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 Post subject: Re: Aldershot Predictions
PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:45 am 
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Not a vintage performance but we are certainly more dogged(except Gateshead) these days. Lots of good blocks and headers today and they didn't get through on too many occasions. We don't have the players to really press sides so maintaining a good shape is obviously the tactic just now. Parkes was quality again today,MOM for me but the whole back 4 did well. Special mention to Pete Jameson today, a few wayward kicks into the wind aside he had a great game, some vital saves and is a far far better keeper than Dixon in my eyes. Change the midfield, get Dodds back fit and inject some pace then we could be better next season.

if jameson had not had some poor games earlier in the season he,d have never lost his place. felt like an away game for me where they had the ball in our last third much more than we did to them. suppose for those who just want a win and nothing else they,d be the happy ones. need more midfield control and play more in the opponents last third for me. the main difference between the gateshead game and yesterdays was an inch either way. everything gateshead did came off and everything aldershot did was either blocked or got deflected. cannot remember their keeper making a single save apart from one shot by cooke that went straight at him. if i was an aldershot fan i,d be thinking how the hell did we lose that far more than i thought how didn,t we beat rochdale a few days previously. wins can disguise problems far more than defeats do.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:01 am 
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It's nice to win but it was a frustrating watch in the second half, we need players who take the game to the opposition.


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It's nice to win but it was a frustrating watch in the second half, we need players who take the game to the opposition.

yes, the goals and the win was all i got out of yesterdays game. not much for the admission fee. hope for a more succesful 2024/5 season but not to the expense of wins and games like that every week to do it though. really have not seen a memorable home game since the early days of KP management.


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 Post subject: Re: Aldershot Predictions
PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:31 am 
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if i was an aldershot fan i,d be thinking how the hell did we lose that far more than i thought how didn,t we beat rochdale a few days previously. wins can disguise problems far more than defeats do.

Saw the post match interview from what I assume was a coach for Aldershot who applauded their play, but……they(Pools) scored two goals we didn’t …was how he summed it up.
Let’s be brutal, if we’d battered a side and got beat 2-0 we’d get pelters in their position, no one says ‘tough luck’…because in all honesty, points mean prizes, not performances.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:58 am 
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Snowy wrote:
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RichyHpool wrote:
if i was an aldershot fan i,d be thinking how the hell did we lose that far more than i thought how didn,t we beat rochdale a few days previously. wins can disguise problems far more than defeats do.

Saw the post match interview from what I assume was a coach for Aldershot who applauded their play, but……they(Pools) scored two goals we didn’t …was how he summed it up.
Let’s be brutal, if we’d battered a side and got beat 2-0 we’d get pelters in their position, no one says ‘tough luck’…because in all honesty, points mean prizes, not performances.


Give it a rest will you, christ. Points mean prizes :laugh: in our situation, I can confirm, they do not. We shitfested a 2-0 win, played terribly but will take my hat off to 3 clean sheets at home on the bounce as that is a good record. Performances I’m afraid do matter and Aldershot are a better, more dynamic and exciting team than the current Hartlepool incumbent. If the same team started next season they would still be perennial losers. Time for change. And all 3 midfielders need scrapping.

I long for the day you just agree with someone rather than being an utter nuisance at all times. Maybe take a day off the internet pal, it’s clearly not for you. :character-smurfguy:


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KP got slated after the Gateshead disaster but give him credit for the fighting spirit that has been injected since. KP, Parkes and Waterfall will do for me!

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dstanley5 wrote:
KP got slated after the Gateshead disaster but give him credit for the fighting spirit that has been injected since. KP, Parkes and Waterfall will do for me!

plus a few others as well. we do not really know how we will play next season and the type of team we,ll become. only time will tell if we are a 1 nil to the pools poundshop arsenal or a more expansive outfit that might let a few goals in but would score more from open play. its been hard for KP to show us the type of team he wants to turn us into.


