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the newcastle supporters in their treatment to Mido the other day regarding him being a terrorist, something should be done about this mindless idiotic chanting from a small section of the croud, this will only result in them hurting the club they support and annoy the "true" suppporters of the club.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 966707.stm

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 Post subject: Re: shocking from the skunks
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:04 pm 
Nothing against what you're saying there Mr Abingdon.

I just wonder why the word 'mindless' only applies to football crowds. I mean it takes a fair amount of nous to earn enough money, buy your shirt, get to the pub and then pay through the nose for Premiership football, daft as all those things might seem.

Do they check their brains in at the gate?? :uhoh: :uhoh: confised confised


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the newcastle supporters in their treatment to Mido the other day regarding him being a terrorist, something should be done about this mindless idiotic chanting from a small section of the croud, this will only result in them hurting the club they support and annoy the "true" suppporters of the club.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 966707.stm


I've read some toss on message boards over the years, but this post takes the biscuit.

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the newcastle supporters in their treatment to Mido the other day regarding him being a terrorist, something should be done about this mindless idiotic chanting from a small section of the croud, this will only result in them hurting the club they support and annoy the "true" suppporters of the club.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 966707.stm

As long as I can remember some supporters have always went for the jugular to upset a player when it comes to goading and they seem to have no boundaries.... does it work? does it put the player of his game? I don't know...I'm just surprised you're surprised.

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I hope Lee Hughes gets a run out on Saturday.

Probably best if Abingdon stays at home though cos we don't want the poor bairn to get upset.

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 Post subject: Re: shocking from the skunks
PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:42 am 
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Right Abington.....read this and see if it changes your blinkered BBC view:

Oh, and lets get this straight, this is not the opionion of adg(Just for the thick bounders amongst you)

Right here goes:

With Mike Ashley's appearance on Sunday providing a visible riposte to reports of him selling the club for a quick profit, those same journalists unfortunately didn't have far to look for their next Toon-related headlining-making target.
Clearly audible chants from the travelling Toon fans directed at home fans and Boro striker Mido visibly wound the player up and provoked an outbreak of gesturing as he confronted the away section after scoring.
As well as reporting on the game, press box occupants were kept busy deciphering the chants, before suppressing grins and then penning their outraged missives.

While some reports correctly labelled the chanting as "distasteful" (The Mail), other more hysterical writers donned their UN peace keeping body armour before reporting on:
"vile and ignorant Islamophobic abuse.... stereotyped as a terrorist bomber in a barrage of anti-Arab abuse" (Guardian)

Post-match comments of Mido on Sunday:

“I just think it’s ridiculous. They were taking the p*ss. Maybe some of them were drunk or something. I heard it, it was very clear and I understood what they were saying.
“The chants made me want to score more goals. I was delighted to score and I wanted another.
“I am used to it from opposition fans - but I was really frustrated when the referee gave me a yellow card.
“I don’t understand why I got booked. I was told it was for security reasons but I don’t see how that’s possible. I don’t see what I did which would affect the security of the fans.

"I just put my finger to my mouth to say ‘quiet’. But I suppose that’s football and you have to get on with it.”

Taking the p*ss eh? whatever next?

RE: the hand signals though - that's the player lying and the press box occupants either unable or unwilling to see what went on before them live or on the video playback. Just report the facts that fit eh?

3,000 people behind the goal though will tell them exactly which Olde English gesture Mido revealed on two occasions - whether it gets "officially" reported or not.

But in the words of Catherine Tate - are we bothered? Can anybody explain what difference any of this made?

Did we rush to find a constable and report our righteous indignation? did we f**k - we just gave Mido back what he gave us and thought no more about it.

It certainly didn't stir up the locals (those that bothered to turn up at all), the post-match mood echoing that of the pre-game buildup in being less and less threatening year on year.

And it's a bit rich for football writers to suddenly start becoming outraged at the utterances of the Newcastle fans on Teesside.

Variants of the unsavoury child abuse anthems that are trotted out annually were first heard back at Ayresome Park - talk of "paedo's" isn't new, even if rhyming it with Mido was.

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kiddy fiddling jibes = OK
terrorist talk = bang out of order

Did those same writers and those same papers embark on a sizeist crusade after those same travelling fans sang songs about Sammy Lee being a dwarf two weeks ago? No.

Mentions of hung monkeys, sex with flocks and floods could be heard in our pre-season away games, while countless examples litter our back pages - foot and mouth, throwing petrol bombs at Londoners etc.

It's called terrace humour - it's cruel, bawdy, coarse, always offensive to someone and often not funny.
It's got nothing to do with people in £300 coats making shapes in the street or chucking darts at each other - it's just football, along with people drinking to excess, crap toilets and the bloke next to you smelling like he's not washed his strip since he bought it.

Go anywhere else and you'll hear the variations on familiar themes - scummers, Munichs, Yiddos, whatever.

Mido was baited as opposition players have been since the game began - Frank Worthington, David Speedie, Dennis Wise anyone? - and he reacted, as he has done previously.

We're not suggesting everyone shouting "Mido, he's got a bomb you know" or "he's gonna blow in a minute" was aware that the player was once banned for six months by his country for kicking off with his coach at pitchside.

