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 Post subject: Indoor market finally closes
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 2:43 pm 
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Made of RAAC apparently.

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 Post subject: Re: Indoor market finally closes
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 Post subject: Re: Indoor market finally closes
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But won’t they have used the same cement for the entire centre…. sctatchinghead
Knock it all down.
Get Lynn Street open :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Indoor market finally closes
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Agreed , I'd level the whole lot- the indoor market and the bit that dog legs around the corner towards King Johns has been shite since I was at Art College - and that's thirty years ago!

Only problem is- I'm fairly sure that the Indoor Market is a listed building - due to it being an example of 60's Brutalist Architecture - with it's concrete triangles- bit like the Passmore Pavilion up at Peterlee. Both blights on the landscape but I believe they're protected by English Heritage.


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Never liked the place.

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It's basically a concrete city and a totally horrible style and looks more like a WW2 bunker than any shopping mall. So much for forward thinking futuristic council planners. :roll:


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Leggie43 wrote:
It's basically a concrete city and a totally horrible style and looks more like a WW2 bunker than any shopping mall. So much for forward thinking futuristic council planners. :roll:

Remember the old feller saying about it that it was the bastard offspring of Councillors ego’s and Concrete manufacturers, a soulless wond tunnel to be avoided………his actual words were unprintable as Lynn Street and it’s many pubs was his idea of paradise alongside the many shops at hand.
Lynn Street today pedestrianised, would be perfect with loads of pubs, some converted to bars or restaurants….alongside the shops

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 Post subject: Re: Indoor market finally closes
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The days of town centre shopping in towns like Hartlepool is long gone when you can go to retail parks and get free parking. If the market hall is unsafe what about car park underneath as that would have been built first then the market above it. I think it’s a lame excuse to say it’s unsafe, fact is it’s uneconomical so using H&S as the reason for closing it.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
The days of town centre shopping in towns like Hartlepool is long gone when you can go to retail parks and get free parking. If the market hall is unsafe what about car park underneath as that would have been built first then the market above it. I think it’s a lame excuse to say it’s unsafe, fact is it’s uneconomical so using H&S as the reason for closing it.

it was hardly thriving anyway before it was partly closed even though there was the odd good business inside the place. if they flattened the whole place though you,ll get nostalgia coming up in 30 years time of people missing middleton grange and saying how good it was. know i,ll get blasted though for saying that the lynn street of the 60,s was not exactly up to date or the shopping experiance people made it out to be. even my parents who knew it well in the period between the wars said it was well past its best but what replaced it was the problem and not the redevelopment the town needed.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
The days of town centre shopping in towns like Hartlepool is long gone when you can go to retail parks and get free parking. If the market hall is unsafe what about car park underneath as that would have been built first then the market above it. I think it’s a lame excuse to say it’s unsafe, fact is it’s uneconomical so using H&S as the reason for closing it.

it was hardly thriving anyway before it was partly closed even though there was the odd good business inside the place. if they flattened the whole place though you,ll get nostalgia coming up in 30 years time of people missing middleton grange and saying how good it was. know i,ll get blasted though for saying that the lynn street of the 60,s was not exactly up to date or the shopping experiance people made it out to be. even my parents who knew it well in the period between the wars said it was well past its best but what replaced it was the problem and not the redevelopment the town needed.

The possibility was there for Lynn St as there was land around it to develop…..most towns were like that in the 60’s…the ‘ shopping experience’ was neither here nor there..it was always packed when my Nan took me down, having to walk in the road for the busy pavements were chocker.
The towns who hung on to their old streets and spurned the much trumpeted concrete wind tunnels are now popular destinations.

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Jamie1952 wrote:
The days of town centre shopping in towns like Hartlepool is long gone when you can go to retail parks and get free parking. If the market hall is unsafe what about car park underneath as that would have been built first then the market above it. I think it’s a lame excuse to say it’s unsafe, fact is it’s uneconomical so using H&S as the reason for closing it.