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 Post subject: Re: Aldershot Predictions
PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:03 pm 
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thebigdog wrote:
Snowy wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
RichyHpool wrote:
if i was an aldershot fan i,d be thinking how the hell did we lose that far more than i thought how didn,t we beat rochdale a few days previously. wins can disguise problems far more than defeats do.

Saw the post match interview from what I assume was a coach for Aldershot who applauded their play, but……they(Pools) scored two goals we didn’t …was how he summed it up.
Let’s be brutal, if we’d battered a side and got beat 2-0 we’d get pelters in their position, no one says ‘tough luck’…because in all honesty, points mean prizes, not performances.


Give it a rest will you, christ. Points mean prizes :laugh: in our situation, I can confirm, they do not. We shitfested a 2-0 win, played terribly but will take my hat off to 3 clean sheets at home on the bounce as that is a good record. Performances I’m afraid do matter and Aldershot are a better, more dynamic and exciting team than the current Hartlepool incumbent. If the same team started next season they would still be perennial losers. Time for change. And all 3 midfielders need scrapping.

I long for the day you just agree with someone rather than being an utter nuisance at all times. Maybe take a day off the internet pal, it’s clearly not for you. :character-smurfguy:


It depends on what people see as prizes does it not. Not so long ago it was mathematically possible for us to make the play offs and maybe go up. BUT BUT BUT it was also mathematically possible for us to go down AND AND AND it was also possible that neither of those possibilities would occur and we would stay where we are. Putting a description on those three possibilities we would possibly say that winning the play offs would be the big prize and being relegated a disaster but a smaller prize of safety was achieved. Some would say the sigh of relief was a big prize. Another prize yesterday was achieved when we had our third home clean sheet in a row, after spending nearly a full season with a miserable experience of clean sheets. Another prize yesterday was the fact that four players from our youth set up where on the pitch together, Grey, Stephenson, Steele and Darcy.
Prizes come in different shapes and sizes and are the subject of perception.

Now to your personal comments to Snowy.


You suggest he should take time off from the bunker but I disagree because he is one of our entertainers, whereas you are not. If I had to choose between your presence on here and that of Snowy's, you would lose hands down.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones nor should they be suggesting who should post and who should have a rest.

That's all.

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 Post subject: Re: Aldershot Predictions
PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:29 pm 
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I'll take points over performances every day if the week. Ideally points and performances would be the order of the day but given the resources we have available presently we can't have everything, and let's not forget 2 months we couldn't get points or put on a performance so we're slowly improving aren't we? Hopefully come the summer we'll bring in some better players to give us more of the ideal. Having said that, the successful teams in this division are generally the best organised rather than the best to watch.


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 Post subject: Re: Aldershot Predictions
PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:43 pm 
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I'll take points over performances every day if the week. Ideally points and performances would be the order of the day but given the resources we have available presently we can't have everything, and let's not forget 2 months we couldn't get points or put on a performance so we're slowly improving aren't we? Hopefully come the summer we'll bring in some better players to give us more of the ideal. Having said that, the successful teams in this division are generally the best organised rather than the best to watch.

you can pick and mix to suit your arguement about promoted teams. stockport, wrexham, notts county and now chesterfield could hardly be described as just functioning sides and neither w were when we got promoted. you need organisation but much more than that to secure a promotion. pointless just having 3 clean sheets at home without a single goal being scored from open play or a keeper having a match of the season against us. suppose its what the individual fan wants from a game in the end.


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 Post subject: Re: Aldershot Predictions
PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:46 pm 
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derwent wrote:
thebigdog wrote:
Snowy wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
RichyHpool wrote:
if i was an aldershot fan i,d be thinking how the hell did we lose that far more than i thought how didn,t we beat rochdale a few days previously. wins can disguise problems far more than defeats do.

Saw the post match interview from what I assume was a coach for Aldershot who applauded their play, but……they(Pools) scored two goals we didn’t …was how he summed it up.
Let’s be brutal, if we’d battered a side and got beat 2-0 we’d get pelters in their position, no one says ‘tough luck’…because in all honesty, points mean prizes, not performances.