What a few more people are aware of though is that the bloke seems to have a sizeable ego, previously told journalists he'd signed for us when he hadn't and often seems "excitable" when seen live and on TV.

In short, perfect wind-up fodder - just like Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink was here previously - when christened "Fat Eddie Murphy".

And what about the gentleman who scored our second goal? One-time "fat Aussie bastard" when at Boro and Leeds, now a canny lad.

Double standards? of course. Infantile? undoubtedly. Humorous? sometimes.

In reality it's all regrettable and avoidable and makes us look like a bunch of clowns, but that's just our opinion - where does one draw the line - and who draws it? Who defines what is religious or sectarian abuse and just exactly how do you police it?

When people with learning difficulties are being kicked to death twenty minutes up the road from here and children shot in the head at the other end of the M62, forgive us if we find it hard to get really worked up about any of this frankly juvenile cobblers.

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 Post subject: Re: shocking from the skunks
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Quality Mr ADG, quality.

Too many folk up their own backside nowadays that want to find something to complain about.

I hope Abingdon didn't go last night, otherwise we'll be flooded with complaints from him regarding us taking the Michael out of their city being under water recently.

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Dock them 15 points,then dock them 15 more.
Nowt to do with any of this,I just think it would be a good laugh taking points off the skunks.

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i just dont get why i am getting the back lash here i was meerly saying that mocking a person because of his race is a no go, so was it ok for our english black players to get boo'd when playing abroad i think not. was just making a point thats all

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You do realise he never actually denied being a terrorist. :razz:


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I have to say that when I first heard it I laughed,don't know what that says about me,but most of these things are a wind up and like the player says they're taking the p**s.
I know where you are coming from Abingdon and it doesn't read well out of the context of the game but the boro fans are hardly shy with their own chants are they.
Southgate can't pick this one out and ignore the rest.
footie crowds have always gone for the jugular if you get the channce to read the far corner by harry Walter Mitty Shithead there's a great bit about poolies giving players stick

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The Harry Roberts chant was much much more offensive to some quarters.
Does David Hodgson really carry a packet of sweets to go with his cheeky smile?
Darlo chants about Dave Wiggett anyone?


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anyone remember justin fashanu playing at the vic? he took some stick(no pun)

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anyone remember justin fashanu playing at the vic? he took some stick(no pun)


And it was one of the highlights of the season! :grin:

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the best way is always to not react though isn't it. remember gazza when they were throwing mars bars at him? he used to take a bite and laugh with it.
compare that to jason Lee,when skinner and baddiel were having a laugh at his pineapple hair do he threw his toys out of the pram

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Or when bananas were being thrown onto the pitch against Luton at the Vic, and Brian Honour picked one up and offered it to Mark Stein :laugh:

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Abingdon_Poolie wrote:
i just dont get why i am getting the back lash here i was meerly saying that mocking a person because of his race is a no go, so was it ok for our english black players to get boo'd when playing abroad i think not. was just making a point thats all



Too many people on here read what they want and fail to see the point peoplel make. Hence the backlash on you for disagreeing with raciost chanting.

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What was racist about it? sctatchinghead

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Calling someone a terrorist because of the country of birth.

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You are on a windup, yes?

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"Calling someone a terrorist because of the country of birth."

where they calling him that because of the country of birth or because of his religion????


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country of birth or religion, its still racism.

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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
country of birth or religion, its still racism.


Are you sure?

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I construed it as racist.... sctatchinghead


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Mr Ripper wrote:
Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
country of birth or religion, its still racism.


Are you sure?



Well, erm, yeah.

Everyone who chants things like that - directed as TWH says they were, or can be - is thick enough to think that brown skin equates to Islamic suicide bomber. Either way it's racist, out of ignorance or out of stupidity.

Thing was, Mido didn't get many racist chants as much as he did "Mido is a paedo". *shrug*


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:28 pm 
its just footy and the way it is, and writing letters to the FA to cling to the straw that Newcastle will get docked points is just sad.

But racism mustn't be condoned. its like back in the day when it was really prevalant When Saturday Comes tried a campaign that anyone offended by a racist should challenge/confront them there and then....

why didn't offended Boro fans do that??!


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I don't care much for it. It's always the thick contingent that 99% of fans don't associate with. You can't stop people being racist - sadly - but it happens.


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The Racism bandwagon rolls into town.

I actually believe that everyone is racist to one degree or another no matter how much they deny it. Is everyone happy for their daughter to marry a black/asian/muslim/Jock? Well judging by what I see of the MAJORITY of the young black population in Nottingham I certainly would not be.

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Mr Ripper wrote:
Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
country of birth or religion, its still racism.


Are you sure?


Err yes. Are you on drugs or mentally challenged?

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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
Mr Ripper wrote:
Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
country of birth or religion, its still racism.


Are you sure?


Err yes. Are you on drugs or mentally challenged?


:roll:

Racism is prejudice based upon somebody's ethnic origin.

It is not to do with religion.

Religion has just recently been tagged on under the same banner for more publicity.

Am I supposed to retort to the insults now? Lower myself to your level? :roll:

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