We already are. We have been since the Kharkiv frontline opened up. Another one of many of Putins red lines crossed. All under the previous government to their credit. This is Starmers first test, deliberately set up by Putin as he weighs up our new government. He has sent out the right message as far as he can.

Well as he won’t be paying out the 2.5% defence increase he’s sent out the wrong message to him.

I would do 3%

4% for me, ALL the navy’s nuclear attack submarines are laid up for repairs….what a clusterfuck by all Party’s……

Si vis pacem, para bellum.

Let he who desires peace prepare for war.

Teddy Roosevelt said ‘Talk quietly and carry a big stick’ sums it up nicely for me.

We don't have a big stick and Starmer is being quite vocal. Not a strong position or image even.

so many brits think we have or should have and cannot wait to help giving the russian bear a bloody nose. the only question for me is would putin stop with ukraine or is it just a start like hitler with the sudetenland. people talk about the far right in this country but fail to remember that really exists in the ukraine.

Watched a clip on the news a Russian missile struck a civilian target not for the first time, how long can Russia be allowed to bomb the hell out of Ukraine not bothered wether its civilians who die or otherwise.Putin is a war criminal but never stops whinging if Ukraine sends a missile or 2 into Russia.

then bomber harris would have been first up for trial if we had lost WW2. history and who writes it will say who is a war criminal and who is a national hero.

Harris always carries the can for Dresden…yet the yanks shared the bombing with us at Dresden…and done at the request of the Russians as it had war industries and was a major rail junction in the path of the Red Army.

When the Russians use their Iranian missiles then that is potentially a NATO red line that leads to the use of our missiles. Putin will continue to cause chaos until he's stopped.