Thought that

You need to wake up to reality mate.
All you get from burying your head in the sand is a gobful of sand.

Whatever you think the new government have their foot to the gas and i would not be surprised if there are a few things that are announced at the budget that no one expects.

‘Foot to the Gas’…sounds like Mad Max territury

Roll on 30th October for the "fireworks" or would it be better to have it on Halloween

And now people are ashamed to admit they voted for this heap of shit.
Ya sow what ya seed.
UTR.

Well if having their foot to the gas means they've taken it off the necks of the nation's pensioners then phew.
As for the budget the hot air coming out now is a sounding board to measure public opinion.
As for the budget when a politician admits to it going to be pain then I automatically upgrade that to super pain.
Surprises, oh we'll get surprises alright. There are around nine million citizens ready, willing and able already who can vouch for that scenario.

Single occupant council tax reduction will go . Another kick in the cobblers for pensioners .

They've had 14 years to get ready for government and yet they didn't do any impact assessment of the removal of the WFA. They've no plan for immigration. They're focusing on shit like smoking outside pubs while 18-24 year old unemployment and therefore loss of tax revenue is a huge issue. They said they were ready to hit the ground running but looks as if they've tripped over the start line.

Bollocks to that….. it’s me birthday on Halloween.

Looks like ‘hit the ground stumbling’.

Its being said today on twitter that people(single) who get council tax relief are going to lose it.

Not Me, Sir K is woke through and through.

When they say pain, They are of course exempt.

Twitter? Must be true then.

If labour do this then it will drive a lot of pensioners into the hands of the far right.

We will find out in October if not before, See ya then.
You did read the above poster The big red one that was off twitter also, Is it a lie, Just asking.
Glad you voted, For your saviour.

Worth up to £500 in some areas.We all know a pensioner who lives on his own and that's a lot to lose..I don't know how some Labour voters can sleep at night after voting this lot in.

The 'big red one' looks awfully Official.

Whilst I am not a supporter of the current Labour Party but after a couple of months people have forgotten what the Tories did to the country in their term with 6 different Prime Ministers one who nearly bankrupted the country, having to be bailed out by the Bank of England forcing interests rates up and devalued people’s pensions and another a liar even lying to the Queen.

Very short sighted, you will be calling for Sarl to be sacked next week after only a couple of months in the mid, you reap what you sow btw.

14 years of tory torture is chicken feed.
Compared to what This Lot are going to do over the next 5 years.

CEO, s of councils will be planning their early early retirements if this 25% discount to c tax gets scrapped.
Premium charges to the Black wheelie bins next as well as the already brown bin.

Maybe 5:03pm Saturday if it's more pts dropped thru anutha
Short sighted.

That’s history now…..new chapter, the page turned so to speak and if the Tory’s were pulling these strokes the people saying nothing would be incandescent and fuming……you could call them two tier voters.

two keir voters you mean.

not just for pensioners but every single person who gets screwed with paying extra for a single room when on holiday.

nothing actually has happened yet which is our only hope. are the media building things up to be so bad that if the budget isn,t quite as bad as we think it we will be relieved and happy even though it will still be costing us more. think its a wait and see and keeping our powder dry till its announced.

I think they are deliberately going overboard with the scare mongering for two reasons.
1. Sounding us out to gauge public reaction.

2. Giving the impression of heavy pain but watering it down at the budget announcement, claiming to be listening to reaction.

There is going to be a vote in Parliament over the WFA, which the government will win easily but then they might water down the effect to give the compassionate impression.

I was astonished when Reeves said but we are keeping the triple lock, which their manifesto promised they would do.
That is like saying we are taking the bacon off your plate (WFA) but don't worry we'll let you keep the egg (triple lock).

Labour MPs are getting jittery over this WFA vote as record of which way they voted will be in the public domain. Their inboxes are already heavy with pensioner rage but it is nothing to what they are going to get should they vote for the removal of WFA.

If the coming winter is a harsh one there are pensioners, especially those living on their own, who's health could be seriously affected or they may even die. If and when that happens the cry of MURDERERS will ring loudly across the land.

