Election oddity

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7062

Before Reform try to win a G.E. they need to get the right candidates, 30p Lee might do ok up north but he wouldn’t survive down south. Reform employed a company to find candidates but even Farage said some of the candidates left a lot to be desired.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18916

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

PTID wrote:

The only way Reform will fade away will be if they merge with the Tories. They're more likely to get stronger as more Tory voters look for a new home as their party continues to fragment as yet another leadership contest takes place.

Labour only got in because of highly pathetic the tories were.
Probably be the same at the next GE for Reform to get in.
Was it anutha 700 migrants crossed the channel yesterday.
The public will soon get sick of Starmers Give us time to clean up 14 years of mess. Blah Blah Blah.

they will in the same way as when the tories got into power and bleat about how labour trashed the economy again. one of the reason why the turnout was so low. people are just sick of politics the way they are now.

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:47 am

Jamie1952 wrote:

Sussex UK wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Bluestreak wrote:

It will be interesting to see who of the smaller parties gets the most air time by the press and broadcasters.
Will Reform get the same amount as the Greens with the same number of seats?

I think the spotlight will be on Starmer and the Labour every move being digested and also the election for the new Conservative leader. Reform and the others will fade into the background.

Fade away into the background ?? I think it's this Wednesday he takes centre stage at Parliament mr j...Bet his pint is going down well today eh :obscene-drinkingcheers:

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Why would he take centre stage, he isn’t the PM or the leader of the opposition, what’s he going to say that we haven’t heard before, he will complain how unfair the voting atstem is which ain’t going to change and how Labour propose to stop the boats. With 5 MPs Reform don’t have any power or real say in Parliament, will30p Lee be allowed to speak, he is a loose cannon, he will be kept under a tight rein by Reform.

Reform is a limited company owned by Tice & Farage, it has no apparatus to keep anyone under control, it is simply a vehicle to get into power using immigration (subtle racism) as its lever and make a bit of money.
Please do some research on these people.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7062

Bluestreak wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Sussex UK wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Bluestreak wrote:

It will be interesting to see who of the smaller parties gets the most air time by the press and broadcasters.
Will Reform get the same amount as the Greens with the same number of seats?

I think the spotlight will be on Starmer and the Labour every move being digested and also the election for the new Conservative leader. Reform and the others will fade into the background.

Fade away into the background ?? I think it's this Wednesday he takes centre stage at Parliament mr j...Bet his pint is going down well today eh :obscene-drinkingcheers:

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Why would he take centre stage, he isn’t the PM or the leader of the opposition, what’s he going to say that we haven’t heard before, he will complain how unfair the voting atstem is which ain’t going to change and how Labour propose to stop the boats. With 5 MPs Reform don’t have any power or real say in Parliament, will30p Lee be allowed to speak, he is a loose cannon, he will be kept under a tight rein by Reform.

Reform is a limited company owned by Tice & Farage, it has no apparatus to keep anyone under control, it is simply a vehicle to get into power using immigration (subtle racism) as its lever and make a bit of money.
Please do some research on these people.

I agree they are using immigration to get into power but also some Truss economics, It does have the apparatus just stop them from standing as an MP under the banner of Reform.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3918

Controlling immigration is not racist, it's protecting the country for everyone who legitimately has a right to live here, the only Istanbul or ism is nationalist or nationalism.
Almost all of our public services are broken and can't cope, accepting more folk who offer nothing but burden services even more will lead to carnage.
Considering Reform are relatively new their share of the vote would indicate they've got a decent grasp of what the general population are concerned about. Lose the extremism factions and they'll thrive.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7062

One of the reasons we have so much immigration is we don’t have enough skilled tradesmen, when the industrial base was destroyed we lost all the places where apprentices were trained up. Some of the larger companies prefer immigration as they don’t have to pay the recognised rates of pay with threats of having their visa revoked if they complain.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18916

Jamie1952 wrote:

One of the reasons we have so much immigration is we don’t have enough skilled tradesmen, when the industrial base was destroyed we lost all the places where apprentices were trained up. Some of the larger companies prefer immigration as they don’t have to pay the recognised rates of pay with threats of having their visa revoked if they complain.

surely they cannot pay different rates of pay depending where a person has come from. think it would be the smaller sweat shop companies that want immegration to happen. funny how these type of places seem to get ignored when locals know they are in existance.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

accrington fan wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

One of the reasons we have so much immigration is we don’t have enough skilled tradesmen, when the industrial base was destroyed we lost all the places where apprentices were trained up. Some of the larger companies prefer immigration as they don’t have to pay the recognised rates of pay with threats of having their visa revoked if they complain.

surely they cannot pay different rates of pay depending where a person has come from. think it would be the smaller sweat shop companies that want immegration to happen. funny how these type of places seem to get ignored when locals know they are in existance.

They are paid lower rates, which is out of order.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

accrington fan wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

PTID wrote:

The only way Reform will fade away will be if they merge with the Tories. They're more likely to get stronger as more Tory voters look for a new home as their party continues to fragment as yet another leadership contest takes place.

Labour only got in because of highly pathetic the tories were.
Probably be the same at the next GE for Reform to get in.
Was it anutha 700 migrants crossed the channel yesterday.
The public will soon get sick of Starmers Give us time to clean up 14 years of mess. Blah Blah Blah.

they will in the same way as when the tories got into power and bleat about how labour trashed the economy again. one of the reason why the turnout was so low. people are just sick of politics the way they are now.

They’re both a ‘Bag o shite’.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8913

Slightly off topic.
Biden calling vlenski PUTIN at the conference yesterday.
Comical

but could lead to WW3 if this guy wins the presidential race.
And Starmer licking his arse!.

It's on its way!!

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