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 Post subject: This Rochdale MP carry on
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:55 am 
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Looks like a cock up, but what puzzles me is…are the electorate of Rochdale all Muslim, because that’s the impression you get from the reports.

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Shows how this country has changed from being a bastion for free speech and politicians representing the people. Nowadays it's all woke speak only and party above all in politics.
The guy will stand as an independent now and the people will decide, mind what a choice eh - this fella, an ex Labour politician who was thrown out over sex allegations, the ex Labour George Galloway, among the candidates - pro ably best to go with the monster raving lunatic, at least he's upfront about what he is and what he stands for.


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its a case of some politician not following the party line and rubber stamping what those at the top want and want to hear. its not about whether you agree with what he said or not is irreleventbut being told not to have a point of view in not acceptable. if i lived in the area i,d vote for this guy on the principle and rather have someone with some opinions than just ones the top brass want you to have.


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It's also the fact that anyone who voices an opinion that criticises Israel in any way is labelled antisemitic, similarly race, trans, viewpoints. All non woke opinions are tagged as offensive at best and worthy of jail time at worst.


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George Galloway is standing, going round canvassing wearing a PLO scarf, that should secure a few votes for him ?


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They’re just gonna polarise the votes.

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It's also the fact that anyone who voices an opinion that criticises Israel in any way is labelled antisemitic, similarly race, trans, viewpoints. All non woke opinions are tagged as offensive at best and worthy of jail time at worst.

the state of israel more or less got a free pass for years because anyone who did were lablelled as anti semitic or a holocaust denier. its just now its gone from one extream to another and that country should have been called out in the past like others are.


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Looks like a cock up, but what puzzles me is…are the electorate of Rochdale all Muslim, because that’s the impression you get from the reports.



Pretty much. I think there’s something in the Quran about the towns off the M62 being holy places. It also mentions taxis.


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its a case of some politician not following the party line and rubber stamping what those at the top want and want to hear. its not about whether you agree with what he said or not is irreleventbut being told not to have a point of view in not acceptable. if i lived in the area i,d vote for this guy on the principle and rather have someone with some opinions than just ones the top brass want you to have.

But he is following the ‘Party line’, it’s another ‘Party’ just as rigid as any political Party if not more so….it just isn’t the Labour Party line.

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What is the Labour Party line today? Sure as shit it'll have changed by tomorrow.


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Starmer is losing the Muslim vote across many towns which may cause the Labour Party to lose a few seats at the next General Election.

Most likely the only way to remove Sunak & Co. will be to vote Labour but I'm not too sure I want Starmer as PM.


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Starmer is losing the Muslim vote across many towns which may cause the Labour Party to lose a few seats at the next General Election.

Most likely the only way to remove Sunak & Co. will be to vote Labour but I'm not too sure I want Starmer as PM.

they,ll lose the muslim vote but will not get non muslims to take their place. the rochdale result will be very interesting and a bad day for labour might need them to re think. they were odds on to win the next election but the way they are going with starmer changing his mind by the hour they seem to be doing their best to lose what lead they have got. thing is as individuals who are real alternatives to sunak and starmer in either party.


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Just shows what a shit show British politics is at the moment.
A useless government that quite often changes its mind, a labour party led by a man who ditched all his leadership pledges as soon as he got the job and who wont put a price on any of his policies, other than the green investment he has now dropped.
Then you look at Wales and Scotland and both ruling parties are a bunch of clowns or corrupt, or both!
I feel sorry for our local MP as he's been the best one we have had in ages but he will probably lose his seat as he's a tory!


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PTID wrote:
What is the Labour Party line today? Sure as shit it'll have changed by tomorrow.

The Labour Party line is as follows….

If you disapprove of our policies, let us know what they should be.
But if you change your mind, we will too, to accommodate your vote.


The Labour Party are like a mother of triplets who listens to the triplet who cries loudest……so attention may switch at short notice to suit the biggest voice.

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Snowy wrote:
PTID wrote:
What is the Labour Party line today? Sure as shit it'll have changed by tomorrow.

The Labour Party line is as follows….

If you disapprove of our policies, let us know what they should be.
But if you change your mind, we will too, to accommodate your vote.


The Labour Party are like a mother of triplets who listens to the triplet who cries loudest……so attention may switch at short notice to suit the biggest voice.


I cant help feeling a tiny bit sorry for Starmer (not too much mind), all he had to do was keep quiet and let the Tories destroy themselves and he's pretty much guaranteed to lead the next government. Then what happens? His own by election candidates causes a media frenzy so he has to get of his backside and say something.


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Snowy wrote:
PTID wrote:
What is the Labour Party line today? Sure as shit it'll have changed by tomorrow.

The Labour Party line is as follows….

If you disapprove of our policies, let us know what they should be.
But if you change your mind, we will too, to accommodate your vote.


The Labour Party are like a mother of triplets who listens to the triplet who cries loudest……so attention may switch at short notice to suit the biggest voice.


I cant help feeling a tiny bit sorry for Starmer (not too much mind), all he had to do was keep quiet and let the Tories destroy themselves and he's pretty much guaranteed to lead the next government. Then what happens? His own by election candidates causes a media frenzy so he has to get of his backside and say something.

Exactly….stick to the script and once the elections over and it dawns on the electorate what they’ve done it’s too late, you’re in power.
Then the trouble begins as he tries to stop all his semi house trained new intake from wandering from the script.
It could be fun, for the average bystander. :laugh:

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Remember, the mayor of nearby Blackburn announced that the way to sort the Gaza problem was to send in the Pakistani army!


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Remember when MP’s used to promise to sort out the local hospital or ask or a new by-pass….are some of these MP’s in North West Lancashire or the North West bloody Frontier….?

