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 Post subject: Umerah needs an operation
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:23 pm 
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Josh wont play again this season because he needs an operation according to an article in The Mail. So I was wondering what happens with his contract because it is up at the end of the season. After all, he has hardly been in the shop window this season and after the injury, you wonder if any half decent team would offer him what he wants. So, will he sign for us again and work with a former top level striker in KP or walk away and sign for the likes of Kings Lyn?


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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:25 pm 
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We should let him go, dont see him playing in a 2 with Mani D and too expensive to be sat on bench and wouldnt like it anyway--nothing against him, and hope he gets a decent move.


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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:26 pm 
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Pools have the option of a years extension on Umerah’s contract.


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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:32 pm 
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Poolie24 wrote:
Pools have the option of a years extension on Umerah’s contract.



which we should decline IMO


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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:16 pm 
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Time to go…..I see no future for him here anymore.

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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
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We paid an undisclosed transfer fee for him so it would be good if we could get some of it back in a transfer fee if we do have an option on his contract. Also, he might be a bit more inclined to play under KP than he was for JA. What if Manni D gets injured? Dufus has shown he isnt a viable replacement.


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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
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We messed up big style turning down them offers when he clearly didn't want to stay at Pools.
Now he has to be binned with all of the out ov contract players.


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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
We paid an undisclosed transfer fee for him so it would be good if we could get some of it back in a transfer fee if we do have an option on his contract. Also, he might be a bit more inclined to play under KP than he was for JA. What if Manni D gets injured? Dufus has shown he isnt a viable replacement.


He ain't sellable
Bye Bye.


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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
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loyal_fan wrote:
We should let him go, dont see him playing in a 2 with Mani D and too expensive to be sat on bench and wouldnt like it anyway--nothing against him, and hope he gets a decent move.


Loyal are you slowly becoming a " real loyal fan." :laugh: I 100% agree with everything you said this time. clappp


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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
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Let’s be honest, towards the end of last season he appeared to go into a big girl’s strop and didn’t even go through the motions….the change was bleedin obvious.
As far as I can see this lethargic behaviour has continued for nearly a year.
Some hoped the player we used to know would snap out of it but even the most optimistic must have twigged on by now.
If someone’s heart isn’t in fighting for their place in the team, it’s goodnight Vienna from me and move on.

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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:42 am 
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Snowy wrote:
Let’s be honest, towards the end of last season he appeared to go into a big girl’s strop and didn’t even go through the motions….the change was bleedin obvious.
As far as I can see this lethargic behaviour has continued for nearly a year.
Some hoped the player we used to know would snap out of it but even the most optimistic must have twigged on by now.
If someone’s heart isn’t in fighting for their place in the team, it’s goodnight Vienna from me and move on.


And then that bad attitude filters into the rest of the team. You can only carry people for so long in the workplace then the shit hits the fan.

Good job we had a decent start to the season 15 pts from 1st 7games.
Major clear out got to happen.
UTP.


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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
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after he dried up early 2023 he hasn,t done much to get a regular place in the side and must be picking up a decent screw. know all strikers go through a lean patch but not one for a season. sad really as i liked the lad back in the days when he was a goalscorer but at the moment he,s not worth bothering about. just wonder though due to his op pools might offer him a short term contract till when he might be fit again as the op he needs happened when he was playing for us.


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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Let’s be honest, towards the end of last season he appeared to go into a big girl’s strop and didn’t even go through the motions….the change was bleedin obvious.

Good job we had a decent start to the season 15 pts from 1st 7games.
Major clear out got to happen.
UTP.


Yes basically 33 points from 31 games since which is relegation form, we've been very unlucky with injuries as we all know but our woeful strength in depth has been cruelly exposed all season.

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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
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Surely not another gamble with an injured player. KPG reckons we messed up not selling him can just imagine the protesters saying lack of ambition selling our best players.


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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Let’s be honest, towards the end of last season he appeared to go into a big girl’s strop and didn’t even go through the motions….the change was bleedin obvious.

Good job we had a decent start to the season 15 pts from 1st 7games.
Major clear out got to happen.
UTP.


Yes basically 33 points from 31 games since which is relegation form, we've been very unlucky with injuries as we all know but our woeful strength in depth has been cruelly exposed all season.

They’d have had more strength in depth and ‘bite’ if Raj had given Ratboy and Ruby a six month contract…mind you their disciplinary record could prove troublesome. bbolt

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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
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Johnjo1 wrote:
Surely not another gamble with an injured player. KPG reckons we messed up not selling him can just imagine the protesters saying lack of ambition selling our best players.

at times pools cannot just win whatever they do. keep him and he is sure to break down again. let him go we all know he,ll come back to haunt us.


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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
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Johnjo1 wrote:
Surely not another gamble with an injured player. KPG reckons we messed up not selling him can just imagine the protesters saying lack of ambition selling our best players.


