As for points mean prizes…it’s a fact of life…most points wins the prize.
It’s a very basic concept, but I can do pictograms for you If you can’t interpret the meaning.
Happy to help.

Doh, so do I ….keep in touch.

You’re my favourite Snowy.

Who's said Dodds, Sloggett and Charman won't play next game?
Charman injury looked bad at the time of the 1st tackle but interestingly he sat on the bench when he went off rather than going to dressing room so hopefully not too bad.
Waterfall was absolutely brainless so will open the door for Sass Davies to get game time.

Here lads, reality is Pools game today was a crap spectacle. Not a single dime of football was played, terrible standard. We live in hope but good grief that wasn’t worth the admission fee or the 3 hour journey home. Up the bloody Pools, more required. 4 points on the board. Let’s go.

The strategy it seems is capitalize on the oppo mistakes/hope our better players grab something out of nowt…in fairness Campbell free kick a few inches different and it would have got 3 points
Fans will be fine with this if it gets us results but we will be rough to watch if we go 1 down

Agreed but I can assure you that a completion rate of 15% on passes will not win you or get you promoted out of this league. Yeovil - good result. Today - a poor performance. Southend should have dispatched us and didn’t. Phillips style is so different but I hope Sarll has us getting somewhat of a foot on the ball in the coming weeks. Pass completion stats like that really are quite poor given we’re the home team. Dixon’s kicking didn’t help, lots of ‘wow that’s bad’ moments on show today. Now tell me how often you saw that under DC. It’s all about standards and levels. I think we’ve got it in the locker by the way, but a lot to do.

I was frustrated we didnt try and play more football in their half, but the times we did we made mistakes.

The philosophy is clearly to get it into 'areas' either by long balls or Charman and Grey carrying it.
Campbell looks a decent player--and Mani D had a good game but can see him getting frustrated at lack of chances created---early days and maybe Sloggett will make a a difference
I saw a lot of the players trying to talk Mancini through his role--he certainly doesnt suit this relentless pressing but had a couple of pieces of isolated quality beyond others.

Sarll confirmed Charman and Dodds wont make Tuesday--and if Sloggett couldnt make the bench today he wont be starting in 3 days.

Wouldnt be surprised if others aren't knackered/need resting as well-be good to manage mancini minutes but good luck with that--we either play him from the start or stick featherstone in and play more defensively--still its not like we have 2 games a week for most of the next 3 months is it .....

Have your fun lads get stuck into that crap manager and crap team. Where were you last weekend with those negative comments If I was a casual vister to this site I would be thinking you are Darlow fans in disguise. But you do have a cause to moan because we are unbeaten with 4 points and no goals against. Sack the manager and the team infact close the whole club down immediately.

Whose having a pop?

I am just sayng what I said at the start of the season ... the team is obvsiously woefully short of numbers and will get exposed unless we get the right number and quality of players in---thats not on the team thats on those in charge of the purse strings

Its all about standards. If fans are happy at not creating a chance all game then great. Maybe we are going through great times like the clubs trying to make out. Certain things have improved new manager bounce who knows, but other things havent some just dont seem to grasp that or want to hear it. Id like to see some sort of performance at tamworth on tuesday i dont think thats asking too much for a club having good days like now.

Yes let’s go out and get two or three quality players. The answer so simple isn’t it. Well some seem to think it is.

But Loyal every supporter knows fine well we need more bodies in. But you are going on and on and on with the same record. Let the manager do the team thinking and recruitment and if nothing happens and the results go tits up I will ride alongside you shooting bullets at the whole bloody club.

We are playing part-timers on Tuesday so if we cannot impose our fit and physical style on them, it does not bode well for the future.
Come on Pools, bring home the 3 points and get into the playoff mix.

Its not simple but teams on 1k crowds are seeming to manage it again so im not sure why we cant eventually at some point hit the jackpot.

you say everyone knows but comments on here have included stuff along the lines of 'whats the point of filling the bench' and 'we will get some in later whats the hurry'-
We have a piss easy start and it will be a shame if being short on numbers leads us to throwing away points

I agree we should be winning these games. But they have played one home game and drawn 1-1 with a strong full time Sutton team so nothing is granted. Otherwise we would never get a shock result period.