Already pensioners who I know are talking of taking turns to meet in each others houses so that they can reduce energy costs.

What a sorry state of affairs we have let ourselves into by electing this lot.

Yesterday I heard two young Mums discussing these affairs and one said "I voted for them but I never thought they would do what they are doing or what is forecast they are going to do. I'm beginning to think I have made a big mistake. I really hope they have a major rethink" The other one said simply " Me too".

Are we going to see a mass migration of pensioners leaving their homes and their independence to go and live with their kids. Don't rule it out.

They could go back to poll tax were every adult in a single household pays. No need to screw the oaps n single occupiers.

Personally I’m willing to give the new government a chance, however when I saw that daft Labour MP saying they had to do it (and cut fuel allowance) otherwise they’d “crash the economy” I thought it was utterly ridiculous.

This fuel thing is a stupid, mean, ill thought out policy.

That went well.

Don't organise riots/protests.
Then again
3 meals a day with Internet Bunker access
Air con cells.
Maybe Pools on IPTV if you behave.

it didn,t because they never thought about peoples ability to pay. it was fine for a couple who both worked and anybody single but a disaster for those who had schoolleavers on a pittance you ended up having to pay for yourself.

GREAT BRITAIN in the 21st Centuary. hip hip hooray.

Its not ridiulous, Its Lies.

You should take up a profession as a clairvoyant as you appear to know what the future holds, no one knows as history shows.

If the incoming Labour government and the Office of Budget Responsibility was deceived and that lead to the £20B black hole being discovered then should not members of the last government be prosecuted?

If it was last season some of the matches could have been used as punishments.

No one’s been deceived and no one will be prosecuted .

But why do it in the first place
What planet are they orbiting…?
It’s a bit like a mugger pulling a gun on you, taking your wallet, then giving you a fiver back of your own money and hoping that improves the ‘mugging experience’ for you………..DON’T DO IT….in the first place….because you’ve already marked yourself as someone prepared to do the dirty on people

[quote="Snowy"][quote="kevin pooles gloves"][quote="derwent"][quote="accrington fan"]nothing actually has happened yet which is our only hope. are the media building things up to be so bad that if the budget isn,t quite as bad as we think it we will be relieved and happy even though it will still be costing us more. think its a wait and see and keeping our powder dry till its announced.[/quote]

I think they are deliberately going overboard with the scare mongering for two reasons.
1. Sounding us out to gauge public reaction.

2. Giving the impression of heavy pain but watering it down at the budget announcement, claiming to be listening to reaction.

There is going to be a vote in Parliament over the WFA, which the government will win easily but then they might water down the effect to give the compassionate impression.

I was astonished when Reeves said but we are keeping the triple lock, which their manifesto promised they would do.
That is like saying we are taking the bacon off your plate (WFA) but don't worry we'll let you keep the egg (triple lock).

Labour MPs are getting jittery over this WFA vote as record of which way they voted will be in the public domain. Their inboxes are already heavy with pensioner rage but it is nothing to what they are going to get should they vote for the removal of WFA.

If the coming winter is a harsh one there are pensioners, especially those living on their own, who's health could be seriously affected or they may even die. If and when that happens the cry of MURDERERS will ring loudly across the land.

Already pensioners who I know are talking of taking turns to meet in each others houses so that they can reduce energy costs.

What a sorry state of affairs we have let ourselves into by electing this lot.

Yesterday I heard two young Mums discussing these affairs and one said "I voted for them but I never thought they would do what they are doing or what is forecast they are going to do. I'm beginning to think I have made a big mistake. I really hope they have a major rethink" The other one said simply " Me too".

Are we going to see a mass migration of pensioners leaving their homes and their independence to go and live with their kids. Don't rule it out.[/quote]

Don't organise riots/protests.
Then again
3 meals a day with Internet Bunker access
Air con cells.
Maybe Pools on IPTV if you behave.
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If it was last season some of the matches could have been used as punishments. [/quote]

My get a few Pools players as cell mates if they don't calm down.

Avoid the Waterfall Wing.