if we are in the top 4 some will not be satisfied at that and the old thing of a club our size it should be expected. still feel there will be more posts on here if we lose rather than win a game. for some weird reason some seem more happy when this has happened and revel in adversity.

People question the competence of those that run our club and hold Gateshead up as exemplars? The club that hasn't sorted a ground out to allow them to reap the benefit of their rewards - getting chucked out of the play offs was down to incompetence wasn't it. Imagine if that had been us?

Well said.

Not organisational. All to do with resources. That club is doing something seriously right to put out play off capable teams. Yeah fair enough we have our ground and plenty of people in it but that's no good if they are all witnessing fiasco after fiasco.

Hopefully we can turn fiasco into fiesta come May 2025.

Yes please

If that happened here the Samaritans would have been doing 24 hour shifts , the sound of Whining and groaning would be audible to the passing Amsterdam Ferry 20 miles off shore , and the Urgent Care Centre at the General would be swamped with cases of chronic hand wringing, sore throats from screaming ‘I told you so’ syndrome ……then there’s the standard issue mob of torch and pitchfork Gumbies out looking for vengeance…..and this place deserted.

Too beacoup Snowy, too beacoup.

Imagine losing 7-1 to such an incompetant club.

Boom.

Imagine getting a hard on about it...

Imagine the players and fans celebrating reaching the play offs only to be thrown out because the owners and directors didn't bother their arses to make sure they met the criteria for actually playing in the play offs? Despite thrashing us 7-1, although they couldn't avoid defeat against our 10 men at the Vic.
Losing a game versus losing the play off chance now which would you rather?

You need to read more into it. It wasn't really the clubs fault. I'll put it this way, I wouldn't swap our ground with theirs, nor our fan-base and I wouldn't want the bad luck they've had with their local authority but their skill at making the most out of limited resources? Well I would take that all day long as it by far exceeds ours.

Of course it was the clubs fault they were aware of the rules and didn't act to ensure compliance with those rules. It's not for the local council to ensure Gateshead Football Club follow NL rules its 100% their owners and directors at fault.

Your mocking a club that last year made us look like mugs. They reached the play offs potentially could of won them and also reached a final of a cup comp. Now im not sure anyone knows the inns and outs of who is to blame but most blamed their local labour council for dropping them in the shit.

They made mugs of us at their place when we had the barebones of a team to put out but we made mugs out of them at the Vic playing most of the game with 10 men and limiting them to virtually no clear cut chances then caught them with the late sucker counter punch.
The council are not responsible for the club not following the rules, by all accounts the club were well aware of the issue in December but did nothing to address it. As I said if it was us there's some on here who would have wanted Raj's head on spike above the club entrance.
And, as far as I'm aware they still haven't sorted a ground lease to allow them to play in this seasons play offs - incompetence, mismanagement, or what?

Would I swap places with Gateshead…no….and this whole argument is nonsense .They’re like a Ferrari with wheel clamps on each wheel, so …..revving up and making an impact ….. but going nowhere.
Personally I don’t like any club beating my team, I neither admire them or want to be them, because I want my team to humiliate them…only more so.
It’s called supporting your team.

I remember that game at the Vic. They looked like a good side and it was a hard fought victory. It's clear they genuinely were a good side

Even away from the ground thing, (which is debatable) they are doing things better than us, achieving more with less. It's fine to concede this PTID.

It's just about admiring what they've achieved that's all. In Lincoln, you can't go anywhere without seeing Imps badges and merchandise. It's not a big place but they've managed to quite deliberately put their stamp on the whole city. I admire that, my club could learn from this.

The rules for ALL leagues for gaining promotion up the ladder, Are clearly stated and understood.
I should know.

No body dropped them in the shit as you put it, The criteria is CLEAR and SIMPLE
It is up to club officials to have EVERYTHING IN PLACE, That does NOT include
Word of mouth or spoken promises.

I think there's more to it than simply knowing the rules. There was clearly an element of the ability to follow the rules being taken out of their hands. Plus, it's still besides the point.

Of course I agree they had a much better season than us, the league table doesn't lie. And that's testament to their scouting, recruiting, and coaching staff in the main.
But it's also fine to concede the ground issue is a huge embarrassment and barrier to future success and that is down to the owners and board. If they can't get what's required why not look for a ground share.
We are a club with massive potential as is often pointed out on here, they are a club with no potential stuck in the doldrums of the NL unless and until they sort out the ground issue. In fact they could be in even greater jeopardy if the incoming arena management company decide to price them out of a new short term lease even or worst case don't renew their lease at all.
Genuine question would you accept their owner and board at Pools?

I can agree with all that except for our potential being massive…..good, but not massive.
You can measure any clubs potential by the crowds they get when like us, they’ve been stumbling along like a drunken sailor.
Beats the 1500 hundred crowds we used to get when I attended first matches and 2000 was a wet dream.
Trouble with the town is half of the people are brilliant and the other half are apathetic Gumbies.

the town is no different from any other. like it or not those who attend or will ever attend games are a small percentage of the towns population. football is a turn off for many and it would be interesting how many would travel to wembley if we ever get their or watch us on the box apart from family members and friends of the fans.