Dodds is out for a few weeks at least.

hopefully Madine and another wide fwd in this week--that's a minumum--another CM would also be nice so we can rotate properly as this pressing style will take its toll

Where did you get that info billy

Was on radio tees before the game hamstring or something, which is no surprise after such a bad injury. Id be surprised if he plays agian with the next month.

OK thanks for your info. Can I say I asked about Doddsy before the game and was told its just a slight strain and should be fine. Let's hope that information is correct.

Sarll gave t away post match--seemed to infer week to 10 days before he's training again--will want to be careful given his history--at least the club moved quick to bring Freeman in

Sarll gave t away post match--seemed to infer week to 10 days before he's training again--will want to be careful given his history--at least the club moved quick to bring Freeman in[/quote]

Yes you spot on Loyal. But it doesn't appear to be serious so let's hope that is the case.

Yes it’s not a ballet of football, it’s as subtle as a dive bomber, but if it works, I’ll not argue…we have to get out of this league.

Not sure which game Billy was at or watched in tv if he thinks we didn't create a chance all game?
Off the top of my head we hit the post with the keeper beaten hands down, Campbell had a shot saved first half, Fergy had a shot on target. Or was I dreaming?
It definitely wasn't pretty but neither side tried to play much passing football.

We had campbells shot after their defence messed up a long ball (playing %s) and Campbell free kick after their defender messed up and fouled mani d (playing %s)
I genuinely don’t recall Ferguson shot

So 2 shots , 1 on target pretty much all match, albeit with 10 men for half the game (in fairness I think we punted a couple over the bar 2nd half from 30 yds)

We are a work in progress and Sarll deserves credit for toughening us up and improving us defensively…but to do anything this year it has to be more creative than relentless punts fwd and hoping the oppo fuck up

I’m not even my own favourite, even the dogs need a treat to come out with me…bastards….

Fergy had a free kick which wasn't brilliant but was definitely on target. Think there were a couple of other soft ones their keeper easily stopped too. Definitely think their keeper actually made more saves than Dixon too.

Yeah i must of nodded off cos it sounds like we created chances left right and centre now. Like i said hardly created a thing if anything shots that have fallen to you or free kicks arent really creating from creative football, infact did we actually put 3 passes together all game.

Funny how you creep out of the woodwork when things don't go our way, you're one of life's miserabalists I honestly don't get you, you get a hard on for the negative.
Have you ever thought of staying at home on a Saturday afternoon and watching midsomer murders? Call John nettles an arseole for not solving the murder in the first five minutes? It might be a way forward.

Was going to defend billkngham poolie but that John nettles line had me pissing myself

I get the feeling if we actually finished top this season (footballs about hope, or what is the fucking point),there’d be some who’d still be critical of some bizarre aspect of our success.
I notice when things are good there’s still a low level grudging Chunter but a draw or defeat releases a tsunami size ejaculation of orgasmic grief….I find it all very funny actually, me ribs still sore from laughing.
This does not apply to ‘Loyal’..he’s just a lovely lad who cares too much.

Right, the Douthend game.On past seasons we’d have lost that game after the sending off…..we have been conditioned by various previous managers to play the game like the big boys without the ability, result ….failure.
We finally get a manager who has decided to build a proper team to instill discipline and a team ethos to achieve his goals.
We’ve played two games,, not conceded, played battling football, and got three points despite the sending off.
He’s decided he’s gonna battle his way out of this division so hang for the ride and if your genteel afternoon tea style senses are appalled ..tough titty.
The dream of flowing delightful football ain’t ever going to happen and even Challinor was getting pelters of the ‘Salon des critiques acerbes’ of the tantrum element, so I never take the taxing jet engine whining seriously, it’s just a communal belch from the confused.
Time for walkies.

we didn,t at the top end of the pitch for certain. at the moment we do look hard to beat and unless we sign a another good attacking midfielder i can see this side picking up more away than home wins for a change. its only one game but i doubt a few similar ones will see new fans rushing down to the vic to watch more dour encounters like that with most of the play concentrated between both penalty areas.

