got a talking to rather than a 2nd yellow.
Not saying it would've changed the game but why did the ref red card our player but not their's?

did not see the game and just going off the highlights his second caution was well deserved. if the ref had made a mistake or was over zealous with his first caution and two wrongs do not make a right by ignoring the second offence committed. its 2024 football and 1994 where refs are told how to referee games and more interested in what assesors think rather than players or fans. How many players, managers, owners and fans actually wanted the game being controlled how it is today. Mother Theresa would have a bad disciplinary record if she was around in the womens game.


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 Post subject: Re: D&R Predictions
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Even if Fergys bookings were deserved then it doesn't excuse the fact that their player made 2 worse tackles was booked for the 1st and only spoken to for the 2nd. Where's the consistency?
I suspect the ref bottled it because he didn't want to red card someone so early in the game whereas Fergy was late on and he couldn't get his card out quick enough. And he might as someone has suggested been passed off at our management team having booked the pair of them?
It wasn't a dirty game by any stretch of the imagination. The ref was as usual shockingly poor imo.


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 Post subject: Re: D&R Predictions
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Even if Fergys bookings were deserved then it doesn't excuse the fact that their player made 2 worse tackles was booked for the 1st and only spoken to for the 2nd. Where's the consistency?
I suspect the ref bottled it because he didn't want to red card someone so early in the game whereas Fergy was late on and he couldn't get his card out quick enough. And he might as someone has suggested been passed off at our management team having booked the pair of them?
It wasn't a dirty game by any stretch of the imagination. The ref was as usual shockingly poor imo.

they,ll continue to be poor until the day happens when they can ref as individuals and not have to follow instructions to the letter from those above. there will still be mistakes as there always have been but its rare to find to instances in a game exactly the same. lots of good refs have been lost to the game due to their personalities and age when taking it up. could bore everyone to death on all the true stories i have heard and none put the situation in a good light. as players we watch our hero,s and those at the top. no wonder refs get assaulted in parks football if they follow those at the top and fail to get their own experiance first.


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 Post subject: Re: D&R Predictions
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Didnt even bother watching it on the dodgy box, was so obvious what was going to happen yesterday, its reached the point of embarassment. Once again the best player in the division start of last season on the bench, a midfield devoid of any attacking ideas. We have got to be careful now or we are going to get dragged into a right mess very soon.


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It was probably our best footballing performance of the season at home. We at least tried to play some football on the grass but the gaps between midfield and attack are just extreme. We created a few good chances but didn't take any. Still not enough quality happening in the final third.


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Best player in the division LAST SEASON the problem he has only showed flashes of it the season that’s why he is on the bench.


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 Post subject: Re: D&R Predictions
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Best player in the division LAST SEASON the problem he has only showed flashes of it the season that’s why he is on the bench.


He has only showed flashes because of the way we play. Same can be said of manni d, the same can be said of a lad that played in a promotion winning team in league 2. Some managers get the best out of players, this guy clearly isnt.


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Exactly, Mancini needs to be playing through the middle he's not a wide player, Mani D needs service into the box rather than playing in isolation with his back mostly to goal, Joe Grey needs to be playing closer to Mani D, stop asking footballers to be just ball chasers and hoofers.


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Didnt even bother watching it on the dodgy box, was so obvious what was going to happen yesterday, its reached the point of embarassment. Once again the best player in the division start of last season on the bench, a midfield devoid of any attacking ideas. We have got to be careful now or we are going to get dragged into a right mess very soon.


Why not try attending a home game. sctatchinghead You could well be the difference between 3 points and none. I am sure with your vast knowledge of football you could sit on the bench and advise our clueless management of the way to play attacking winning football. You could be the first 13th man ( supporter ) in football history to help get your team promoted. If you need a lift on Tuesday just give me a shout I am more than happy to help the club get more fans through the turnstiles. :roll:


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Didnt even bother watching it on the dodgy box, was so obvious what was going to happen yesterday, its reached the point of embarassment. Once again the best player in the division start of last season on the bench, a midfield devoid of any attacking ideas. We have got to be careful now or we are going to get dragged into a right mess very soon.