Give it a rest will you, christ. Points mean prizes :laugh: in our situation, I can confirm, they do not. We shitfested a 2-0 win, played terribly but will take my hat off to 3 clean sheets at home on the bounce as that is a good record. Performances I’m afraid do matter and Aldershot are a better, more dynamic and exciting team than the current Hartlepool incumbent. If the same team started next season they would still be perennial losers. Time for change. And all 3 midfielders need scrapping.

I long for the day you just agree with someone rather than being an utter nuisance at all times. Maybe take a day off the internet pal, it’s clearly not for you. :character-smurfguy:


It depends on what people see as prizes does it not. Not so long ago it was mathematically possible for us to make the play offs and maybe go up. BUT BUT BUT it was also mathematically possible for us to go down AND AND AND it was also possible that neither of those possibilities would occur and we would stay where we are. Putting a description on those three possibilities we would possibly say that winning the play offs would be the big prize and being relegated a disaster but a smaller prize of safety was achieved. Some would say the sigh of relief was a big prize. Another prize yesterday was achieved when we had our third home clean sheet in a row, after spending nearly a full season with a miserable experience of clean sheets. Another prize yesterday was the fact that four players from our youth set up where on the pitch together, Grey, Stephenson, Steele and Darcy.
Prizes come in different shapes and sizes and are the subject of perception.

Now to your personal comments to Snowy.


You suggest he should take time off from the bunker but I disagree because he is one of our entertainers, whereas you are not. If I had to choose between your presence on here and that of Snowy's, you would lose hands down.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones nor should they be suggesting who should post and who should have a rest.

That's all.



Totally agree yet again Derwent :wink:


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I am glad i am on holiday next week and will not be going to the game. My enthusiasm has waned.

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RichyHpool wrote:
It's nice to win but it was a frustrating watch in the second half, we need players who take the game to the opposition.


I felt the wind was harder to play with than against, the balls holding up in the air were hard to defend against, conditions made the game what it ways but we got stuck in kept a clean sheet and looked solid apart
From 10mins after half time so no big complaints from me overall


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thebigdog wrote:
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accrington fan wrote:
RichyHpool wrote:
if i was an aldershot fan i,d be thinking how the hell did we lose that far more than i thought how didn,t we beat rochdale a few days previously. wins can disguise problems far more than defeats do.

Saw the post match interview from what I assume was a coach for Aldershot who applauded their play, but……they(Pools) scored two goals we didn’t …was how he summed it up.
Let’s be brutal, if we’d battered a side and got beat 2-0 we’d get pelters in their position, no one says ‘tough luck’…because in all honesty, points mean prizes, not performances.


Give it a rest will you, christ. Points mean prizes :laugh: in our situation, I can confirm, they do not. We shitfested a 2-0 win, played terribly but will take my hat off to 3 clean sheets at home on the bounce as that is a good record. Performances I’m afraid do matter and Aldershot are a better, more dynamic and exciting team than the current Hartlepool incumbent. If the same team started next season they would still be perennial losers. Time for change. And all 3 midfielders need scrapping.

I long for the day you just agree with someone rather than being an utter nuisance at all times. Maybe take a day off the internet pal, it’s clearly not for you. :character-smurfguy:


Midfield is key, Cooke, feather and Crawford are all not good enough
And they make each other worse when played together….at a (big) push od keep Crawford as back up ,,,, tho he would likely end up starting
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I am glad i am on holiday next week and will not be going to the game. My enthusiasm has waned.

Tablets are available on prescription….Oops sorry, Imthought you meant something else had ‘waned’…. :laugh:

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thebigdog wrote:
Snowy wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
RichyHpool wrote:
if i was an aldershot fan i,d be thinking how the hell did we lose that far more than i thought how didn,t we beat rochdale a few days previously. wins can disguise problems far more than defeats do.