3995 posts and you claim ive come out of the woodwork. Not the brightest of comments that is it really? Was the game dreadful to watch? Ask yourself that? Did we create anything of note baring in mind we are the home team? So you will be quite happy to watch this week in week out even when we lose games which we will?

Some of our fans really are clueless. If you just want to look for positives in that performance then we really are happy with anything.

Like ive said their are many positives to take still but lets not wash over how shit and boring that game was.

You do realise we will need to create chances and win matches in order to win the league?

We were the better side 1st half and it looked like a goal was coming for us. We were getting stronger and imposing ourselves as the half went on.
If putting defenders under pressure to make mistakes is not creative then what is it? As in tennis there's a difference between enforced and unenforced errors.
2nd half was obviously a different game entirely with the early sending off. Even so I think we had more shots on target than they did.
We've finally got a midfield which offers great protection to the defence and 2 clean sheets and 4 points from 6 is a good position to build from.

Yes i was definately watching a different game then. I think judging by how the life of the ground got sucked out of them after about 20 minutes, they might of been watching the same game too.

Billy we hit the post 1st half, Campbell had a shot saved 1st half, easy to forget the positives and focus on the negatives isn't it?
Fans are not clueless just because they watch the whole of a game rather than shutting out any and all good stuff or because they have a different opinion to you.
How many saves did Dixon have to make btw?
Did you expect us to play anything other than attritional football after the sending off?
Did you note how poor the referee was in terms of consistency- Waterfall booked for dissent there fella not, Mani D had his shirt almost pulled off over his head at every attempt at a header?
A good point at the end and an excellent defensive display in difficult circumstances. Now we need to build and hopefully play more attacking and free flowing football when we're up against less physical sides.

First of all ive said their were positives, plenty from the first two games. Holding out against 10 men, good point no matter what.

But come on your now making out like we created loads of stuff and southend created nowt, this wasnt the case. The first half was as bad as the second. Yes we hit the post with a good free kick and to be honest that was about it, southend had nothing either. Second half southend missed a sitter and had 3 efforts just inches wide. Would you have been so positive if one or two had gone in. I expected us to be attritional after the sending off i dont think i expected us to be attritional all game though. As first games go that was dreadful no matter what positive spins fans try to make of that match.

Like ive also said if we are bored to death and win the league so be it great, the manager will of done brilliantly, but if we play in that way at Tamworth and lose i doubt fans would be anywhere near as forgiving.

thats the problem when you are getting points out of tight games playing the type of football we are playing. great when we are not losing but sheer hell if we are not. do hope it all works out for sarll as i for one want to see him suceed with us for his sake as well as ours.

The concern is mani d and mancini lads we thought we were building a team around, havent really had a sniff first two games. If were building from the back great, but things will soon turn if we lose for etc tuesday.

I expect us to win Tuesday its not all doom and gloom but if we didnt and we play dull boring football fans will soon turn on the manager playing this style

Two games in and giving ultimatums and putting your parachute on.

Who is giving ultimatums? Jumping to conclusions again. Anybody with a brain knows the fans that slated askey wont be happy with this style of play if results take a turn

Think the majority are happy at the result if not the style of play, but needs must and the clean sheet and point is welcome.
Some on the Southend forum saying they'd have bitten your arm off if they'd been offered a point at half time so a different perspective there.
It's going to be a hard watch at times this season that's for sure but I'd prefer to see a hard fought 0-0 than previous seasons keep ball in our own defensive third of the pitch.
2 turning points for me was losing the pace and width that Charman was giving us down the left and obviously the sending off.
Hopefully a better watch and result on Tuesday, but I'll take just the result as long as it's a win.

all this winning ugly is fine for those really committed to the club and will turn up when they can no matter what. just cannot see attendances going up if that becomes the norm which is whats needed to strengthen the side with the extra revenue coming in.