Maybe we should look at how they are doing things on crowds of 1000 because we act like a club like that.

No hard on but i appreciate a bloody good side that ripped us apart and got to a final and sold loads of players on the back of it, no doubt they will probobly manage something similar again this year.

Back at Pools things have been so bad a good proportion of our fans get hard ons over signing a player, imagine that? A football club signing a player.

Any club that can pull in 4500 to 5500 fans on the back of nothing but years of struggle have massive potential, let alone talk about some of the followings we take to clubs. If a money man came to pools built a ground like donny not that id want a donny type ground we would straight away put another couple of thousand on the gate, it happens at every other club thats done it and it would happen here.

If Pools had got to a final and then sold loads of players would you be saying never mind we'll do it again next season or would you be jumping up and down questioning the club's lack of ambition by selling their best players.
As for hard ons, some people would consider unearthing yet another negativity has more potential in stirring your blood.

It would be nice to reach a final i guess, we got rid of our best players when we got promoted so we should be used to getting rid of our best players, id expect nothing else, its quite remarkable we have still got manny d . We have lacked ambition for years so are we not just immune to that now?

I guess you could be right maybe negativity does stir the blood, but on the other hand maybe incompetitance and mediocrity stirs others. Tough one that.

Before we get to any finals we need to learn to beat national league south and north sides, we have found that a bit tricky recently.

I’d love to see it happen, trouble is the dream seems to be further away than ever.

You appear to be dying to get rid of Mani D. Would that be the master negative coup for you??? Do you see Mani D as a thwarting factor in your ambition to get us to NLN.
As for getting rid of our best players after getting promoted. Armstrong wasn't our player and Oates wanted to be nearer home. More than one eyebrow was raised when he returned in the first place. James wasn't our player and Johnson had already done a deal with Port Vale whether we got promoted or not.
Was getting promoted four years ago a lack of ambition. If it was then our current aim of getting to the EFL isn't ambition either.

Plus Oates was offered a guarantee of div2 football which we couldn't match due to being in NL when he accepted their offer, not due to any lack of ambition.

they wont be the same team as last season put it that way - The goal threat they had well both have gone.
one of their best mids has gone and yet to see who they have replaced him with.

given they will have some decent signings and no doubt loan players too i dont think they will do as well as last season.

until this bollox is all sorted out they will always have it in the back of their minds hanging over them - playing for nothing really

I appear to be dying to get rid of mani d a 20 goal striker well ive heard some idotic stuff but thats up there anyone can say what their aim is how about they back it up?

The most ridiculous thing said in this thread is "a good proportion of our fans get a hard on over signing a player". When did that happen?

The rules will have been in place for a number of years, With regard to it being taken out of their hands,
Guess they cannot of had a plan B, And which is worse than nothing in writing.

Club officials fault.

Most people are looking forward to seeing Mani perform but Billy is wondering if the club are going to get rid of him. It's not the first time either. Mr Negativity to the core.
Billy it happens regularly. Players get coveted by other clubs. If Mani goes on then so be it. In the meantime let's just focus on what he can do for us.
When I drive home I wonder what is nice for tea but Billy thinks I bet there's crap for tea or no tea at all.
Negative Twat.

I like your Swagger, Mr Derwent.

PS: Don,t tell any one.

Not quite the whole story though. The point I was trying to make about Gateshead doing stuff a lot better than us and is being able to learn from them has been conceded though and that's all I was trying to say. I admire what they achieved and think we could learn from it. That's it. That's all.

Order, order…I have been sent in to ask for a ceasefire between the two tribes….anymore exchanges of fire and we’ll bomb yer.
Phew…..

Laser guided or GPS?

Laser guided…..it has that arcade game chic….a 4.5” from off shore is a popular option, providing I can have the cartridge cases for scrap.

I'd best start collecting some tyres to burn for me smokescreen.

Nah, just burn the accounts, that’ll do.

Yep, red ink creates quite a smokey flame

i,d expect any club at our level to sell their version of mani d if somebody came in with a stupid bid for them they could not refuse. there are not many clubs that are not selling clubs outside the top few in the premier league so why should pools be an exception. the thing is we must be a selling club and not a give away club.

As well as that, is it right to stand in someone's way. Look at Charman, he said his contract was up at Fylde and so decided to see what else was out there before considering staying where he was. Nothing sinister about it, it simply happens.
I would be very surprised if our friendlies haven't attracted scouts looking at Mani and he continues to score goals. Yes the oppostion has to be taken into account, we all know that, but the target still has to be found, whatever the level.

Can't be a blinkered approach. Small clubs thrive by selling as the right price and often the players do too. We've got to be forward leaning with the contract renewal though or the price is a big fat zero.