There is no way he could have been sold during the transfer window of our last season in the FL. At the time we still had a chance of staving off relegation and Umerah was our only decent goal scorer. Of course we went down anyway but this was by no means certain in January last year. Imagine the vitreol aimed at Raj if Umerah sold and we got relegated. People would be saying we wouldnt have got relegated if Umerah had not been sold.


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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Johnjo1 wrote:
Surely not another gamble with an injured player. KPG reckons we messed up not selling him can just imagine the protesters saying lack of ambition selling our best players.


There is no way he could have been sold during the transfer window of our last season in the FL. At the time we still had a chance of staving off relegation and Umerah was our only decent goal scorer. Of course we went down anyway but this was by no means certain in January last year. Imagine the vitreol aimed at Raj if Umerah sold and we got relegated. People would be saying we wouldnt have got relegated if Umerah had not been sold.

Good point, even though the first signs were there, it was a no win scenario.

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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
We paid an undisclosed transfer fee for him so it would be good if we could get some of it back in a transfer fee if we do have an option on his contract. Also, he might be a bit more inclined to play under KP than he was for JA. What if Manni D gets injured? Dufus has shown he isnt a viable replacement.


Askey hated Mo Sylla with a passion because of his bad attitude, but I don't recall him ever suggesting he had a problem with Josh. Personally I think Umerah is a confidence player who lost his way when the goals dried up. This season he couldn't form an effective partnership with Mani D - they're both big lads who aren't particularly quick.

Feel sorry for the way Josh's season has turned out, but I expect him to be released in the summer. If Mani stays KP will be looking for someone who complements Mani's style of play better - in an ideal world we get a 'little and large' act like Quinn and Phillips!

If Mani is sold it's back to square one, but there are still much better options out there than Josh on the form he's shown in the past 12 months. Maybe he'll get himself fixed up with Wealdstone again?


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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
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Leggie43 wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
We should let him go, dont see him playing in a 2 with Mani D and too expensive to be sat on bench and wouldnt like it anyway--nothing against him, and hope he gets a decent move.


Loyal are you slowly becoming a " real loyal fan." :laugh: I 100% agree with everything you said this time. clappp



I will have to edit it!


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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
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Snowy wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Johnjo1 wrote:
Surely not another gamble with an injured player. KPG reckons we messed up not selling him can just imagine the protesters saying lack of ambition selling our best players.


There is no way he could have been sold during the transfer window of our last season in the FL. At the time we still had a chance of staving off relegation and Umerah was our only decent goal scorer. Of course we went down anyway but this was by no means certain in January last year. Imagine the vitreol aimed at Raj if Umerah sold and we got relegated. People would be saying we wouldnt have got relegated if Umerah had not been sold.

Good point, even though the first signs were there, it was a no win scenario.


Exactly. We all knew relegation was a very strong possibity but there was still hope which would have been expunged had Umerah been sold.


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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
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[quote="Flying Hogans"][

Askey hated Mo Sylla with a passion because of his bad attitude, but I don't recall him ever suggesting he had a problem with Josh. Personally I think Umerah is a confidence player who lost his way when the goals dried up. This season he couldn't form an effective partnership with Mani D - they're both big lads who aren't particularly quick.

its the position he plays in where its the goals he scores give him and others confidence. its like keepers with their clean sheets. would love to know the real reason why that askey and sylla fall out came about. its not as if sylla hid in any game he id play. he,d have been great in this league we are playing in but could have got more cautions than crawford but would not have bothered me one bit.


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would love to know the real reason why that askey and sylla fall out came about. its not as if sylla hid in any game he id play. he,d have been great in this league we are playing in but could have got more cautions than crawford but would not have bothered me one bit.


Didn't Sylla's agent tell him that he wouldn't play for Pools again unless the club gave up the option of another year that was in the contact he'd signed? Most people react badly to blackmail.


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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
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loyal_fan wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
We should let him go, dont see him playing in a 2 with Mani D and too expensive to be sat on bench and wouldnt like it anyway--nothing against him, and hope he gets a decent move.


Loyal are you slowly becoming a " real loyal fan." :laugh: I 100% agree with everything you said this time. clappp



I will have to edit it!


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 Post subject: Re: Umerah needs an operation
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Flying Hogans wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
would love to know the real reason why that askey and sylla fall out came about. its not as if sylla hid in any game he id play. he,d have been great in this league we are playing in but could have got more cautions than crawford but would not have bothered me one bit.


Didn't Sylla's agent tell him that he wouldn't play for Pools again unless the club gave up the option of another year that was in the contact he'd signed? Most people react badly to blackmail.

thats a third party speaking and not sylla himself and none of us if that was the truth anyway. thing is we,ll never find out what is the whole truth as we,re fans, the mugs that pay to watch a game in total secrecy in whats going on.


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