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Brian Honour's Left Foot wrote:
Remember, the mayor of nearby Blackburn announced that the way to sort the Gaza problem was to send in the Pakistani army!

think something has actually happened in blackburn with their labour candidate like the rochdale situation. only heard the end of it on the news. blackburn and rochdale have one thing in common, a large muslim presence in the towns. funny how they are more interested in affairs thousands of miles away and not local issues especially if they intend staying here for life. for me whats happening in gaza is well down the list of what i want from any party in the next general election or any political foreign policies unless they affect me.


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Snowy wrote:
Looks like a cock up, but what puzzles me is…are the electorate of Rochdale all Muslim, because that’s the impression you get from the reports.


Rochdale has a population of 220000 38% are Muslim, the turnout for the by election was 37%, if the Gaza Israeli conflict hadn’t been going on would Galloway have been elected, I doubt it.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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Looks like a cock up, but what puzzles me is…are the electorate of Rochdale all Muslim, because that’s the impression you get from the reports.


Rochdale has a population of 220000 38% are Muslim, the turnout for the by election was 37%, if the Gaza Israeli conflict hadn’t been going on would Galloway have been elected, I doubt it.

They are organising themselves.

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Jamie1952 wrote:
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Looks like a cock up, but what puzzles me is…are the electorate of Rochdale all Muslim, because that’s the impression you get from the reports.


Rochdale has a population of 220000 38% are Muslim, the turnout for the by election was 37%, if the Gaza Israeli conflict hadn’t been going on would Galloway have been elected, I doubt it.

israel have had numerous wars and skirmishers since the day it was created but has never until now had a say in british politics. there have been many muslims in the east lancs and yorkshire mill towns for 60 years or more so why have things like this turned into a big issue. give any minority an inch and they,ll take a mile instead of treating them with respect only and not make them above the majority. we had the red wall 5 years back will we get a muslim wall this time around.


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Looks like a cock up, but what puzzles me is…are the electorate of Rochdale all Muslim, because that’s the impression you get from the reports.


Rochdale has a population of 220000 38% are Muslim, the turnout for the by election was 37%, if the Gaza Israeli conflict hadn’t been going on would Galloway have been elected, I doubt it.

israel have had numerous wars and skirmishers since the day it was created but has never until now had a say in british politics. there have been many muslims in the east lancs and yorkshire mill towns for 60 years or more so why have things like this turned into a big issue. give any minority an inch and they,ll take a mile instead of treating them with respect only and not make them above the majority. we had the red wall 5 years back will we get a muslim wall this time around.


If we don't get a Muslim wall this time, how long will it be before we do get one because as sure is eggs is eggs it's gonna happen. When it does and the Country is operated under Sharia Law there will be a belated cacophony of screams especially from the Women. Then the people who laugh and deride the notion now will be laughing on the other side of their collective faces.

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If we don't get a Muslim wall this time, how long will it be before we do get one because as sure is eggs is eggs it's gonna happen. When it does and the Country is operated under Sharia Law there will be a belated cacophony of screams especially from the Women. Then the people who laugh and deride the notion now will be laughing on the other side of their collective faces.

what are the non muslims who accuse other non muslims of islamaphobia if they do not follow their take on it when it affects there other pet projects like LGBT plus stuff and womens total equality that the muslims are dead against. they cannot have things all their way and will shortly have to make a serious choice.


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derwent wrote:
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If we don't get a Muslim wall this time, how long will it be before we do get one because as sure is eggs is eggs it's gonna happen. When it does and the Country is operated under Sharia Law there will be a belated cacophony of screams especially from the Women. Then the people who laugh and deride the notion now will be laughing on the other side of their collective faces.

what are the non muslims who accuse other non muslims of islamaphobia if they do not follow their take on it when it affects there other pet projects like LGBT plus stuff and womens total equality that the muslims are dead against. they cannot have things all their way and will shortly have to make a serious choice.


When Sharia Law takes over we will have two choices, accept it or accept the consequences.
TIME TO WAKE UP FOLKS.

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derwent wrote:
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If we don't get a Muslim wall this time, how long will it be before we do get one because as sure is eggs is eggs it's gonna happen. When it does and the Country is operated under Sharia Law there will be a belated cacophony of screams especially from the Women. Then the people who laugh and deride the notion now will be laughing on the other side of their collective faces.

what are the non muslims who accuse other non muslims of islamaphobia if they do not follow their take on it when it affects there other pet projects like LGBT plus stuff and womens total equality that the muslims are dead against. they cannot have things all their way and will shortly have to make a serious choice.


When Sharia Law takes over we will have two choices, accept it or accept the consequences.
TIME TO WAKE UP FOLKS.

the majority of us have not been sleeping its our rulers and the woke who are sleepwalking to disaster bringing us all down with them. afraid the majority will soon have to do more than put a X in a box to save the life we want. minorities have always had one big thing in their favour, they stick together.


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derwent wrote:
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derwent wrote:
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If we don't get a Muslim wall this time, how long will it be before we do get one because as sure is eggs is eggs it's gonna happen. When it does and the Country is operated under Sharia Law there will be a belated cacophony of screams especially from the Women. Then the people who laugh and deride the notion now will be laughing on the other side of their collective faces.

what are the non muslims who accuse other non muslims of islamaphobia if they do not follow their take on it when it affects there other pet projects like LGBT plus stuff and womens total equality that the muslims are dead against. they cannot have things all their way and will shortly have to make a serious choice.


When Sharia Law takes over we will have two choices, accept it or accept the consequences.
TIME TO WAKE UP FOLKS.


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