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Snowy wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
The days of town centre shopping in towns like Hartlepool is long gone when you can go to retail parks and get free parking. If the market hall is unsafe what about car park underneath as that would have been built first then the market above it. I think it’s a lame excuse to say it’s unsafe, fact is it’s uneconomical so using H&S as the reason for closing it.

it was hardly thriving anyway before it was partly closed even though there was the odd good business inside the place. if they flattened the whole place though you,ll get nostalgia coming up in 30 years time of people missing middleton grange and saying how good it was. know i,ll get blasted though for saying that the lynn street of the 60,s was not exactly up to date or the shopping experiance people made it out to be. even my parents who knew it well in the period between the wars said it was well past its best but what replaced it was the problem and not the redevelopment the town needed.

The possibility was there for Lynn St as there was land around it to develop…..most towns were like that in the 60’s…the ‘ shopping experience’ was neither here nor there..it was always packed when my Nan took me down, having to walk in the road for the busy pavements were chocker.
The towns who hung on to their old streets and spurned the much trumpeted concrete wind tunnels are now popular destinations.


Aye remember me mam taking me down when i was a nipper, Into the market cafe for CornedBeef Slice, Chips and gravy.
It certainly was chocka.


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 Post subject: Re: Indoor market finally closes
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Grayhoundend wrote:
Snowy wrote:
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Jamie1952 wrote:
The days of town centre shopping in towns like Hartlepool is long gone when you can go to retail parks and get free parking. If the market hall is unsafe what about car park underneath as that would have been built first then the market above it. I think it’s a lame excuse to say it’s unsafe, fact is it’s uneconomical so using H&S as the reason for closing it.

it was hardly thriving anyway before it was partly closed even though there was the odd good business inside the place. if they flattened the whole place though you,ll get nostalgia coming up in 30 years time of people missing middleton grange and saying how good it was. know i,ll get blasted though for saying that the lynn street of the 60,s was not exactly up to date or the shopping experiance people made it out to be. even my parents who knew it well in the period between the wars said it was well past its best but what replaced it was the problem and not the redevelopment the town needed.

The possibility was there for Lynn St as there was land around it to develop…..most towns were like that in the 60’s…the ‘ shopping experience’ was neither here nor there..it was always packed when my Nan took me down, having to walk in the road for the busy pavements were chocker.
The towns who hung on to their old streets and spurned the much trumpeted concrete wind tunnels are now popular destinations.


Aye remember me mam taking me down when i was a nipper, Into the market cafe for CornedBeef Slice, Chips and gravy.
It certainly was chocka.

it only was because people had no choice. there was no shopping experiance as its called today but something that was a bit of a chore that had to be done. if the area itself had not started to look as run down as it did it might have avoided the 60,s with its love of concrete and the area might have been better developed in a later period. think a lot has depended on the money in towns themselves and the ability to bring people into it as much as what period a town has been redeveloped in.


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 Post subject: Re: Indoor market finally closes
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Let's be honest shopping centres were just another way of councils producing parking revenue, whereas places on the outskirts or just outside of town are generally free to park , ensuring customers don't need to travel as far, congest town or city centres, and run around looking for a space and a parking meter.....win win surely.

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The only place I can park for free down the town is Screwfix, Charlie Dickens and ..
Morrell’s…what more shops could I need :laugh:

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I cannot see it listed on this below.
So lets see it raised to the ground asap.

https://britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/england/hartlepool

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Even the more modern centres like the Metrocentre are looking rundown and far less busy. Most people I know prefer Newcastle City Centre to going there, parking not an issue if you use the bus and good mix of shops, eateries, pubs, and other things to do. Can easily make a day of it whereas can't wait to get out of Metrocentre.
Town / City centres are the future, especially as motoring becomes more expensive and restrictive.


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PTID wrote:
Even the more modern centres like the Metrocentre are looking rundown and far less busy. Most people I know prefer Newcastle City Centre to going there, parking not an issue if you use the bus and good mix of shops, eateries, pubs, and other things to do. Can easily make a day of it whereas can't wait to get out of Metrocentre.
Town / City centres are the future, especially as motoring becomes more expensive and restrictive.

a lot is down to the current fashion of the time. the 60,s was all about modernisation with anything old deemed to be bad. then the out of town shopping centres became the thing with there supermarket type of approach with free parking and everything available in one spot. possibly they have run their course now as well and become a thing of the past where on line shopping could hit more than a town centre has.


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