Saw the post match interview from what I assume was a coach for Aldershot who applauded their play, but……they(Pools) scored two goals we didn’t …was how he summed it up.
Let’s be brutal, if we’d battered a side and got beat 2-0 we’d get pelters in their position, no one says ‘tough luck’…because in all honesty, points mean prizes, not performances.


Give it a rest will you, christ. Points mean prizes :laugh: in our situation, I can confirm, they do not. We shitfested a 2-0 win, played terribly but will take my hat off to 3 clean sheets at home on the bounce as that is a good record. Performances I’m afraid do matter and Aldershot are a better, more dynamic and exciting team than the current Hartlepool incumbent. If the same team started next season they would still be perennial losers. Time for change. And all 3 midfielders need scrapping.

I long for the day you just agree with someone rather than being an utter nuisance at all times. Maybe take a day off the internet pal, it’s clearly not for you. :character-smurfguy:

You mean agree with you. I understand you can’t cope with those who don’t agree with you, but it just washes over me, try it.
I am in trauma though, you’ve actually turned up after a win, there’s one for the record books. :laugh:

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loyal_fan wrote:
RichyHpool wrote:
It's nice to win but it was a frustrating watch in the second half, we need players who take the game to the opposition.


I felt the wind was harder to play with than against, the balls holding up in the air were hard to defend against, conditions made the game what it ways but we got stuck in kept a clean sheet and looked solid apart
From 10mins after half time so no big complaints from me overall

People always assume the wind behind you is an advantage, it never is as you just end up chasing the ball…. :laugh:

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Snowy wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
RichyHpool wrote:
It's nice to win but it was a frustrating watch in the second half, we need players who take the game to the opposition.


I felt the wind was harder to play with than against, the balls holding up in the air were hard to defend against, conditions made the game what it ways but we got stuck in kept a clean sheet and looked solid apart
From 10mins after half time so no big complaints from me overall

People always assume the wind behind you is an advantage, it never is as you just end up chasing the ball…. :laugh:

its an advantage if you are having a shot at goal. why did jameson also seemed to kick the ball as high as he could instead of keeping it as low as possible.


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Think we need to accept that until the midfield is sorted out we're not going to be playing entertaining football.


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Not living in town no more I don't get to many home games but made the effort to travel over for Saturday and have to 100% agree with PID and Loyal fan about Pools midfield, their combined work ethic was shown up by the young teenage right back Stephenson who quite often was looking for help only to see the midfield missing, I was at the Fylde game where you could have thrown a handkerchief over the midfield who continually left both full backs isolated all game.


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accrington fan wrote:
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RichyHpool wrote:
It's nice to win but it was a frustrating watch in the second half, we need players who take the game to the opposition.


I felt the wind was harder to play with than against, the balls holding up in the air were hard to defend against, conditions made the game what it ways but we got stuck in kept a clean sheet and looked solid apart
From 10mins after half time so no big complaints from me overall

People always assume the wind behind you is an advantage, it never is as you just end up chasing the ball…. :laugh:

its an advantage if you are having a shot at goal. why did jameson also seemed to kick the ball as high as he could instead of keeping it as low as possible.

Not necessarily, depends one how hard the wind is blowing and the direction.

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I suppose one could argue that good teams find a way to win even without playing well. Lol.


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It was a good win whatever, against a team with playoff aspirations. Just shows that this league isn't that clever. The chopping and changing of managers, multiple crap loan signs and lack of an overall strategy have done for us over recent seasons.

I guess my question is, who is the person who is going to take the club by the scruff of the neck and give it direction and focus, especially now Raj claims to be taking a back seat?


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It was a good win whatever, against a team with playoff aspirations. Just shows that this league isn't that clever. The chopping and changing of managers, multiple crap loan signs and lack of an overall strategy have done for us over recent seasons.

I guess my question is, who is the person who is going to take the club by the scruff of the neck and give it direction and focus, especially now Raj claims to be taking a back seat?

It’s down to getting key players in to replace the dross we’ve had grazing for the past two years.

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