Why not try attending a home game. sctatchinghead You could well be the difference between 3 points and none. I am sure with your vast knowledge of football you could sit on the bench and advise our clueless management of the way to play attacking winning football. You could be the first 13th man ( supporter ) in football history to help get your team promoted. If you need a lift on Tuesday just give me a shout I am more than happy to help the club get more fans through the turnstiles. :roll:


Thanks for your offer ive already done every home game barring saturday, a trip to scarborough, south shields and Boston and unfortunately my footballing knowledge hasnt made much difference.Maybe look at the clueless manager why 500 plus are staying away and the chairmans ridiculous season ticket prices which certainly havent helped.


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Think it's a lot more than 500 like. Regarding the clueless manager or Rajs expensive season tickets prices I am afraid I have no real say in that matter. :roll:


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Our average attendance last season was about 4050 according to transfermkt website, after 5 games we're averaging 3899, so not too drastic a drop considering we've only played 1 northern team, the total away support adds up to about 600 odd, 4 home games on 4 consecutive Saturdays, and the football has been absolutely dire as a spectacle.


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Our average attendance last season was about 4050 according to transfermkt website, after 5 games we're averaging 3899, so not too drastic a drop considering we've only played 1 northern team, the total away support adds up to about 600 odd, 4 home games on 4 consecutive Saturdays, and the football has been absolutely dire as a spectacle.

Comparing the games to those last season: Southend 200 more fans this season than last (first game of the season attendance boost), Wealdstone 400 less this season, Halifax 400 less this season, Dagenham 700 less fans than last season. All the games last season were also on Weekends (Halifax was a Friday) and obviously Braintree weren't in our league. It took until 7th October against Eastleigh for a Saturday attendance to drop below 4000 fans last season, it happened on the 24th of August this year.


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Yeah but wasnt Gateshead one of our first home fixtures last season? And Halifax was a bank holiday Good Friday so would expect a boost.
For all the reasons I've mentioned our average at the moment is probably higher than we could reasonably expect.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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Best player in the division LAST SEASON the problem he has only showed flashes of it the season that’s why he is on the bench.


He has only showed flashes because of the way we play. Same can be said of manni d, the same can be said of a lad that played in a promotion winning team in league 2. Some managers get the best out of players, this guy clearly isnt.


No arguement from me.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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Best player in the division LAST SEASON the problem he has only showed flashes of it the season that’s why he is on the bench.


He has only showed flashes because of the way we play. Same can be said of manni d, the same can be said of a lad that played in a promotion winning team in league 2. Some managers get the best out of players, this guy clearly isnt.


No arguement from me.

he just isn,t a sarll type pf player and at times you think manni d is only in the team for his defensive capabilities.


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Surely if we lose or draw tonight they’ll have to play …’Road to Nowhere’ as the the final whistle blows.
A convincing win is needed to even hang on now.

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Surely if we lose or draw tonight they’ll have to play …’Road to Nowhere’ as the the final whistle blows.
A convincing win is needed to even hang on now.

followed by the final countdown. a win and the couple of happy clappers still about will be playing dreaming a dream again.


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If its a 0-0 draw they should play "Things Can Only Get Better"


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The thing is he's not beyond redemption if he recognises that we can play our way to wins rather than the kick and hope stuff.


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The thing is he's not beyond redemption if he recognises that we can play our way to wins rather than the kick and hope stuff.

Ah, the sinner who repenteth…I like it…God might be looking down thinks ……’Clinton Baptiste style’ …..hmmm 4-0 sounds like a good number…till we realise God lives in Rochdale…ah well. sadx

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If he turns things around and gets the team playing to their potential he'll be the new Messiah.
Unfortunately he's more likely to join a long list of false prophets.


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